misconception about DC comic supreme being.

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

So, The Source does? He's also not Monotheistic God because he is Source.

In that aspect he is one with the Source. You can have multiple gods but the belief is that they're false in the sense they're not supreme. So it kinda still fits the stick. God in his purest would be more akin to plain-out nothingness that emanated reality.

Jack Kirby already stated in his interview that he based new gods and all of his comics on Bible and Source is Christianity God + there are multiple heavens across different religions and Angles also existed in some religion like Buddhism,they are known as Nats. Ruling heaven doesn't make him Christianity God, Source has affirmation to be Christianity God but Presence isn't.

That's allegorical and not literal hence he's basing it off of it. The Presence was literally stated by Batman to be the capital “G” who punished the Devil, created Heaven and Hell, and also is the lord of angels, and the Host which are all descriptions of God from Judeo-Christian belief. There's no such things as the “Source, New Genesis, or New Gods” because they're allegorical while the Presence is that God within the DC established framework of their creation myth.

I don't know how you can still argue with this. The Source is not closer to the Christian God when the Presence in almost every way matches that description a lot better.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

In that aspect he is one with the Source. You can have multiple gods but the belief is that they're false in the sense they're not supreme. So it kinda still fits the stick. God in his purest would be more akin to plain-out nothingness that emanated reality.

That's allegorical and not literal hence he's basing it off of it. The Presence was literally stated by Batman to be the capital “G” who punished the Devil, created Heaven and Hell, and also is the lord of angels, and the Host which are all descriptions of God from Judeo-Christian belief. There's no such things as the “Source, New Genesis, or New Gods” because they're allegorical while the Presence is that God within the DC established framework of their creation myth.

I don't know how you can still argue with this. The Source is not closer to the Christian God when the Presence in almost every way matches that description a lot better.

Original Presence is one with Source, Death Metal didn't say " the one that equaled with Source isn't aspect of Presence ". The story never suggests like that lol. You are making ur own head-canons again, they do have different beliefs on God but in essence they are one, Spectre only thought that Presence is one but He realized that it's Source and Source is Presence.

So, Buddhism does? Actually that also could be Source because Source is literally based on Jewish and Judo Christianity which affirmed by Jack Kirby.
in that case, Source also would be Judo-Christianity God, Presence never get mentioned directly but Source is stated as.

Atleast, Source was affirmed by his own writer and meanwhile, Presence ain't

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Original Presence is one with Source, Death Metal didn't say " the one that equaled with Source isn't aspect of Presence ". The story never suggests like that lol. You are making ur own head-canons again, they do have different beliefs on God but in essence they are one, Spectre only thought that Presence is one but He realized that it's Source and Source is Presence.

The Light being the Source in a recent comic is more important then what happened during Death Metal since the series is over and new information is given. That's how things work, the current information supersedes the previous ones.

So, Buddhism does? Actually that also could be Source because Source is literally based on Jewish and Judo Christianity which affirmed by Jack Kirby.
in that case, Source also would be Judo-Christianity God, Presence never get mentioned directly but Source is stated as.

That not only is such an old statement, but being allegorical to the Judeo-Christain God doesn't equate you to it. Especially, when you consider the source of inspiration for Kirby doesn't mention anything about multiple gods nor something like a Godwave.

Also, “directly?” You're going off an author statement over the comics which literally mentions of things that happen in the Bible with the Presence.

Atleast, Source was affirmed by his own writer and meanwhile, Presence ain't

His own “writer” doesn't determine anything, much less how DC owns the Source, not Kirby. The Presence has been featured in many stories with the context of the Judeo-Christain myth.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

The Light being the Source in a recent comic is more important then what happened during Death Metal since the series is over and new information is given. That's how things work, the current information supersedes the previous ones.

That not only is such an old statement, but being allegorical to the Judeo-Christain God doesn't equate you to it. Especially, when you consider the source of inspiration for Kirby doesn't mention anything about multiple gods nor something like a Godwave.

