Darth Vader vs Yhwach & Kaguya

[HST_Master]

Geek vs Weebs

though Star Wars has one of the largest fanbase in the world

and then you get the HST which is a large part of the anime fanbase

both are toxic and loud mouth to a degree.

no u

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Chi/Ki is generated internally by all living beings.

while the force is a mythical energy that surrounds all living beings


however, i assume Yhwach powernull worked on Vader's Midichlorians, so it didnt powernull Vader but powernulled his connection to the force.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Goku has nothing to do with this.

 

[Frantzy12]

>No resistance to power-null Vader.

>Force grants him immunity to power-null.


If you think that is the case make a CRT to give them power-null resistnace to things below the "level of the Force.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I guess Goku can win against a brick wall with low-godly regen?

Oh wait nope because he doesn't have anything to kill it with.

And my example was exactly what your saying,your giving characters resistance to thing they don't have.

Force and Ki are completely different. Ki is an internal power source. The force is the universe itself powering you.

 

[The_Everlasting]

He doesn't actually resist power null.

It's just that the thing you need to power null is kinda hard to null.

 

[Frantzy12]

Make a CRT about it if their is an issue to give him resistance to power null below the force.

 

[LordGinSama]

Well power null can still work, it just needs to severe the connection between Vader and the Force from what Shadow said. So Yhwach can still power null.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

He doesn't resist it. It's a matter of what you actually have to null.

 

[HST_Master]

basically

ki,chakra,etc. = internal

Force = External but maybe the powernull could work on his S-Cells

Midichlorians

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

this truly is geeks vs Weebs

Knight was right

but......

what is this then

STAR WARS MANGA

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

>Yhwach can power-null the Living Force of the universe including time

>Almighty is not NLF it can't power-null shit that's infinitely above him

Pick one.

 

[Frantzy12]

I think i'll go with Shadows explaination instead.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

And it begins. This becomes a trend on every Yhwach fight.

 

[AstralKing7]

EHHHHH!!!?? Mat this logic can be used for all Cosmos users in SS since they use the energy from the cosmos lol.

Can the universe be considered part of nature??

 

[HST_Master]

It's weebs vs weebs now

 

[Schnee_One]

EHHHHH!!!?? Mat this logic can be used for all Cosmos users in SS since they use the energy from the cosmos lol.

Can the universe be considered part of nature??

Literally every Saint has some resistance to power Null tho

 

[Frantzy12]

Lol I literally don't understand what the issue with Yhwach is.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

EHHHHH!!!?? Mat this logic can be used for all Cosmos users in SS since they use the energy from the cosmos lol.

Cosmos users make use of the Microcosmos within themselves bad analogy.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Lol I literally don't understand what the issue with Yhwach is.

I can explain it to you as to why is causes problems.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Lol I literally don't understand what the issue with Yhwach is.

The issue is you think he has Low 2-C powernull.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I love the fact that everyone is so serious even though this match won't be added

 

[AstralKing7]

EHHHHH!!!?? Mat this logic can be used for all Cosmos users in SS since they use the energy from the cosmos lol.

Cosmos users make use of the Microcosmos within themselves bad analogy.

is the universe apart of nature?? not asking for SS btw

 

[Oilord]

And it begins. This becomes a trend on every Yhwach fight.

only becames a trend when people unknowledgeable in bleach argue against it. be hatin bleach supporters cuz they be preaching truth

almighty gg. the vader overplay needs to end.

 

[Frantzy12]

Ehhh sure.It's not like i'm lying about what he does.It's simply how kubo wrote his character.

Counters to the Almighty include powerful Causality Manipulation via his own words,Precog immunity via his own words,can't be seen from future,or even a better power null. he isn't a difficult character to understand.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

only becames a trend when people unknowledgeable in bleach argue against it.

almighty gg. the vader overplay needs to end.

Shatterpoint = Almighty. Vader mindhaxes Yhwach and transmutes Kaguya into a chair.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

"only becames a trend when people unknowledgeable in bleach argue against it. "

So basically nearly everyone who has to debate against it.

"almighty gg. the vader overplay needs to end."

Explain how. Explain this "overplay" you can't say that and not expand on why it's overplay with no evidence.

 

[Frantzy12]

No this is Darth Vader,I feel like this getting deseperate for a match that won't be added lmao.

Is this what happeneds without mind hax gg on the table?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I believe that Vader wins this match because he can't be power-nulled nor mindhaxed here.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

No this is Darth Vader,I feel like this getting deseperate for a match that won't be added lmao.
Is this what happeneds without mind hax gg on the table?

thats like saying "so is this what happens with out Almighty gg on the table"

whats your point in this

 

[Frantzy12]

It's a good thing Yhwach doesn't mind hax???

Your saying SW character are immune to power null in a neutral battle zone,this isn't the star wars universe.

A resistance to something they never displayed..well at least vader.

 

[AstralKing7]

bht be can get BFRd lol calls it a day.


also these types of matches dont get added

 

[Dziga]

I guess Goku can win against a brick wall with low-godly regen?

Oh wait nope because he doesn't have anything to kill it with.

And my example was exactly what your saying,your giving characters resistance to thing they don't have.

 

[Frantzy12]

Without Almighty Yhwach is nothing also well not like Vader since he isn't human tier.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

A neutral battle zone would require the Force existing. Bad argument.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Without Almighty Yhwach is nothing also well not like Vader since he isn't human tier.

Vader isnt human tier with out the mindhax

no almighty

and no mindhax

Vader would still stomp

Vader is human tier with out the force tho

 

[Frantzy12]

You need to display resistance to something to argue it.

Shadow already explained it anyways.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Vader mindhaxes and transmutes. His hax are thought based and he's much faster then the people he's fighting. That simple really.

 

[Frantzy12]

that was my point Shadow im talking about the power-null.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

ehh lets just call it a day and close the thread tbh