D&D Adventurer WIP Blog Pt. III

[Mr. Bambu]

HOLY SHIT

ACERERAK IS JUST AN INTERNET TROLL

YES

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Also just to concrete Acererak's "At least High 6-A" rating, he has an Atropal as a subject that's all hooked up in his labs.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I enjoy the fact that an Atropal is somehow as strong as an Infernal despite having stubby arms

 

[Mr. Bambu]

D&D: Progenitor of Dead Baby Jokes.

Also, while I'm doing this, I'm probably gonna look into Artus Climber, since he's a relatively big-deal adventurer tied to the Tomb of the Nine Gods. He's a Harper that became a Chosen bu Auril.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Huh... I never noticed but a Atropal is also given the same INT rating as an Elder Brain (28). Gods are to OP man if their babies are that smart.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I enjoy the fact that an Atropal is somehow as strong as an Infernal despite having stubby arms

God left him unfinished, but that doesn't stop him from finishing you.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Oh right, while you're still here would you mind telling if any of these statements would support the Far Realm being 1-A without scaling to Mystara? I know that (while rare) its technically possible for something to be Outerversal without the lower dimensional space having infinite dimensions

Well I'll just make some bullet points here for the Far Realm

• Far Realm is beyond time I guess 2
• Some entites in the Far Realm are as strong as Deities 1 2 3
• Typically stated as being above the normal cosmology: 1 2 3
• Sages theorizes that the strongest of the Elder Evils are responsible for the Far Realm's existence
• Yog-Sothoth Bolothamogg is the embodiment of nothingness or something
• Far Realm is stated as being the end point of existence and on the edge of time and space
• I think its called timeless here but I can't be sure
• Warlocks form packs with Far Realm things to overcome matter and space(?)

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I think this is more stuff that supports the Far Realm being completely beyond the normal cosmology, which helps suggest it's 1-A when scaling from Mystara. This would be too vague to be 1-A on its own without the Mystara statements.

Dammit, the "things that created the Far Realm" statement would be really nice if it was flat out confirmed as opposed to being something that "modern sages theorize". Could have found some stuff that actually scales to it.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Dang, that's what worried about. I don't find anything wrong with scaling it to Mystara since only really one person gets effected by this and he already scales to both franchises (in fact even without the Far Realm I found evidence of Lumi being 1-A anyways), I was just hoping for less cross scaling.

Dammit, the "things that created the Far Realm" statement would be really nice if it was flat out confirmed as opposed to being something that "modern sages theorize". Could have found some stuff that actually scales to it.

Wouldn't it be possible to get Tier 0 scaling for the Luminous Being if they were 1-A?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

It wouldn't contradict it, and it would definitely be possible, but it would depend entirely on how he's portrayed (in the brief instances he actually is).

Tier 0 can be hard to define without proper context of an individual verse itself.

 

[Qawsedf234]

True. His two instances of existence are one paragraph with Ao and one paragraph of watching the Old Ones

One fact remains for you, as Dungeon Master, to decide. Who are the Old Ones? Are they indeed the greatest and most powerful beings of all? Or perhaps, as they wait secure in their power, do even the Old Ones naively fail to see the most obvious fact of all? Can they really believe that no higher Being watches them?

One who also watches... and waits...

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Acererak's profile is largely done, read through 5e and 3.5e's writeups for the adventure; 1e doesn't seem to offer much else and others weren't readily available

 

[Qawsedf234]

If you give me some time I can finish up the profile for the Atropal and post that so you can link those in the profile. I guess I can also post the Phaethon as well.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Sure, go for it. While you're on that I'm gonna look into our good friend Artus Climber.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

I just noticed that in Acererak's 5e stat block, he has at will counterspell.

In aarakocra culture, this is considered a dick move.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Artus tier seems pretty weird. While he holds a relic of great power, his best feats seem to be solidly High 8-C.

Firstly, the ring was used to repel a bunch of typical undead and couatls, CR 10 creatures by 3.5e's reckoning (well within High 8-C barriers)

Secondly, he is shown to be comparable to a guy named Dragonbait who is... well. A dragon who I guess is bait. Anyways, Dragonbait is a CR 11 creature by 3.5e's reckoning.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Wow Volo's Guide just decided to **** with me by giving me a creature with a description that consists primarily of "this might be 6-C but we'll basically do everything in our power to not flat-out confirm it".

 

[Qawsedf234]

Ah, the best part about DnD. Where they give you a neat statement then does everything in its power to make you question said statement.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Phaetho, Atropal , and the Infernal has been created. I'll be working on the Phane and the One Hundred Hander next (also the Infernal took forever to classify due to how many powers he had)

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Seriously, the morkoth entry consists mostly of stuff like:

• the morkoth owns an island.

