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Then they'll say he haxes Black and is immeasurable so he couldn't even be touched.
Its DC's speedsters, they will be OP in DB.
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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Its DC's speedsters, they will be OP in DB.
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He can't hax black though. No blitzing the base, remember? And they only gave Wally infinite speed, you really think they'll give Thawne immeasurable?
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Just a question, do we use only the wiki profiles when we talk about who should win in a Death Battle here?
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No, espesially with comics, since our comic profiles are generally considered inaccurate.
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Nice, its far better then lol, but I saw some people that I shouldnt mention the name because it gets very salty that uses the profile ratings
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I made a DB thumbnail with cursed things I saved on my phone
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Yeah, VS is super subjective anyways.
But considering I know Swan would do Black vs RF, RF would win no matter what. But like without Infinite Zamasu he does lose easily.
But considering I know Swan would do Black vs RF, RF would win no matter what. But like without Infinite Zamasu he does lose easily.
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Swan dosn't do every DC vs Non-Marvel match, and they might not give it to him given the negative reception from Ben vs Hal and Archie vs Wally.
Anyways, Zamasu vs Goetia is better regardless.
Anyways, Zamasu vs Goetia is better regardless.
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Swan likes to do big matches and Wally vs Archie had relatively good reception. He will probably do it.
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Also, it's not like Swan picks the winners. If Zamasu wins there's jack shit Swan can do about it.
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Yeah, Swan will research and find that RF wins.
How essential is RF for DB? How many DC characters should be considered a must for show? MM & Harley are big names. There are like 20-30 viable options but who are truly big and needed? Do we need Killer Croc & Scarecrow for Spidey fights?
How essential is RF for DB? How many DC characters should be considered a must for show? MM & Harley are big names. There are like 20-30 viable options but who are truly big and needed? Do we need Killer Croc & Scarecrow for Spidey fights?
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Swan isn't the only researcher on Death Battle. If everyone else disagrees with him, there is jack diddly squat he can do.
And they might not do the episode if Thawne just curbstomps. Cards are really stacked against him, if we're being honest.
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Still need Cyborg, probably Supergirl.
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I really want this one, excluding her last key which i heard isnt something standard, Kurumi has chances to win
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Cyborg will suck because they will take the 1 million Decibels at face value.
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Just specify which sets of stats you are using.
Infinite Zamasu is so strong OG DBS Goku decided it is too much and pressed the "one-off win button". So theoretically that should scale Infinite Zamasu above DBS Gogeta and DBS Broly.
But yeah scaling Reverse Flash to Wally or even just OG Flash means time huh GG or even just just AP stomp.
And technically he has the same technology and armor of as those used by base form Darkseid, so... yeah.
But I do wonder if they will bring in more obscure characters (instead of feeding with Android 17)... like.. dunno... Alita (Last Order) and Chise(?)
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If I recall all Goku wanted was a Senzu Bean and he would have been ready to continue fighting but he only had the Zeno Button.
Black's time ring technically protects him from time travel shenanigans but I wonder would Infinite Zamasu of anime even have that lol
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That's like the one hax Zamasu's immune to.
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My own scaling of the characters, like, the feats that I have to them etc
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Own scaling stats is perfectly fine as long as its fair and logical.
Honestly I wish they'd use a bit lower estimates in DB, because shit can get wild.
Honestly I wish they'd use a bit lower estimates in DB, because shit can get wild.
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Hmmmm, I see, I usually have most of my scaling different than VS battles one
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Anyways, which one will be the next Death Battle match? I don't have much knowledge in that channel
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Batman vs Iron Man, Hellbat and Godbuster at least included.
Someone did 3h analysis video on it so its kinda not talked much.
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Gwen Tennyson VS Terra Branford (Ben 10 VS Final Fantasy VI).
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Sakuya vs Dio is just as if not more terrible
Their connections are just time stop and knives, by that logic Sakuya should fight Simon Belmont, in fact Sakuya vs Simon makes more sense because at least Sakuya used to be a vampire hunter like Simon, both matches are still terrible tho
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Who should take this? (Archie not included and the scaling doesnt need to be VSB only)
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Tails
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Did you seriously ask about video games' Goku vs Superman?
There is no true easy answer. Both series arguably relies on things that aren't universally agreed on. It literally goes either way depending on your train of thoughts.
With that said, personally, most solid logic / least awful logic makes Sonic winner.
I'll be blunt VSW Mario is AWFUL. Legitimately one of the most wanked shit here. I literally joined here because I was too tired to watch on sidelines how wanked Mario gets. This weird VS Power Creep has infested many series and Mario is one of them. Luigi has no consistent logic to beat Thor and Mario cannot face Jiren. Some of the old admins tried to use a review to justify Mario being universal, a ******* REVIEW.
