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Hello. This thread's purpose IS NOT to upgrade the verse's cosmology rating to Tier 1.
This thread was created to confirm how strong the verse currently is rated and possibly upgrade some characters' Conceptual Manipulation...
I will be using info from this blog. While I acknowledge it probably has some mistakes, it's at least more detailed and overall better than the previous 1-B Maou Gakuin CRT. I would recommend reading the blog before continuing...
From the blog:
A summary for Maou Gakuin's cosmology:
The multiverse (Silver Sea) is comprised of 99+ layers (Each layer possibly having infinite size), with each layer containing countless universes (Worlds), all of which are separate space-time continuums in the shape of bubbles.
Layers 1 to 10 are classified as Shallow Layers. Layers 11 to 20 are classified as Middle Layers. Layers 21+ are classified as Deep Layers.
Those are the classifications when taking the entire multiverse into account. Layer 2 would still be called a deep layer by someone from Layer 1, and Layer 21 would still be called a shallow layer by someone from Layer 22.
The overall "strength", meaning attack potency, durability and speed, as well as the "strength" of laws and concepts from a deep world is at least uncountably greater than that of a shallow world. The difference between layers is directly compared to the difference between dimensions.
Deep layer inhabitants can use shallow universes as shogi pieces, while only the strongest inhabitant of a shallow universe can use their own universe as a shogi piece, though this is only possible with the help of a deep layer inhabitant.
Spells capable of destroying an entire universe (Space-time continuum) from a shallow layer cannot destroy an ordinary object in a deep layer.
Current Cosmology rating:
Currently, all characters with the "Post-Silver Sea" key are at least 21 layers deep in the Silver Sea.
It's been accepted in a previous CRT that all these characters are Low 2-C.
Since they are 21 layers deep in the Silver Sea, and the difference between layers (the overall "strength", meaning attack potency, durability and speed, as well as the "strength" of laws and concepts) is at least uncountable, they would all be rated "Uncountable * 21" in the Low 2-C tier.
Venuzdonoa can destroy all things in creation, regardless of how strong, eternal or infinite they are, which would include the Silver Sea. "True Power" Anos Voldigoad would scale to that, since he's technically superior to Venuzdonoa.
Since both are capable of destroying the Silver Sea, they would be rated "Countless * 100" in the 2-B tier. (100 because 99+ means at least 1 deeper layer is confirmed)
(This won't be added to any profiles. It's only for confirmation)
They also get "Possibly 1-B" because of the difference between layers...
Possible Conceptual Manipulation upgrade:
Please note that I'm not very knowledgeable about the different types of conceptual manipulation.
The order (laws and concepts) in deeper layers are superior to that of shallow layers, so even if you destroy a certain order in a shallow layer, it would still exist in a deeper layer due to the "strength" of order being at least uncountably greater and also independent of what happens in the shallow layer.
This would give characters capable of manipulating concepts in a deeper layer "Conceptual Manipulation Type 2" or "Conceptual Manipulation Type 3, likely Type 2".
**If Conceptual Manipulation Type 2 is not accepted, I have another suggestion.
Characters with the "Post-Silver Sea" key that can manipulate *laws and concepts in a deep layer would be able to overpower 21 layers of resistance, while Venuzdonoa and "True Power" Anos would be able to overpower 100 (99+) layers of resistance to *Law Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation Type 3. (Order = laws and concepts)
Please specify what you agree/disagree with.
This thread was created to confirm how strong the verse currently is rated and possibly upgrade some characters' Conceptual Manipulation...
I will be using info from this blog. While I acknowledge it probably has some mistakes, it's at least more detailed and overall better than the previous 1-B Maou Gakuin CRT. I would recommend reading the blog before continuing...
Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Terminology & Cosmology
vsbattles.fandom.com
From the blog:
A summary for Maou Gakuin's cosmology:
The multiverse (Silver Sea) is comprised of 99+ layers (Each layer possibly having infinite size), with each layer containing countless universes (Worlds), all of which are separate space-time continuums in the shape of bubbles.
Layers 1 to 10 are classified as Shallow Layers. Layers 11 to 20 are classified as Middle Layers. Layers 21+ are classified as Deep Layers.
Those are the classifications when taking the entire multiverse into account. Layer 2 would still be called a deep layer by someone from Layer 1, and Layer 21 would still be called a shallow layer by someone from Layer 22.
The overall "strength", meaning attack potency, durability and speed, as well as the "strength" of laws and concepts from a deep world is at least uncountably greater than that of a shallow world. The difference between layers is directly compared to the difference between dimensions.
Deep layer inhabitants can use shallow universes as shogi pieces, while only the strongest inhabitant of a shallow universe can use their own universe as a shogi piece, though this is only possible with the help of a deep layer inhabitant.
Spells capable of destroying an entire universe (Space-time continuum) from a shallow layer cannot destroy an ordinary object in a deep layer.
Current Cosmology rating:
Currently, all characters with the "Post-Silver Sea" key are at least 21 layers deep in the Silver Sea.
It's been accepted in a previous CRT that all these characters are Low 2-C.
Since they are 21 layers deep in the Silver Sea, and the difference between layers (the overall "strength", meaning attack potency, durability and speed, as well as the "strength" of laws and concepts) is at least uncountable, they would all be rated "Uncountable * 21" in the Low 2-C tier.
Venuzdonoa can destroy all things in creation, regardless of how strong, eternal or infinite they are, which would include the Silver Sea. "True Power" Anos Voldigoad would scale to that, since he's technically superior to Venuzdonoa.
Since both are capable of destroying the Silver Sea, they would be rated "Countless * 100" in the 2-B tier. (100 because 99+ means at least 1 deeper layer is confirmed)
(This won't be added to any profiles. It's only for confirmation)
Possible Conceptual Manipulation upgrade:
Please note that I'm not very knowledgeable about the different types of conceptual manipulation.
The order (laws and concepts) in deeper layers are superior to that of shallow layers, so even if you destroy a certain order in a shallow layer, it would still exist in a deeper layer due to the "strength" of order being at least uncountably greater and also independent of what happens in the shallow layer.
This would give characters capable of manipulating concepts in a deeper layer "Conceptual Manipulation Type 2" or "Conceptual Manipulation Type 3, likely Type 2".
**If Conceptual Manipulation Type 2 is not accepted, I have another suggestion.
Characters with the "Post-Silver Sea" key that can manipulate *laws and concepts in a deep layer would be able to overpower 21 layers of resistance, while Venuzdonoa and "True Power" Anos would be able to overpower 100 (99+) layers of resistance to *Law Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation Type 3. (Order = laws and concepts)
Please specify what you agree/disagree with.
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