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At no point do either of them bring up anything about using time travel themselves.
Literally all they do is manipulate the planck length which Kyle later referred to as altering reality
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DC Comics herald-level characters upgrade discussion - Part 2
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Literally all they do is manipulate the planck length which Kyle later referred to as altering reality
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What's happening has nothing to do with destroying or remaking the Universe, Tempest (not Brainiac 13) is funneling energy through the Aegis to make a Boom Tube able to send Superman through time. This just has to do with the fact that the Apokoliptian tech that the Aegis has been retrofitted with already relates to Mother Boxes/Boom Tubes, which can change characters' locations, and Tempest using his magic to make it temporal rather than spatial.
This has no correlation to being able to destroy or remake the Universe, that's clearly part of the Entropy powers from the Imperiex Probes, especially considering if it's just related to Darkseid's own technology, he could just use that instead of having to retrieve the Aegis. So, if it's just based on the capabilities of the probes, those are, as explained, are very simple energy attacks without any hax affects.
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I didn't say it did. I said the Aegis acts as a crucible for energy and was able to channel various forms of energy together. Considering Darkseid needed the Aegis specifically to do what he wanted to do I don't think it's because John can nuke universes with his energy blasts.
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This thread is meant to discuss the feats, so they’re still discussing the remaining ones. The next thread is about scaling.
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I feel this has gone on for too long so I'll keep it short and answer one last thing.
If it was just Darkseid's tech giving that ability, he'd just use his tech, so the option left are the super basic entropy-powered Probe part, which Darkseid cannot replicate.
I'll just close this and move onto the deletions thing.
If it was just Darkseid's tech giving that ability, he'd just use his tech, so the option left are the super basic entropy-powered Probe part, which Darkseid cannot replicate.
I'll just close this and move onto the deletions thing.
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Sure, shouldn't take too long, should be out in a week or less.
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@Antvasima
To clarify, the following post is the list currently in discussion?
vsbattles.com
To clarify, the following post is the list currently in discussion?
DC Comics herald-level characters upgrade discussion - Part 2
And I already explained that these are two separate cosmologies, and thus not relevant at all. This is correct, yes. See here please: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/DC_Comics_Cosmology
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It was already agreed I'd do one last post and that'd pretty much be it. There were also a few days to discuss this and now it's closed@Antvasima
To clarify, the following post is the list currently in discussion?
DC Comics herald-level characters upgrade discussion - Part 2
And I already explained that these are two separate cosmologies, and thus not relevant at all. This is correct, yes. See here please: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/DC_Comics_Cosmology
If you wanna discuss the feats, we can do it in private, or another thread can be made later
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I'm still in the middle of it.
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Okay. That is good then. I have received complaints regarding that DC Comics fans feel that we are being unfair towards their favourite characters compared to Marvel Comics, so getting this project applied would likely help in that regard. 
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