• the morkoth can learn to move its island so that it doesn't drift randomly throughout the cosmos.

• the morkoth can protect its island from the outside influence of other planes, including places like the Nine Hells.

• the morkoth can control and regulate the climate of its island.

• the morkoth can "invoke the ambient magic of the island".

• the island is "warped by the creature's presence".

• the morkoth is so connected to the island it is aware of every new arrival, be it creature or object.

• the morkoth can alter the composition of all water on the island.

This is a hilarious tease of "Island level morkoths" without giving us more than a "possibly" due to how vague it is about the morkoth's "control" and warping of the island in general, but how specific it is about certain other effects.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

So if Artus becomes evil he instantly scales to At least 6-B, apparently.

 

[Qawsedf234]

You can post the Demilich profile now btw Bambu. Just remember to link the Atropal

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

By the way, should the atropal have like...an "At least Small City level+" key, or at least changed to something like "Varies from at least Low 7-B to High 6-A"? The average atropal was nerfed to "basically adult dragon level of challenge" in 5e, as opposed to being the kind of thing you'd expect to fight alongside powerful ancient dragons.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Was the Atropal in 5e confirmed to be a true Atropal or a Scion? Because a scion was noted as being an inferior version of the true Atropal that's created when you don't fully kill it. It would also explain the reduced level (The Scion is CR 11 in 3e compared to the 30 of the true form).

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Scion might be the base in 5e, but I'd have to check.

Would actually be a buff for the Scion though, which is nice.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yeah actually. Its the same CR as what we use for Dragons right?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Yeah, same CR as the dragons who passively caused the Low 7-B feats.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Wait what, I never noticed this

> Once a soul becomes trapped in the SouJmonger, it's only a matter of time before the atropal devours it. You can determine the status of a trapped soul at dawn on any given day by secretly rolling a d20. On a roll of 2 or higher, the soul remains trapped in the Soulmonger, at least until the next dawn. A roll of 1 indicates that the soul was devoured by the atropal. A creature whose soul is devoured in this horrific manner can't be returned to life by any means, including divine intervention.

That's like, Mid-Godly EE isn't it? Deities can resurrect people from a Sphere of Annihilation but not an Atropal eating their soul

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Yeah, seems like it.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Also, checking Tomb of Annihilatio, the atropal from which those stats are based:

• needed to be fed enough souls to transform into an "evil god".

• does not seem to be considered a challenge beyond the scope of powerful mortals, as killing it brings about the wrath of Acererak, who is explicitly stated to be "far too great a foe for mortal adventurers to overcome" under normal circumstances.

• will grow in power as it feeds, eventually becoming strong enough to control the horde of the undead before it reaches godhood.

So I'm not sure if it's a scion, but it certainly seems "unfinished", even by atropal standards. Still ridiculously powerful by normal creature standards. Acererak wants to turn it into a full dark god because apparently that would be really funny.

 

[Qawsedf234]

So what would I label it as? Existence Erasure up to High-Godly or something?

So I'm not sure if it's a scion, but it certainly seems "unfinished", even by atropal standards. Still ridiculously powerful by normal creature standards.

Hmmm. Maybe we should expand the Scion key to be "At least High 8-C, possibly Low 7-B"? Because a normal Atropal is noted as ruling undead empires and controlling hordes, which that one is incapable of doing.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

That sounds like a proper label.

And yeah, I'd think that sounds like a fair rating, but I'll let Bambu weigh in on it, too.

 

[Qawsedf234]

If he's okay with both suggestions I'll add them then.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

EE and Regen Negation up to Mid-Godly

Which by extension would give Acererak the same thing since he's sorta abusing the Atropal's powers.

Artus Climber is here.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Also if we're lowballing the Atropal it should probably flat out be just Low 7-B if not higher- it does sound like it was unfinished but High 8-C is like CR 9-12

 

[Qawsedf234]

> Lifting Strength: Class 1 (Can push roughly 454 kg)

Whoa he barely edged into that tier.

Also i'll add the powers to the Atropal and start working on the Phane. It has some impressive time hax (as you already know).

 

[Qawsedf234]

Wait, the Phane can not only summon the past version of an enemy @Mr. Bambu, the Phane can summon itself from 6 seconds into the future .

 

[Qawsedf234]

Here's the Phane WIP profile. Tell me if you notice anything out of place. I'm gonna take a break for a bit.

 

[Udlmaster]

Shouldn't the Phane have Infinite speed? As they are Outside of Time?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Its a weird thing. Considering how tied in they are with time due to their parentage I would get a infinite speed rating, but it may be more time-hax than speed in this case. As they have a constant null-time field surrounding them and have over half a dozen time related powers.