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Cell disagrees with you
Fair enough, (even though it doesn't make sense)

You realize that the reason Cell have all of the fighter's abilities is because he have their cells right? Same thing with Doomsday. By absorbing cells from him or absorbing Doomsday whole he'd gain his abilities
Give me one example of Cell absorbing someone and gaining their abilities. Hell, he didn't even gain the Infinite Stamina from the Androids after absorbing them.

The Androids would beg to differ
The Androids are an special case, literally everyone else Cell absorbed was via stabing them.
 
Hell, he didn't even gain the Infinite Stamina from the Androids after absorbing them.
The Androids having infinite stamina isn't a part of their biology, it was an implementation made by Gero. Cell obviously wouldn't gain that because it's not biological, so this point is moot
 
The Androids having infinite stamina isn't a part of their biology, it was an implementation made by Gero. Cell obviously wouldn't gain that because it's not biological, so this point is moot
Okay, give me an example of him gaining abilities by absorbing people.
 
Okay, give me an example of him gaining abilities by absorbing people.
Cell's barrier comes to mind; he used a barrier technique similar to Android 17's after absorbing him, and as far as I remember, Cell has never used a barrier-like technique before absorbing Android 17
 
Cell's barrier comes to mind; he used a barrier technique similar to Android 17's after absorbing him, and as far as I remember, Cell has never used a barrier-like technique before absorbing Android 17
Is it mentioned in the manga that he gained this ability by absorbing 17?
 
Is it mentioned in the manga that he gained this ability by absorbing 17?
No, however, he is explicitly shown to use this technique before, which was in his Perfect Form (aka after absorbing 17). Comes from DBZ Chapter 202
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Well, there's nothing about Cell absorbing abilities on his profile so you will need to make a CRT to change that and then come back to this thread.
 
Doomsday kind of haxstomps. Several stupid abilities Cell doesn't resist, some of which are passive. He has also adapted intelligence before. I really don't see how Cell stands a chance
 
There are a couple of nuances for this fight. Doomsday, despite being a comic book brick who can't even fly, is deceptively versatile at least as far as durability is concerned. He basically tanks any offensive option Cell has to offer but at the same time he has no easily accessible means of killing Cell except for grabbing him with superior lifting strength and bodyslamming him into a star while pummeling him into mulch.

Cell, on the other hand, has way more overt advantages. Since speed is equalized, he handily takes close-quarters combat. He's far smarter and his ability to fly as well as having several ranged options gives him far superior control over the battlefield. One thing I fear people tend to overestimate is Cell's Zenkai boost potential. It's honestly not that great. When Vegeta lasered him in half with the Final Flash he achieved no Zenkai, same with Goku using the IT Kamehameha. DD has no offensive abilities comparable to a DBZ-style laser so any damage he inflicts will likely not result in Cell boosting.

However, this is where I would have to give the edge to Cell. Namely for 2 things: Telepathy and the Spirit Bomb. Since several characters have demonstrated telepathic ability and Goku can straight-up read minds by touching people I feel it's safe to assume Cell could do the same. If Cell were to read DD's mind and learn how his power works, he would know that pure positive energy is something he's never survived before (AFAIK). So that's a much more accessible win condition.

Given Cell's superior intelligence and MUCH more versatile ability set I find it much more likely he would do this before DD could take him to a star.
Also D-Day resists telepathy it says so on his profile. So Cell has intelligence and nothing else
 
Cell is obviously not pure of heart as Goku, therefore he won't be able to use the technique. Besides, Doomsday has resisted Telepathy before.
I've been ninja'd but just to elaborate Cell said he could do it and almost every fighting game of DBZ has a variant of him using the technique. It's tertiary levels of evidence at best but it's just further acknowledgment that the developers of Dragon Ball, at least, believe he can use it and that this logic isn't the result of headcanon.
 
Does Doomsday have any cells or DNA for Cell to absorb at all?

And could his tail actually be capable of stabbing his skin too?
 
Even if Cell can use the Spirit Bomb, it's completely out of character for him to use this technique. He has never used the Spirit Bomb in canon.
 
By absorbing his cells/absorbing him? Cell would also gain Doomsday abilities because that's literally how Cell works. The reason he has all the abilities from different fighters is because he has their DNA
except that Cell was previously created with those Cells, but you have a point
 
That I know of, we don't have any evidence to support that Cell could gain the abilities of beings that aren't designed to be a part of him. Absorbing bio-mass from people to become stronger, that was in his design. Absorbing the androids to become perfect, all there in his design. Absorbing a creature that has no purpose in his blueprints... That's a whole other story. One that would need a CRT for people to believe, I think.
 
Ok, so: Doomsday has way better RE, resistance to nearly all Cell's abilities, better LS and the only 2 wincon Cell has are abilities he has never used in character.

Plus Doomsday is seemingly 500+ times stronger.

