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Welp, i assume you are noticing a pattern with my threads. The other one is going unfathomably slow, so i decided to start this one anyways.
The mission of this specific thread is very simple, its not to establish any upgrade or any dimensional transcendence of any sorts, its simply acknowledging the uniqueness of Earth-33 to all universes in the Orrery, which has nothing to do with upgrading anything.
Earth-33 is intended to represent our own world inside the cosmology of DC. Grant Morrison made it, and its the source of alot of the villainy stuff that happens in Multiversity.
Refer to this:
In Multiversity, the origin of the Gentry is made very clear, it is stated numerous times that The Gentry originated from Outside of The Multiverse entirely:
This idea is very much consistent, Grant Morrison actually already confirmed all of this, The nature of the Gentry and EH are made pretty clear, EH and TG are pretty much products of the readers and critics inside Earth-33.
So what am i waffling about?
So yep, long ass post for a pretty simple premise (i keep lying to myself, this shit is almost always never simple in this godforsaken verse).
Earth-33 is not a part of the usual order of the Multiverse, it clearly influences all other worlds from outside of the Multiverse. I am not looking for any tier upgrades, i am moreso just attempting to acknowledge the fact that Earth-33 is definitely not just another earth alongside all the others, its not interpreted this way in the comics, its not interpreted this way in the interviews, and its not interpreted this way on the AM appendix.
With the Bleedspace thread, innocent ol' me did indeed believe that it was going to go very easily and simple, so lets not do that again. Lets make paragraphs from the first two messages.
Big note: Do not mention any tier related changes. This thread has nothing to do with upgrading anything, it simply acknowledges that Location A is not located in Location B, but is located in Location C instead. Keep it that way please.
The mission of this specific thread is very simple, its not to establish any upgrade or any dimensional transcendence of any sorts, its simply acknowledging the uniqueness of Earth-33 to all universes in the Orrery, which has nothing to do with upgrading anything.
Earth-33 is intended to represent our own world inside the cosmology of DC. Grant Morrison made it, and its the source of alot of the villainy stuff that happens in Multiversity.
- “GM: Oh yeah, very much. There's got to be a bad guy somewhere. I don't want to say too much about that, but certainly the thing that we're doing, which is the seventh issue of the series, it's called "Ultra Comics", and it's kind of a new character but it's based on Earth Prime, which is our Earth, which we re-named Earth 33 now just so it fits in the numerical structure. | Vampire Batman, Hypnotic Induction, And God: Grant Morrison Talks ‘The Multiversity’ - July 2014
Refer to this:
- Everything begins with Point-time, the mark is all possiblity of what a linetime could become. Space A | Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne #2
- Planetime represents the encompass of linetimes, and the higher dimension being made out of Linetimes. Plane B | Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne #2
- Cubetime inhabitants view Planetime akin to flat disks. Space C | Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne #2
- “And then, i thought and obviously above that, taking the metaphor of the geometry higher you would have Cubetime, and in Cubetime are people like us that who are able to look down on Planetime with all the comicbook universes from a higher-dimensional perspective.” | Grant Morrison: Talking with Gods - September 2010
- “For the DC universe, it’s quite simple,” he continues. “You don’t need grand theories. The universe exists on the second dimension and we can read their adventures with Superman going back to 1938, and you can put them all together and look at them from above. We can line up the future Superman with the original Superman and they can see each other, but we can see both of them. For me, all of the interesting stuff, this super string stuff, is happening between me and the same dimension as this material.” | Grant Morrison Merges String Theory with Superheroes in DC’s Multiversity - 2014
- Super-string and M-theory theory of course being mentioned two times within his comics so far, as well as a very consistent cosmology shown in Multiversity and Final Crisis.
In Multiversity, the origin of the Gentry is made very clear, it is stated numerous times that The Gentry originated from Outside of The Multiverse entirely:
- The Gentry come from the space outside of creation | Absolute Multiversity
- Creation itself was under attack by Monsters (The Gentry) that come from the nowhere outside of the Multiverse | The Multiversity
- The Gentry watched the Multiverse decay | The Multiversity: Deluxe Edition
- The Gentry come from a Higher Order Reality | The Multiversity: Deluxe Edition
- Monsters come from outside of the Multiverse | The Multiversity: Deluxe Edition
This idea is very much consistent, Grant Morrison actually already confirmed all of this, The nature of the Gentry and EH are made pretty clear, EH and TG are pretty much products of the readers and critics inside Earth-33.
- The Gentry represent nihilism, anti-human hate, ignorance, greed and stupidity from the Real world | That Mad Rush: Digging Deep Into ‘The Multiversity’ With Grant Morrison [Interview]
- The Empty Hand is the ultimate big bad, beyond even the Anti-Monitor. And represents the empty hand of the reader, who wishes to participate or not | Grant Morrison on Finishing Multiversity and What's Next at DC
- Surrounding the Real world, separating the real world from the Multiverse. This barrier allows only narrative ideas and fiction to pass through. Existing outside of fiction (Planetime). | The Absolute Multiversity appendix
So what am i waffling about?
So yep, long ass post for a pretty simple premise (i keep lying to myself, this shit is almost always never simple in this godforsaken verse).
Earth-33 is not a part of the usual order of the Multiverse, it clearly influences all other worlds from outside of the Multiverse. I am not looking for any tier upgrades, i am moreso just attempting to acknowledge the fact that Earth-33 is definitely not just another earth alongside all the others, its not interpreted this way in the comics, its not interpreted this way in the interviews, and its not interpreted this way on the AM appendix.
With the Bleedspace thread, innocent ol' me did indeed believe that it was going to go very easily and simple, so lets not do that again. Lets make paragraphs from the first two messages.
Big note: Do not mention any tier related changes. This thread has nothing to do with upgrading anything, it simply acknowledges that Location A is not located in Location B, but is located in Location C instead. Keep it that way please.