VSW is really bad for allowing this to happen.
Base Sonic should be universal based on same logic used on Mario here.
If we go for BIG lowballing, then by bare minimum Mario is not planet level while Super Sonic is and Mario wouldn't abuse his items consistently enough to make him winner most of the time. Technically a monster composite Mario could spam a lot of invincibility items forever, but that is not what Mario would realistically do. Weirdly arguments for Base Sonic being planet isn't that bad, but in fairness its definitely not what Sonic Team intended. But any logic used on lowballing Sonic can be used on Mario as well. Mario being cartoony franchise doesn't help making it consistent.
As for wank, technically Base Mario would beat Base Sonic. They both might be universal but funny enough Base Mario can be wanked to be way faster than Sonic. Except Super Sonic would be immeasurable which is a speed stomp blitz. Tho I guess Pure Hearts might AP stomp that? but shrug.
Really, I recommend doing research on this yourself, this is still not agreed on topic.
The only good thing about VSW Mario is that by it pissing me off I decided to also join here. Unironically this is one of the better Death Battle forums that exists nowadays.
There is no true easy answer. Both series arguably relies on things that aren't universally agreed on. It literally goes either way depending on your train of thoughts.
With that said, personally, most solid logic / least awful logic makes Sonic winner.
I'll be blunt VSW Mario is AWFUL. Legitimately one of the most wanked shit here. I literally joined here because I was too tired to watch on sidelines how wanked Mario gets. This weird VS Power Creep has infested many series and Mario is one of them. Luigi has no consistent logic to beat Thor and Mario cannot face Jiren. Some of the old admins tried to use a review to justify Mario being universal, a ******* REVIEW.
VSW is really bad for allowing this to happen.
Base Sonic should be universal based on same logic used on Mario here.
If we go for BIG lowballing, then by bare minimum Mario is not planet level while Super Sonic is and Mario wouldn't abuse his items consistently enough to make him winner most of the time. Technically a monster composite Mario could spam a lot of invincibility items forever, but that is not what Mario would realistically do. Weirdly arguments for Base Sonic being planet isn't that bad, but in fairness its definitely not what Sonic Team intended. But any logic used on lowballing Sonic can be used on Mario as well. Mario being cartoony franchise doesn't help making it consistent.
As for wank, technically Base Mario would beat Base Sonic. They both might be universal but funny enough Base Mario can be wanked to be way faster than Sonic. Except Super Sonic would be immeasurable which is a speed stomp blitz. Tho I guess Pure Hearts might AP stomp that? but shrug.
Really, I recommend doing research on this yourself, this is still not agreed on topic.
The only good thing about VSW Mario is that by it pissing me off I decided to also join here. Unironically this is one of the better Death Battle forums that exists nowadays.
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What are you talking about? Mario stats for the time being aren't wanks at all. They're his commonly most accepted stats (well he might get downgraded but that's besides the point). The logic applied to Mario isn't the same for Sonic. They're different series with different functions. Stop calling this shit wank
Seriously your arguments are making no sense.
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That is true
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Base versions
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Also, sorry if the image appears really big, I am in smartphone and i dunno how to fix
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Pretty sure, Thanos have hax even in base.Base versions
DB can probably pick Jiren because lol multipliers but who knows, maybe Thor would be even faster than before.
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Well, marvel scaling is a bit weird, there has some Low 2-C scales to base thanos, while Jiren scales above it due scaling above half 2-C feat, but thanos indeed has more hax, so, its fair i guess
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I mean, considering how DB looked at stuff in Hulk vs Broly the decisive factor here is really hax, which is why Thor vs Vegeta exist which can have different result via Thor's hax and being faster and faster with each episode.
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Mario is only cosmic because of magic item creating space. Power Stars create starry skies and whatnot. Power Stars grant AP.
Phantom Ruby created space, infinite space. Infinite was amped by it. Sonic beat him, even with help assistance its still a high feat.
Its very similar principal. There are no true cosmic AP feats that Mario should scale to.
And what, Rafael the Raven is unironically Star level? That Team Rocket gag feat bird?
I guess black holes count, but not only are those their own can of worms, but technically Sonic survived one too. I guess Bowser might have survived bigger if you want to have a point.
Phantom Ruby created space, infinite space. Infinite was amped by it. Sonic beat him, even with help assistance its still a high feat.
Its very similar principal. There are no true cosmic AP feats that Mario should scale to.
And what, Rafael the Raven is unironically Star level? That Team Rocket gag feat bird?
I guess black holes count, but not only are those their own can of worms, but technically Sonic survived one too. I guess Bowser might have survived bigger if you want to have a point.
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