Also, “directly?” You're going off an author statement over the comics which literally mentions of things that happen in the Bible with the Presence.

His own “writer” doesn't determine anything, much less how DC owns the Source, not Kirby. The Presence has been featured in many stories with the context of the Judeo-Christain myth.

it doesn't make Life entity not being Light of creation.

Jack Kirby also applied same as well, New gods were formless at the beginning and when light was lighten, they get forms. It seems like you didn't read my replies well. Any comics that he wrote in previous days are based on Bible and whole interview is about New gods comic.

They didn't mentioned Presence as judo Christianity God, that's heaven or hell in DC are as well as based on Buddhism planes as well.

Kirby is the one who published Source and how funny the same DC that established Judo-Christianity God in the God's sphere. The presence as judo-christianity God mixed with Chinese myths is in Vertigo, not in mainstream.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

it doesn't make Life entity not being Light of creation.

Yes, it does unless you're trying to equate Life Entity = The Source which based on what we said earlier, you've claimed it was linked but ultimately the Source is higher.

Jack Kirby also applied same as well, New gods were formless at the beginning and when light was lighten, they get forms. It seems like you didn't read my replies well. Any comics that he wrote in previous days are based on Bible and whole interview is about New gods comic.

Using new gods in the context of Judeo-Christain mythology is as hearsay as it gets. Regardless, I've already said that they're allegorical, but not literal. He could just written it way more directly, but he didn't as he was bound to the code of ethics.

They didn't mentioned Presence as judo Christianity God, that's heaven or hell in DC are as well as based on Buddhism planes as well.

You really don't know that the spiritual planes basically Heaven and Hell were made to mirror Judeo-Chrisatinity first with the others being secondary, right? They call them angels and Heaven for a reason within the context that it follows that specific belief system.

Kirby is the one who published Source and how funny the same DC that established Judo-Christianity God in the God's sphere. The presence as judo-christianity God mixed with Chinese myths is in Vertigo, not in mainstream.

No? Vertigo stories were far preceded by mainstream which already went over those stories. Vertigo didn't invent or made Judeo-Christian lore. They only expanded it with stories like Sandman and Lucifer, but ultimately didn't make it. Its also not surprising they primarily base it on that than other religions for a reason.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

The Light being the Source in a recent comic is more important then what happened during Death Metal since the series is over and new information is given. That's how things work, the current information supersedes the previous ones.

That not only is such an old statement, but being allegorical to the Judeo-Christain God doesn't equate you to it. Especially, when you consider the source of inspiration for Kirby doesn't mention anything about multiple gods nor something like a Godwave.

Also, “directly?” You're going off an author statement over the comics which literally mentions of things that happen in the Bible with the Presence.

His own “writer” doesn't determine anything, much less how DC owns the Source, not Kirby. The Presence has been featured in many stories with the context of the Judeo-Christain myth.

it doesn't make Life entity not being Light of creation.

Jack Kirby also applied same as well, New gods were formless at the beginning and when light was lighten, they get forms. It seems like you didn't read my replies well. Any comics that he wrote in previous days are based on Bible and whole interview is about New gods comic.

They didn't mentioned Presence as judo Christianity God, that's heaven or hell in DC are as well as based on Buddhism planes as well.

Kirby is the one who published Source and how funny the same DC that established Judo-Christianity God in the God's sphere. The presence as judo-christianity God mixed with Chinese myths is in Vertigo, not in main stream.

 

[Elizio33]

The Life Entity isn't The Light of Creation? The Light of Creation is The Source.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

it doesn't make Life entity not being Light of creation.

Life of Creation is very specific. It's not just the light connected to the Emotional Spectrum, but the very source of all things. Nothing of the “Life Entity” is near that scale.

Jack Kirby also applied same as well, New gods were formless at the beginning and when light was lighten, they get forms. It seems like you didn't read my replies well. Any comics that he wrote in previous days are based on Bible and whole interview is about New gods comic.

