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I dont think vader has anything against saitama, even with the suppose lightspeed reaction, we don't know if Saitama can surpas it. I will say that Saitama has no limits, so he win
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Vader has mind control. Vader can close his windpipe.Regionfuego said:I dont think vader has anything against saitama, even with the suppose lightspeed reaction, we don't know if Saitama can surpas it. I will say that Saitama has no limits, so he wi
than add a "for now" to the victorys...Regionfuego said:I dont think vader has anything against saitama, even with the suppose lightspeed reaction, we don't know if Saitama can surpas it. I will say that Saitama has no limits, so he wi
That easy for Vader. It's a done deal who wins this and it is Vader, hands down.GreatestSin said:than add a "for now" to the victorys...Regionfuego said:I dont think vader has anything against saitama, even with the suppose lightspeed reaction, we don't know if Saitama can surpas it. I will say that Saitama has no limits, so he wi
but drellix also said it, vader can kill saitama via windpipe closing :I
Um...My friend, I thought he punched that meteor, and didn't tank it.ChoseUsername said:......... mans I am tired, someone can explain that if you tank a meteor without being demaged you can't be hurt with telekinetic?
That's actually harder to do, because you have to add his force to the meoteor's.Drellix said:Um...My friend, I thought he punched that meteor, and didn't tank it.ChoseUsername said:......... mans I am tired, someone can explain that if you tank a meteor without being demaged you can't be hurt with telekinetic?
Um. No. I'll tear apart your argument here.Tabulasmaragdina said:Also, it was already explained in the series that Saitama has enough will do resists mind control, none was able to force to do nothing via telekinesis (he resisted the most powerful user in the galaxy who was capable of altering gravity), and has punched through a energy attack that was the equivalent of a Death Star shooting at you. And even with that, he was capable of killing an enemy with an insane regen factor.
What Vader can do against a guy who can destroy the planet with one punch and move FTL?
Lmao!! Saitama is not FTL!! He's sub revalistic!!Tabulasmaragdina said:That's actually harder to do, because you have to add his force to the meoteor's.Drellix said:Um...My friend, I thought he punched that meteor, and didn't tank it.ChoseUsername said:......... mans I am tired, someone can explain that if you tank a meteor without being demaged you can't be hurt with telekinetic?
Also, it was already explained in the series that Saitama has enough will do resists mind control, none was able to force to do nothing via telekinesis (he resisted the most powerful user in the galaxy who was capable of altering gravity), and has punched through a energy attack that was the equivalent of a Death Star shooting at you. And even with that, he was capable of killing an enemy with an insane regen factor.
What Vader can do against a guy who can destroy the planet with one punch and move FTL?
As it was mentioned in the webcomic, Tornado was trying to manipulate his spirit with her pyschic powers and failed to do so.GreatestSin said:@Aparajita saitama never resisted mind-control, in fact he never encountered a enemy who was able to do that, he resisted getting blown into bits by tornados telekinesis...
Not sure thats how it works....ChoseUsername said:You seems to forget the physics point, Vader to close Saitama wind pipe he actually has to use telekinetic PRESSION on his throat, but the pression saitama has actually resisted it's immensely highter.
Vader can try to close his throat but it will not work because saitama muscles are far stronger of his telekinetic power.
The same pression of his punches hitting the air that are capable of vaporizing a muntain is highter than the pression of Vader telekinetic on his throat.
It took more than 1 punch to kill boros because he didn't want to kill him, Saitama countained his own force to give boros a dignified fight, but at the end yes boros was killed with one punch perfeclty in line with the story, and yes his serius punch is supposed to be OR multi continental OR at planetary level OR more.Aparajita said:2nd. The "energy attack" is calced at Multi Continental. Saitama cannot planet bust in a single attack. It took more than 1 punch to kill Boros, and speculation does not equal a debate on this site.
Force is a physics power, it's not magick, it's clearly said that force choke works like telekinetic, and saitama tanked a telekinetic power comparable to a black hole.. either he seems not to notice changes in gravity in that moment.. so it's ALL about pressure.SomebodyData said:Not sure thats how it works....
Anyways shown by the fight with Boros, he can stand the lack of air for a while, so its not as effective as one thinks
Infact i said it before the only thing on witch saitama can be attacked it's vader's control willing power, but so vader start with controlling his mind but if it didn't work vader will die. Vader has only a chance, and there is the possibility that even with that it will not work .Drellix said:Vader is 80% sidious. Sidious mind Raped trillions including the Jedi. All that focused on Santana makes him Vaders bitch.
