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DC Comics: Revising the Speed of Beings of the Omniverse

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VeryGoofyToddler said:
The thing was Darkest Knight knew what he was doing. He “sent” her to the beginning of time by virtue of controlling when she was going to go by that push. That’s time manipulation, not speed of any sort. Not to mention what would “sheer force” mean?
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It might not be a feat of speed, but it's clearly a feat of strength as they were moving through the timestream by hitting each other.
 
Would the Source be irrelevant in speed or do we not use that term anymore? If so, is “it” immeasurable? I would assume so since it would see Wally as nothing but a frozen being. Stature or not, power or not, wouldn't it be immeasurable?
 
VeryGoofyToddler said:
Would the Source be irrelevant in speed or do we not use that term anymore? If so, is “it” immeasurable? I would assume so since it would see Wally as nothing but a frozen being. Stature or not, power or not, wouldn't it be immeasurable?
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The Source is just the "omniversal pool" of energy existing within everyone and everything and from which everything comes. So it's speed should be irrelevant.
 
VeryGoofyToddler said:
The thing was Darkest Knight knew what he was doing. He “sent” her to the beginning of time by virtue of controlling when she was going to go by that push. That’s time manipulation, not speed of any sort. Not to mention what would “sheer force” mean?
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Sheer force is via using physical attacks, TDK literally uses his fists to send her through time, and then proceeds to move through the timestream himself as we are shown here. That's clear cut Immeasurable. Wonder Woman even does the exact same thing herself.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Sheer force is via using physical attacks, TDK literally uses his fists to send her through time, and then proceeds to move through the timestream himself as we are shown here. That's clear cut Immeasurable. Wonder Woman even does the exact same thing herself.
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This is immeasurable how? He was following the “time” she went through as he pushes her. Hence why the scans said, “They fell through.” They're not traveling at any set speed rather they are falling through history as a result of their power being able to crunch time as each punch sends them across time not them traveling against it in a measurement of speed.

I'm not going to argue for this point because the scans can be interpreted many ways but from what I read it looks more like that and not of any speed.
 
VeryGoofyToddler said:
“They fell through.”
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Fall back through time refers to Diana going backwards in time. When Diana punches him to the future, it says "Forward through time". And she's still shown in the present. Them moving through time isn't a consequence of the attack.

VeryGoofyToddler said:
They're not traveling at any set speed rather they are falling through history as a result of their power being able to crunch time as each punch sends them across time not them traveling against it in a measurement of speed.
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TDK is shown flying after her.
 
Antvasima said:
Anyway, the Hulk has punched his way through a time storm, and Superboy Prime can change a timeline with his punches. Comic books do not tend to have only one way to break each law of physics, so punching hard enough to travel through time is not necessarily the same as punching fast enough to travel through time.
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None of them are even the same type of feat as this one.
Elizio33 said:
I fixed the link. I suppose their speed should scale to the normal speed level of Wally West (MFTL+) since Perpetua struggled to reach Martian Manhunter's mind moving between Plank times.
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1. Wasn't that a weaker Perpatua 2. That seem like just being really selective considering TDK was chasing the Flashes when they was running at the fastest than they had before.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
1. Wasn't that a weaker Perpatua 2. That seem like just being really selective considering TDK was chasing the Flashes when they was running at the fastest than they had before.
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This seems like a good point if it is correct.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
None of them are even the same type of feat as this one.

1. Wasn't that a weaker Perpatua 2. That seem like just being really selective considering TDK was chasing the Flashes when they was running at the fastest than they had before.
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Perpetua had almost restored her power, but I understand what you mean. Considering TDK was chasing the Flashes and fought against WW through the Timestream would work to scale their speed.
 
Antvasima said:
So what are the conclusions here so far?
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We rank The Darkest Knight, Anti-Crisis Wonder Woman, Perpetua immeasurable speed based on the Darkest Knight keeping up with Wally West and Wonder Wonder and the Darkest Knight battling through the Timestream.
 
Okay. That seems fine to apply then.

Is somebody here willing to handle it please?
 
I just want to remind that, @Veronica, you can't ask people to respond to your threads and comments in an unrelated threads. I have seen you do that multiple times.
 
Antvasima said:
Thank you. 🙏

Which, if any, pages do you need unlocked?
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Perpetua

Perpetua was a Hand, an agent of the Source, sent to birth a new Multiverse within the greater Omniverse. She created the original version of the current DC Multiverse, as well as her three sons, Alpheus, Mar Novu, and Mobius, who later became known as the World Forger, Over-Monitor, and...
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The Batman Who Laughs

On Earth -22, the Joker's insane rampage across Gotham City caused Batman to finally snap, breaking his long-held creed to never take a life, snapping the Clown Prince of Crime's neck to end the threat he posed once and for all. Unbeknownst to him, this released a special strain of Joker Venom...
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Wonder Woman (Post-Flashpoint)

Then YOU come down here and do it! You come down here and choose who lives and who dies! Get down here in the dirt with the rest of us! Climb down out of Olympus or wherever the hell you're hiding and DO SOMETHING!. Wonder Woman is a fictional character appearing in American comic books...
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Thank you. The pages above have been unlocked. Tell me here when you are done please. 🙏
 
Thank you. I have locked the pages again. 🙏

Should we close this thread as well?
 
Okay. Thank you to everybody who helped out here. 🙏

By the way, have you gathered a sufficient number of reliable feats to proceed with your upgrade of the DC Comics herald level characters now?
 
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