Again, that's very irrelevant to the Judeo-Christian myth. No such things as “new gods” in Bible.

They didn't mentioned Presence as judo Christianity God, that's heaven or hell in DC are as well as based on Buddhism planes as well.

Based on Buddhism? Its very intentional what they're trying to convey as Heaven. Buddhism is the least on their mind, I can tell you that.

Kirby is the one who published Source and how funny the same DC that established Judo-Christianity God in the God's sphere. The presence as judo-christianity God mixed with Chinese myths is in Vertigo, not in main stream.

You make the same points that doesn't mean anything. Vertigo didn't create that and Chinese mythology mix is unique to Sandman and nothing more.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

The Life Entity isn't The Light of Creation? The Light of Creation is The Source.

Blackest Nights suggested both way.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

Life of Creation is very specific. It's not just the light connected to the Emotional Spectrum, but the very source of all things. Nothing of the “Life Entity” is near that scale.

Again, that's very irrelevant to the Judeo-Christian myth. No such things as “new gods” in Bible.

Based on Buddhism? Its very intentional what they're trying to convey as Heaven. Buddhism is the least on their mind, I can tell you that.

You make the same points that doesn't mean anything. Vertigo didn't create that and Chinese mythology mix is unique to Sandman and nothing more.

You doesn't seems to understand, Life entity is primordial force of multiverse, it's the source of rainbow spectrum known as Perpetua's multiverse.

It still based upon it, Bible heaven doesn't have Buddha or something but it stated, isn't it?

so, they don't based on biblically accurate Heaven? Therefore, Presence isn't Judo-Christianity God at all.

Lucifer #75, Lucifer nirvana and Japanese hell arc disapproved.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

You doesn't seems to understand, Life entity is primordial force of multiverse, it's the source of rainbow spectrum known as Perpetua's multiverse.

The Emotional Spectrum is one of the seven forces of Creation which was wielded by Perpetua. So, the Emotional Spectrum doesn't not encompasses all of Creation on its own, and I say it's really the weakest of the bunch. Plus, the Life Force is its own things undermines what the Life Entity is suppose to represent, if it were “ the primordial force of the Multiverse”, which it isn't.

It still based upon it, Bible heaven doesn't have Buddha or something but it stated, isn't it?

so, they don't based on biblically accurate Heaven? Therefore, Presence isn't Judo-Christianity God at all.

Lucifer #75, Lucifer nirvana and Japanese hell arc disapproved.

Nothing here is proves your points any better.

 

[Ebihara]

this thread is still going? its been 3 pages of the same back and forth it looks like.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

this thread is still going? its been 3 pages of the same back and forth it looks like.

I just recommend it closes since no one else seems interested. The only mod that appeared also disagrees and it's only a few people who view it that way.

 

[AndrewBennet]

The concept of Brahman is mentioned old DC stories . However, wiki strictly forbade using religious deities who are still worshipped and relevant. This might refer to The Source or The Presence

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

The concept of Brahman is mentioned old DC stories . However, wiki strictly forbade using religious deities who are still worshipped and relevant. This might refer to The Source or The Presence

I mean the entire premise of DeMatteis’s “Divine Presence” is based on Brahman.

 

[AndrewBennet]

This thread should be closed

 

[Swanyee9t76]

This thread should be closed

No, we haven't decide the votes yet lmao

 

[Swanyee9t76]

The Emotional Spectrum is one of the seven forces of Creation which was wielded by Perpetua. So, the Emotional Spectrum doesn't not encompasses all of Creation on its own, and I say it's really the weakest of the bunch. Plus, the Life Force is its own things undermines what the Life Entity is suppose to represent, if it were “ the primordial force of the Multiverse”, which it isn't.

Nothing here is proves your points any better.

