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Who’s the person behind Joker?
I personally think Pucci vs Maruki is better
 
Mario is only cosmic because of magic item creating space. Power Stars create starry skies and whatnot. Power Stars grant AP.

Phantom Ruby created space, infinite space. Infinite was amped by it. Sonic beat him, even with help assistance its still a high feat.

Its very similar principal. There are no true cosmic AP feats that Mario should scale to.

And what, Rafael the Raven is unironically Star level? That Team Rocket gag feat bird?

I guess black holes count, but not only are those their own can of worms, but technically Sonic survived one too. I guess Bowser might have survived bigger if you want to have a point.
No, he has several feats on his own at that level. And Power Stars are equipment like the Chaos Emeralds

Infinite had a false copy of the PR. Iirc its not as strong as the real.

There ******* is. He scales to plenty of them.

Okay? Also that's a gag feat but Courage breaking the sun by screaming isn't?

Iirc the black holes Sonic survived are like planet-small star level. Bowser has survived bigger yes.
 
No, he has several feats on his own at that level. And Power Stars are equipment like the Chaos Emeralds

Infinite had a false copy of the PR. Iirc its not as strong as the real.

There ******* is. He scales to plenty of them.

Okay? Also that's a gag feat but Courage breaking the sun by screaming isn't?

Iirc the black holes Sonic survived are like planet-small star level. Bowser has survived bigger yes.
Infinite used the real deal.

Uhh Courage probably is not that. Cartoon shenanigans are another can of worms.

But like besides the whataboutism, feel free to list any solid Mario feats of that caliber.
 
What are you talking about? Mario stats for the time being aren't wanks at all. They're his commonly most accepted stats (well he might get downgraded but that's besides the point). The logic applied to Mario isn't the same for Sonic. They're different series with different functions. Stop calling this shit wank
Off site our Mario profiles are pretty contentious from my experience (most criticisms come from the whole Verse being 4-A off a single Creation Feat, Paper Mario and Mario not being separate, Mario’s Fate Manipulation is complete nonsense from the perspective of outsiders, ect).
 
After looking for a bunch of things, Tier 7 is most reasonable compromise for basic Mario cast. Giant Bowser is ok at Tier 6 and I guess if you are lenient DK might get moon punch.

Sonic without Emerald scaling might be Tier 6 based on CD feat, Death Egg feat(?) and possibly Lost World. Tho the ultimate bare minimum is that Heroes cannon feat, are there calcs for that?

This site already has struggled with getting satisfying Sonic stats from what I have seen, but if I were to downgrade Sonic for some reason, then "At least Tier 6, possibly Tier 5-4" just to be safer on portrayal, just to showcase feats without emeralds and then with them. While there is scaling to Shadow's statement of fully using Emerald's power, I'd gladly downgrade Sonic if it meant Mario got same treatment.

Tho if I recall apparently Emeralds still have even bigger feats for Tier 4 not yet accepted.
 
Off site our Mario profiles are pretty contentious from my experience (most criticisms come from the whole Verse being 4-A off a single Creation Feat, Paper Mario and Mario not being separate, Mario’s Fate Manipulation is complete nonsense from the perspective of outsiders, ect).
I only agree with them saying Mario and Paper Mario being separate due to how different their abilities are. Regardless tho, they scale to each other and are comparable.
 
After looking for a bunch of things, Tier 7 is most reasonable compromise for basic Mario cast. Giant Bowser is ok at Tier 6 and I guess if you are lenient DK might get moon punch.

Sonic without Emerald scaling might be Tier 6 based on CD feat, Death Egg feat(?) and possibly Lost World. Tho the ultimate bare minimum is that Heroes cannon feat, are there calcs for that?

This site already has struggled with getting satisfying Sonic stats from what I have seen, but if I were to downgrade Sonic for some reason, then "At least Tier 6, possibly Tier 5-4" just to be safer on portrayal, just to showcase feats without emeralds and then with them. While there is scaling to Shadow's statement of fully using Emerald's power, I'd gladly downgrade Sonic if it meant Mario got same treatment.

Tho if I recall apparently Emeralds still have even bigger feats for Tier 4 not yet accepted.
Nah. Sonic in base is consistently Planet even without Emerald Scaling iirc and Tier 6-7 Mario is just downplay.
 
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