Scans showing Saitama resisting Telepathy, not Telekinesis please?ChoseUsername said:Infact i said it before the only thing on witch saitama can be attacked it's vader's control willing power, but so vader start with controlling his mind but if it didn't work vader will die. Vader has only a chance, and there is the possibility that even with that it will not work .Drellix said:Vader is 80% sidious. Sidious mind Raped trillions including the Jedi. All that focused on Santana makes him Vaders bitch.
I think 3/4 winnig for saitama.
You got that backwards with Saitama being faster then Vader when its Vader that is actually faster then he is.Lawyerr said:Saitama has casually shown feats that would one-shot Vador.
Not to mention he has dealt with telekentics before, which even the strongest haven't been able to budge him. And he's not even fighting back against them, letting them hammar on him without any reprecussion.
Saitama pretty much wrecks, Vader isn't going to be able to beat him while dealing with someone who is stronger, faster and more durable, who has shown resistance to TK.
Vador tries to use his lightsaber, dies. Vador opens up with the force, dies.
I never saw darth vader going to speed of light level, maybe his combat skills and reflex are at SoL, however the medium distance earth-moon is 384.403 km if we consider the time that he jumped until he reach earth (2/3 seconds) we can say PROBABLY that his speed is between 130 000 km/h and 190 000 km/h (maybe highter), in other words his speed is between 25% and 65% of speed of light however highter than 5%/10%HeroicDefender97 said:You got that backwards with Saitama being faster then Vader when its Vader that is actually faster then he is.
Saitama's speed is only is only Sub-Relativistic+ which is calulated to be (5%-10% SoL)
Where is as Vader's speed is Relativistic+ which is estimated to be (50%-100% SoL)
And combine Vader's Force + Precognition with his Relativistic speed which makes him move at Lightspeed levels. Saitama won't be touching Vader 50% of the time.
It's not telekinesis...Aparajita said:That is telekinesis, not telepathyVader is 80% of Sidious according to This novel, which is canon.
Sidious is able to mentally dominate "millions or billions" in this book
There is nothing to suggest that Saitama can withstand that.
Kharaa said:You guys might have missed this, but the entire expanded universe was decanonized, for star wars with disney's acquisition of the franchise. Only the 7 movies and the clone wars series are canon at the moment. Saitama stomps vader by a million miles. Even with vader's force abilities, such as pinching off his airway with force choke. (he was shown to have incredible durability in which he hits an asteroid at reentry speeds and destroys most of the mass of the asteroid with a punch) would not phase him very much at all, as shown by his calmness and non-panicking while being punched in to a vaccum. a normal human being can hold their breath for several minutes. Saitama's actual speed is super fast, as shown by the fact that he jumps from the moon to earth in a few seconds, and several fights show him moving so fast that he seemlingly teleports (not indifferent to DBZ or Bleach). His punch is so strong that the air disturbance can tunnel out a mountain. And that was just with him playing with Genos, he wasn't taking the fight seriously, even against Boros it's shown that he didn't even go all out. Vader's force abilities require line of sight, and can be resisted, they seem to be of use against weaker willed people. it's a completely different catagory of power.
There is no way vader wins this without significant bias, using only true canon material.
Why does it matter if the EU is decanonized?Kharaa said:You guys might have missed this, but the entire expanded universe was decanonized, for star wars with disney's acquisition of the franchise. Only the 7 movies and the clone wars series are canon at the moment. Saitama stomps vader by a million miles. Even with vader's force abilities, such as pinching off his airway with force choke. (he was shown to have incredible durability in which he hits an asteroid at reentry speeds and destroys most of the mass of the asteroid with a punch) would not phase him very much at all, as shown by his calmness and non-panicking while being punched in to a vaccum. a normal human being can hold their breath for several minutes. Saitama's actual speed is super fast, as shown by the fact that he jumps from the moon to earth in a few seconds, and several fights show him moving so fast that he seemlingly teleports (not indifferent to DBZ or Bleach). His punch is so strong that the air disturbance can tunnel out a mountain. And that was just with him playing with Genos, he wasn't taking the fight seriously, even against Boros it's shown that he didn't even go all out. Vader's force abilities require line of sight, and can be resisted, they seem to be of use against weaker willed people. it's a completely different catagory of power.
There is no way vader wins this without significant bias, using only true canon material.
Why does it matter if the EU is decanonized?HeroicDefender97 said:There is no way vader wins this without significant bias, using only true canon material.
Literally this, Heroic. Can't beat EU Vader, so resort to the "it's not canon" logic.Aparajita said:Why does it matter if the EU is decanonized?HeroicDefender97 said:There is no way vader wins this without significant bias, using only true canon material.
It sounds like you are just saying that cause you want Vader to be weak as hell so that Saitama can win