You are talking about " It's Emotional spectrum " meanwhile It's the same force that fought with Great Darkness. Life entity is the primoridal force which everything came from. U are making ur own things up again, Life force is part of entity and Life entity was supposed to be white light itself but a form of white light ( I already proved it ).

That's what u think.

 

[Ebihara]

No, we haven't decide the votes yet lmao

then you're going to go need to ask more staff for votes cause the only staff thats evaulted this so far has disagreed and so has the other people active in the thread. so you can count votes now and make a more put together and coherent CRT with new arguments or you can start asking more staff for input cause it stands the thread has failed.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

You are talking about " It's Emotional spectrum " meanwhile It's the same force that fought with Great Darkness. Life entity is the primoridal force which everything came from. U are making ur own things up again, Life force is part of entity and Life entity was supposed to be white light itself but a form of white light ( I already proved it ).

The first scan is literally how every story goes and unless you're telling me Nekron is supposed to be Darkness incarnate it hardly proves your point. Recent comes pivot the Source as the Light and The Darkness as the Dark without having to do anything with the Life Entity nor Nekron.

Your second scan do just refers to Light in general and doesn't mention anything of the Life Entity. Also, the Life Force was said to be an energy of its own, not a part of the Emotional Spectrcum which again you're among up.

The problem with no one accepting your view is that you don't use current information.

That's what u think.

That's really only what you think. The Wiki and the vast majority have already agreed to it.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

The first scan is literally how every story goes and unless you're telling me Nekron is supposed to be Darkness incarnate it hardly proves your point. Recent comes pivot the Source as the Light and The Darkness as the Dark without having to do anything with the Life Entity nor Nekron.

Your second scan do just refers to Light in general and doesn't mention anything of the Life Entity. Also, the Life Force was said to be an energy of its own, not a part of the Emotional Spectrcum which again you're among up.

The problem with no one accepting your view is that you don't use current information.

That's really only what you think. The Wiki and the vast majority have already agreed to it.

No it's not? you are claiming that " It's only an emotinal spectrum " meanwhile it literally conflicted with TGD. Yea?

Life entity was directly meant to be White Light as I already provided it Blackest Night suggested same because White Light amped Anti Monitor to fought against Nekron because Blackest Night #1 directly implied that Black Lnaterns corps rotate around corpse of Anti-Monitor. Which implied that the scn from War of the gods and Blackest Night are directly linking.

So, who even accept ur opinion about Life entity not being Light?

??

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

No it's not? you are claiming that " It's only an emotinal spectrum " meanwhile it literally conflicted with TGD. Yea?

It didn't conflict with the Great Darkness unless you're trying to say Nekron is the Great Darkness which the comics directly proved him not be.

Life entity was directly meant to be White Light as I already provided it Blackest Night suggested same because White Light amped Anti Monitor to fought against Nekron because Blackest Night #1 directly implied that Black Lnaterns corps rotate around corpse of Anti-Monitor. Which implied that the scn from War of the gods and Blackest Night are directly linking.

This is irrelevant to Dark Crisis lore.

So, who even accept ur opinion about Life entity not being Light?

More like its already accepted by the majority the Source is the Light.

??

Most of the people here including most knoweldbale people across many forums agree that the Presence is more closely linked to the Judeo-Christain God than the Source. So far, of all the arguments I heard, yours is the first to mention this and clearly, not many, if not at all agree with your claim.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

It didn't conflict with the Great Darkness unless you're trying to say Nekron is the Great Darkness which the comics directly proved him not be.

This is irrelevant to Dark Crisis lore.

More like its already accepted by the majority the Source is the Light.

Most of the people here including most knoweldbale people across many forums agree that the Presence is more closely linked to the Judeo-Christain God than the Source. So far, of all the arguments I heard, yours is the first to mention this and clearly, not many, if not at all agree with your claim.

