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Location: Hangar of Imperial Star Destroyer
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Rules:

  • Speed equalized
  • 8-A Post rebels Vader used and 8-A 3 fingers sukuna used

Darth Vader: @Arkenis @EL_xWatcher1234x @BrackishBrineBroth @DaReaperMan @Quibster @Robo432343 @Vithal
Sukuna:
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I don't think Vader would do this in-character, he likes to play with his opponents
That is not true at all, he only does this when he knows for absolute certain he's superior to them and even then he tends to kill fodder quickly. This is not the same situation as he knows for a fact that Sukuna can obliterate him with Cleave and Dismantle which he can't even see, so he's killing Sukuna as quickly as possible.
 
Even if that doesn't work he can just use the Force to completely prevent Sukuna from moving whatsoever and then just cut him into pieces.
It doesn’t and Sukuna can use his CT without handsigns to hurt darth vader while paralysed. If it becomes a serious problem he can also use domain amplification to nullify the effect on his body.
 
It doesn’t and Sukuna can use his CT without handsigns to hurt darth vader while paralysed. If it becomes a serious problem he can also use domain amplification to nullify the effect on his body.
He needs to be able to aim still and Vader will have already killed him by the time he thinks to use it.
 
He needs to be able to aim still and Vader will have already killed him by the time he thinks to use it.
He’s used dismantle without aiming with his hands before and the idea that Sukuna wouldn’t think to use of his abilities is pretty damn silly. He’s much better at making use with what he has on short notice than DV.

Also RCT means that unless DV specifically goes for the head first, this already pretty unbelievable series of events is even less likely to happen.
 
He’s used dismantle without aiming with his hands before and the idea that Sukuna wouldn’t think to use of his abilities is pretty damn silly. He’s much better at making use with what he has on short notice than DV.

Also RCT means that unless DV specifically goes for the head first, this already pretty unbelievable series of events is even less likely to happen.
He will know to do that because he has Prior knowledge, we already established this.
 
Anyway Sukuna has a pretty clear victory here, DV doesn’t have anything that puts him down quick whereas MS does that to DV.
 
Without Prior Knowledge Vader won't expect an invisible instant kill move just by Sukuna posing and monologing at him, so he just dies. Honestly this whole match feels like a mismatch.
 
Domain=Mind
It a weakness's in JJK where cursed techniques can't teleport inside something with a mind. Every sentient being(with or without CE) have a domain.
That is an innate domain. The databook states a body is a domain and has to be penetrated with a physical object carrying foreign energy to manipulate the insides, highlighted by Hanami imbuing her CT into real plants thus allowing her to mess with Megumi. Kenjaku also utilizes his body as a domain for the range of his lapsed Anti-gravity CT which saved him from the Black hole.
 
Something physical like telekinesis ?

Can you explain the innate domain ? Is it the mind or CE ?
I don't think telekinesis would qualify. A lightsaber would be a good example for Vader.

An innate domain is a person's consciousness/mind scape and is connected to the soul (as we saw in Mahito vs Sukuna). The body is also a domain. Domains are just parameters for one's existence, which is why the aformentioned both qualify. CT is linked to genetics/the brain, and domain expansions realize a person's mindscape.
 
Prior knowledge is a little irrelevant for Vader. The force is able to warn Vader of danger, so he should be wary of Sukuna from the get-go. Vader will learn about Sukuna through Psychometry and Precog through the Force, assuming the fight is prolonged.

I'm very curious as to how Domains and the Force interacts. The Force is allegedly a transdual, omnipresent energy that Jedi/Sith control, rather than "charge-up" through their bodies like typical shonen battle energy systems (I know nothing about JJK's energy system, please be nice to me!!).

Is Sukuna able to isolate Vader from the force?

Edit: The force is also an external energy, rather than an internal one, with an endless supply at Vader's disposal-- without the need to channel it or "draw it in" to his body. I also want to point out that Vader is still limited by his stamina, so using the force can cause strain.
 
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I don't think telekinesis would qualify. A lightsaber would be a good example for Vader.
Why?
An innate domain is a person's consciousness/mind scape and is connected to the soul (as we saw in Mahito vs Sukuna). The body is also a domain. Domains are just parameters for one's existence, which is why the aformentioned both qualify. CT is linked to genetics/the brain, and domain expansions realize a person's mindscape.
Which mean anyone who can manipulate the inside of a sentient being can bypass their domain. It's like having matter manipulation that doesn't work on living being or someone with a soul like Eve(Invincible), that is just a weakness.
 
Why?

Which mean anyone who can manipulate the inside of a sentient being can bypass their domain. It's like having matter manipulation that doesn't work on living being or someone with a soul like Eve(Invincible), that is just a weakness.
Because telekinesis comes from Darth vader's use of the force, which would count as an outside energy system?

No it doesn't. No one in star wars body is a domain. That's a specific function of the JJK verse, which means it's just a layer of resistance other verses don't have.
 
No it doesn't. No one in star wars body is a domain. That's a specific function of the JJK verse, which means it's just a layer of resistance other verses don't have.
I suppose this means outsiders don't get any Curse energy related attribute
 
No one in star wars body is a domain. That's a specific function of the JJK verse
No, it's just come with having a mind, the same way we consider every living being to have a lifeforce, or Bleach spiritual energy and pressure working outside the verse although souls aren't made from energy.

The domain is not unique to sorcerers it's something that every sentient being have.
 
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No, it's just come with having a mind, the same way we consider every living being to have a lifeforce or Bleach spiritual energy and pressure working outside the verse although souls aren't made from energy.
The domain is not unique to sorcerers it's solething that every sentient being have.
In JJK the body and conscious are domains. In this verse, they gain resistance to things intruding upon their domain (the body specifically resisting things trying to spawn inside of it). That doesn't mean that equalizes to everyone else in other verses. This is a basic powerscaling concept my guy.
 
Then every Domain Expansion except Sukuna's is useless outside JJK.
Bro what are you even talking about. A body domain is still made of matter. Innate domains and by extension, domain expansions are a mix of subjective reality and soul/mind manip. JJK characters don't lose that in cross verses lmao, it's apart of the verse ontology and powers.

That's like me arguing that Vader loses all of his force amps outside of star wars. Which would pretty much make him a heavily disabled man who will die once his suit is damaged, something Sukuna could just do with pure physical strength.
 
Then every Domain Expansion except Sukuna's is useless outside JJK.
Okay but why
Can we get any explanation on these
Precognition/Prescience, Clairvoyance,
Enhanced Senses and Perception,
All things listed here are entirely the force in and of itself. Also SW profiles are outdated and dogsh--

On a more serious note, Precog/Presci is from being able to detect danger before it occurs via the force. Clairvoyance is from being able to see the future, but afaik it's debatable whether it's combat applicable because it's mostly used in the series as a plot device. Everything else is from being able to sense emotions of sadness/hatred/malice/etc in the force, through the force, which autonomously alerts the user moments before something happens.

Simply put, it's sort of a modified spidey-sense that applies to a galaxy-wide scale (Such as Obi-wan being able to sense people's death cries during destruction of Alderaan from across the galaxy). Rebels and Ahsoka elaborates on range further, but that's another can of worms I dont wanna open Save me, revisions-chan

Some of the more important things that are missing is Precog Neg, which applies when vader's in CQC.
Because telekinesis comes from Darth vader's use of the force, which would count as an outside energy system?
Yep!
 
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Would Vader's peecog help him against cleave and dismantle? Force users can sense invisible things afterall



Disney Vader should be High 7-C /6-C or even 6-A if you buy the asteroid stuff from HR
 
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