Nekron is an aspect of Tgd, that brought power of death from corpse of Anti Monitor. Life entity is an opposite part of Nekron but White Light of creation ( true self of life entity ) conflicted with Darkness. It's not non-canon as well, since sphere of the gods was full of darkness at the beginning and Presence/Source brought white light near God sphere or on the God sphere because life encompasses God's sphere and universes as well.

Dark Crisis isn't the only event in DC.

Yea but White light of creation is light of creation as well, that's how story suggested.

I’m not concerned about whether others agree or not. My goal is simply to clarify things. People often claim 'Source = Overvoid' because Morrison used a '/' between them, but they overlook that the Source/White Page is akin to God but the Void, the Page, God, and the Overvoid are essentially one. Morrison presented the Overvoid as a purely non-dual entity—neither light nor dark, but a transparent void. When examined closely, the events reveal that Darkness represents the eternal canvas, the Light of Creation corresponds to the White Page, and the Overvoid is described as the transparent page where infinite pages converge into a single point. Even if one doesn't view the Overvoid as a supreme being, it’s clear that it surpasses both the totality of light and darkness. Ultimately, whether you agree or not doesn’t matter to me.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Nekron is an aspect of Tgd, that brought power of death from corpse of Anti Monitor. Life entity is an opposite part of Nekron but White Light of creation ( true self of life entity ) conflicted with Darkness. It's not non-canon as well, since sphere of the gods was full of darkness at the beginning and Presence/Source brought white light near God sphere or on the God sphere because life encompasses God's sphere and universes as well.

The Darkness surrounding the Sphere wouldn't be the full Darkness then based on more recent information.

Dark Crisis isn't the only event in DC.

Its certainly is more recent than Blackest Nights. Thus, the information is rather better.

Yea but White light of creation is light of creation as well, that's how story suggested.

The Light is the Source. That's not hard to understand when the recent Flash comics clawed them the same thing.

I’m not concerned about whether others agree or not. My goal is simply to clarify things. People often claim 'Source = Overvoid' because Morrison used a '/' between them, but they overlook that the Source/White Page is akin to God but the Void, the Page, God, and the Overvoid are essentially one. Morrison presented the Overvoid as a purely non-dual entity—neither light nor dark, but a transparent void. When examined closely, the events reveal that Darkness represents the eternal canvas, the Light of Creation corresponds to the White Page, and the Overvoid is described as the transparent page where infinite pages converge into a single point. Even if one doesn't view the Overvoid as a supreme being, it’s clear that it surpasses both the totality of light and darkness. Ultimately, whether you agree or not doesn’t matter to me.

Akin to the white page which was also called the Void/Overvoid is meant for a comparison purpose. It does not at all differentiate anything between the two. Plus, you are essentially saying they are the same(Source and Overvoid).

Morrison didn't write anything past Final Crisis and Multiversity where he used the Overvoid as that. So unless, you're saying his WoG and story is more important than the recent events then I suggest you get out of that mindset.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

The Darkness surrounding the Sphere wouldn't be the full Darkness then based on more recent information.

Its certainly is more recent than Blackest Nights. Thus, the information is rather better.

The Light is the Source. That's not hard to understand when the recent Flash comics clawed them the same thing.

Akin to the white page which was also called the Void/Overvoid is meant for a comparison purpose. It does not at all differentiate anything between the two. Plus, you are essentially saying they are the same(Source and Overvoid).

Morrison didn't write anything past Final Crisis and Multiversity where he used the Overvoid as that. So unless, you're saying his WoG and story is more important than the recent events then I suggest you get out of that mindset.

Which basically suggest that darkness existed below the light multiverse, It surround around god's sphere since origin of hecate directly implied that she's the only light of possibility around the still-forming multiverse and Hecate looked upon the darkness. Not only at all, new gods #7 directly stated that New gods were formless until the dawn of light lighten god's sphere.


I meant, dark crisis doesn't have an informations that much except JLI, as I said before, this have multiple flaws like mandrakk and TGD being the source of all multiversal crisis, which contradicted with previous stories as well, also Dark crisis itself never mentioned " Source is Light as well "

No? Morrison never applied White page as Page. It wrote it for purpose. As Overvoid was meant to be transparent page/void vand meanwhile Source isn't. No, what a misintrepertation, Overvoid was meant to be God and Source was directly meant to be an aspect of God? which basically mean Source's just a manifestation of Overvoid or an aspect of it.

I can even prove it without using an interview, I'm using interviews to make things understandable.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Which basically suggest that darkness existed below the light multiverse, It surround around god's sphere since origin of hecate directly implied that she's the only light of possibility around the still-forming multiverse and Hecate looked upon the darkness. Not only at all, new gods #7 directly stated that New gods were formless until the dawn of light lighten god's sphere.

Now, we’re just backtracking. The Darkness predates the Multiverse and the Light. Again, you're not using the current information.

I meant, dark crisis doesn't have an informations that much except JLI, as I said before, this have multiple flaws like mandrakk and TGD being the source of all multiversal crisis, which contradicted with previous stories as well, also Dark crisis itself never mentioned " Source is Light as well "

It really doesn't matter whether it has the most information or not, its quite clear on what it said. Dark Crisis mentions that the Overvoid is the Light then in Flash that the Source is the Light. So there's a common ground between those three like when Morrison puts the Source and Overvoid as just the same thing.

No? Morrison never applied White page as Page. It wrote it for purpose. As Overvoid was meant to be transparent page/void vand meanwhile Source isn't. No, what a misintrepertation, Overvoid was meant to be God and Source was directly meant to be an aspect of God? which basically mean Source's just a manifestation of Overvoid or an aspect of it.

He never said the Source was an aspect of God which he went as far as saying the Void, Source, and God were all one thing denoting the white page. Also, the white page is meant to symbolize the comic book page so it literally means the same thing as paper. A blank page or paper is typically “white.”

I can even prove it without using an interview, I'm using interviews to make things understandable.

You've certainly used things other than recent comics, that's for sure.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

When Superman and Captain held the limbo's book, they we

Now, we’re just backtracking. The Darkness predates the Multiverse and the Light. Again, you're not using the current information.

If Overvoid is like then why would the hand of Overvoid waiting in heaven while the great darkness invades DC Multiverse? Overvoid is never stated to be in Heaven or anyway. Besides it didn’t even have physical manifestations. Only light and the source has. Implying Light and The Overvoid is completely different. Also Light waiting in Heaven which is the Presence realm means light and the Presence is the same exact thing.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

It really doesn't matter whether it has the most information or not, its quite clear on what it said. Dark Crisis mentions that the Overvoid is the Light then in Flash that the Source is the Light. So there's a common ground between those three like when Morrison puts the Source and Overvoid as just the same thing.

In which sentence that mentions the source and the overvoid is just the same thing in Dark Crisis? Pls don’t joke so much.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

He never said the Source was an aspect of God which he went as far as saying the Void, Source, and God were all one thing denoting the white page. Also, the white page is meant to symbolize the comic book page so it literally means the same thing as paper. A blank page or paper is typically “white.”

While Morrison said the source is the white page, Overvoid is page itself

 

[Swanyee9t76]

You've certainly used things other than recent comics, that's for sure.

Yeah Lol because recent comics didn’t mention anything about Source = Light = Overvoid. That’s just headcanon. Showed the sentence mentioning it. I will wait.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

When Superman and Captain held the limbo's book, they we

If Overvoid is like then why would the hand of Overvoid waiting in heaven while the great darkness invades DC Multiverse? Overvoid is never stated to be in Heaven or anyway. Besides it didn’t even have physical manifestations. Only light and the source has. Implying Light and The Overvoid is completely different. Also Light waiting in Heaven which is the Presence realm means light and the Presence is the same exact thing.

That's how continuity work. What it was in Final Crisis is irrelevant since that's not the leading story.

In which sentence that mentions the source and the overvoid is just the same thing in Dark Crisis? Pls don’t joke so much.

It’s mentioned in the blog several times. It was called the Light during JLI #4 because it referenced Multiversity where it was called Immaculate Perfection. You're arguing against yourself at this point.

While Morrison said the source is the white page, Overvoid is page itself

The white page is the page. If Grant Morrison was very insistent that the Void is the page in which things are written. Then he's using it to describe how in comics things are drawn upon a blank piece of paper which is white. This is not hard to see. You really think comics were written on something other than a white page?

Yeah Lol because recent comics didn’t mention anything about Source = Light = Overvoid. That’s just headcanon. Showed the sentence mentioning it. I will wait.

This site has accepted this view due to the majority of knowledgable members here saying it does. You're in the minorities of people that don't agree which is a very small group.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

That's how continuity work. What it was in Final Crisis is irrelevant since that's not the leading story.

It’s mentioned in the blog several times. It was called the Light during JLI #4 because it referenced Multiversity where it was called Immaculate Perfection. You're arguing against yourself at this point.

The white page is the page. If Grant Morrison was very insistent that the Void is the page in which things are written. Then he's using it to describe how in comics things are drawn upon a blank piece of paper which is white. This is not hard to see. You really think comics were written on something other than a white page?


This site has accepted this view due to the majority of knowledgable members here saying it does. You're in the minorities of people that don't agree which is a very small group.

that’s continuity but I was implying that Overvoid doesn’t have any physical manifestations like Presence or Source other than Dax Novu,

It’s how you interpreted it, Dark Crisis only reconfirmed that perfection as Light since The multiversity one is vague and JLi just reconfirming it. I don’t see what’s hard to grasp outta there since both of story ( multiversity and JLI ) never applied Overvoid in that sentence but you did.

It would be, if Morrison never applied White Page as SORT OF GOD and Page as GOD ITSELF OR VOID. It’s seems like you are making ur head-canons again. Morrison never said like how you interpret and Nature of Overvoid is transparent page, I don’t see what’s hard to grasp here as well as Morrison directly applied Source = White page = Sort of God = aspect of God and meanwhile, he applied Overvoid = God = Page = Void/transparent.

So, you are saying opinions of people are more accurate than textual evidence that Writer’s applied? You might be joking, I’m not making my own stories or own head-canons here, I’m just using Writer’s direct interpretations unlike how you are applying your own understanding over writer’s interpretation.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

that’s continuity but I was implying that Overvoid doesn’t have any physical manifestations like Presence or Source other than Dax Novu,

Dax Novu isn’t a manifestation of the Overvoid, which itself is a manifestation of the Presence.

It’s how you interpreted it, Dark Crisis only reconfirmed that perfection as Light since The multiversity one is vague and JLi just reconfirming it. I don’t see what’s hard to grasp outta there since both of story ( multiversity and JLI ) never appliedOvervoid in that sentence but you did.

It was pretty clear that the statement was referring to the Overvoid which is already applied in this thread.

It would be, if Morrison never applied White Page as SORT OF GOD and Page as GOD ITSELF OR VOID. It’s seems like you are making ur head-canons again. Morrison never said like how you interpret and Nature of Overvoid is transparent page, I don’t see what’s hard to grasp here as well as Morrison directly applied Source = White page = Sort of God = aspect of God and meanwhile, he applied Overvoid = God = Page = Void/transparent.

He, himself, literally called the Overvoid the same thing as the Source as the white page:

Morrison: Yeah, it's a bit of that. It's also the idea that they're like angels as well. For me, the cool, essential idea of all stories being real creates this great cosmology to play with. It's the notion that the white page itself is a void, and in the context of the DC Universe, well that's God or The Source. In the white page, or the void, anything can happen, everything is possible. As I dug down closer to the very root of the activity I find myself engaged in as a career, I was thinking "what is the basis of the comic book story? What actually is it?"

In the case of comic book stories, it's the war between white page and ink. And who's to say that the page might want that particular story drawn on it? [laughs] What happens if the page is a bit pissed off at the story that's drawn on it? So I thought of the page as God. The idea being that the Overvoid – as we called it in Final Crisis - of the white page as a space is sort of God. And it's condensing stories out of itself because it finds inside its own gigantic white space, self-absorbed pristine consciousness, it finds this little stain or mark, this DC Multiverse somebody has 'drawn'. And it starts investigating, and it's just shocked with what it sees, with all the crazy activity and signifying going on in there. It then tries to protect itself from the seething contact with 'story' and imagines a race of beings, 'angels' or 'monitors' (another word for angel, of course) to function as an interface between its own giant eternal magnificence and this tiny, weird crawling anthill of life and significance that is the DC Multiverse.

Morrison: Yeah. Again, on the very edge of the art and the edge of the mind of God there are these two big concepts fighting – Superman and Mandrakk, Predation and Protection, Greed and Preservation, Ugly and Beautiful, Youth and Age, Good and Evil, Black and White, Is and Isn't and all the others. Beyond that crumbling ledge in Monitor-World, those concepts don't exist and it's all non-dual Monitor mind, or God, or Kirby's Source, in which all contradictions are resolved into unity. It's funny, the more I talk about it, the more I'm getting into it!

So, you are saying opinions of people are more accurate than textual evidence that Writer’s applied? You might be joking, I’m not making my own stories or own head-canons here, I’m just using Writer’s direct interpretations unlike how you are applying your own understanding over writer’s interpretation.

You calling your evidence as “factual” is quite possible the funniest thing I’ve ever heard since there’s really no one that believes this notion. Your headcanon is very much inaccurate.

 

[Swanyee9t76]

Dax Novu isn’t a manifestation of the Overvoid, which itself is a manifestation of the Presence.

It was pretty clear that the statement was referring to the Overvoid which is already applied in this thread.

He, himself, literally called the Overvoid the same thing as the Source as the white page:





You calling your evidence as “factual” is quite possible the funniest thing I’ve ever heard since there’s really no one that believes this notion. Your headcanon is very much inaccurate.

Head-canon again

So, you are guessing?

He never implied Overvoid as White page itself actually, Morrison May put Overvoid and Source in same sentence with “ / “ because Source is an aspect of Overvoid which basically means Source is also Overvoid but lesser aspect with limited functionality. You just don’t understand the concept, Morrison directly stated that Source is an aspect of God which is the highest sphere of cosmology.

I’m pretty sure, the one who’s taking head-canons is you since you can’t prove that JLI#4 provided that Overvoid = Light? Meanwhile there’s no specific evidence about it and claiming Overvoid as white page? When Morrison never applied it as?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Head-canon again

It was discussed in several threads before this one. It was largely accepted that Dax Novu don’t a manifestation of the Overvoid and the pages clarifies this. So far, only you as of now has made a point like this which is refutable by ample of evidences in prior threads.

So, you are guessing?

No. It was stated and the Cosmology blog explains it well.

He never implied Overvoid as White page itself actually, Morrison May put Overvoid and Source in same sentence with “ / “ because Source is an aspect of Overvoid which basically means Source is also Overvoid but lesser aspect with limited functionality. You just don’t understand the concept, Morrison directly stated that Source is an aspect of God which is the highest sphere of cosmology.

Except he never said the Source was lesser which is purely what you’re spewing.

I’m pretty sure, the one who’s taking head-canons is you since you can’t prove that JLI#4 provided that Overvoid = Light? Meanwhile there’s no specific evidence about it and claiming Overvoid as white page? When Morrison never applied it as?

I did several times and we already discussed it. However, your point hasn’t been accepted by anyone so far which the blog already states the relationship between the Light and the Source which is accepted as the same.