Doomsday stomps hard
Apparently the 500+ times thing is wrong and Doomsday is actually weaker than Cell.
I thought they changed this to the base value of 1 KiloFoe
Also, Cell has used absorption in character...?

What wincons does Doomsday stomp with because I'm not seeing any on his profile.
 
Cell only used absorption against fodder humans and androids, which were the ones he was suposed to absorb. He never used absorption against other warriors such as Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Piccolo, etc.

And Attack Reflection, Absorption, Power Nullification and Reactive Evolution are enough to neg Cell.

Edit: He used it on Piccolo once when he was imperfect. But the point of him not using it on his perfect form even against enemies stronger than him (such as Gohan) is still valid, let alone someone who's supposedly weaker than him
 
Cell only used absorption against fodder humans and androids, which were the ones he was suposed to absorb. He never used absorption against other warriors such as Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Piccolo, etc.
So we agree that he used absorption many times in canon? It doesn't matter if he didn't use it every time he could have, it's something that he'll attempt eventually.
And Attack Reflection,
Attack reflection is putting Cell down how?
Absorption,
Absorption of energy, it's not a wincon.
Power Nullification
Power Nullification isn't doing anything to put Cell down.
and Reactive Evolution are enough to neg Cell.
Reactive Evolution isn't doing anything to put Cell down.

None of those abilities you listed are even wincons...they're just things that Doomsday has.
 
So we agree that he used absorption many times in canon? It doesn't matter if he didn't use it every time he could have, it's something that he'll attempt eventually.
Yep, on his imperfect form. On his perfect form he's arrogant and don't use it even when the enemy stomps him.
Attack reflection is putting Cell down how?
Reflecting all his attacks back and leaving Doomsday the oportunity to defeat him easily?
Absorption of energy, it's not a wincon.
Again, pulls his attacks down
Power Nullification isn't doing anything to put Cell down.
Nullify his attacks?
Reactive Evolution isn't doing anything to put Cell down.
Give Doomsday an ability to counter all Cell has?
 
Yep, on his imperfect form. On his perfect form he's arrogant and don't use it even when the enemy stomps him.
Trying to separate his character by forms because you can't think of a way of legitimately countering Cell's absorption is weak, Perfect Cell's intent was to have a martial arts tournament, not absorb people, he's factually absorbed people half a dozen times in the manga and he'll eventually do it here if he runs out of options.
Reflecting all his attacks back and leaving Doomsday the oportunity to defeat him easily?
Again, pulls his attacks down
Nullify his attacks?
Give Doomsday an ability to counter all Cell has?
These aren't wincons, they're just random abilities Doomsday has.

I'm asking you, what ability does Doomsday use that can incap or kill Cell?
 
Trying to separate his character by forms because you can't think of a way of legitimately countering Cell's absorption is weak, Perfect Cell's intent was to have a martial arts tournament, not absorb people, he's factually absorbed people half a dozen times in the manga and he'll eventually do it here if he runs out of options.
Trying to separate a character in forms is something that should pretty obviously be done. All characters do not share the same character when they are in one form as they do when they are in other.

And Cell's the case of that: on his first and second form, he was trying to get more powerful to become perfect, as consequence, he uses his absorption and tricks to become stronger.

On his third form, he's arrogant of his all powerful abilities. He's interested in fights due to his Saiyan cells, he's confident enough to let Gohan power up getting stomped in consequence and even when he was clearly dominated by Gohan he didn't use absorption even once. Why would this case be different?
These aren't wincons, they're just random abilities Doomsday has.

I'm asking you, what ability does Doomsday use that can incap or kill Cell?
Ok, so Doomsday reflecting back Cell's ranged attacks, nullifying or absorbing his attacks plus he getting abilities to explicitely defeat Cell are not abilities that could be used to defeat Cell. Good to know
 
Trying to separate a character in forms is something that should pretty obviously be done. All characters do not share the same character when they are in one form as they do when they are in other.

And Cell's the case of that: on his first and second form, he was trying to get more powerful to become perfect, as consequence, he uses his absorption and tricks to become stronger.
You're trying to treat it like he's a completely different character in his various forms which is wrong, Cell is Cell, his goal and intent changed between forms sure but he has has the same abilities and there's no reason to assume he wouldn't use them when he's got nothing else left to use. Absorption is getting used eventually and when it does it's over for Doomsday who can't counter it at all.
On his third form, he's arrogant of his all powerful abilities. He's interested in fights due to his Saiyan cells, he's confident enough to let Gohan power up getting stomped in consequence and even when he was clearly dominated by Gohan he didn't use absorption even once. Why would this case be different?
The only time Cell would have had the desire to attempt to absorb Gohan was when he was losing, but he decided to use self-destruct instead, which he'd probably do here against Doomsday, and then he'll regenerate and see it did nothing and use whatever else he has such as absorption.

The thing is that Doomsday has nothing to put Cell down with, so Cell has literally all the time in the world to empty his entire kit against Doomsday, everything, and there's not a single reason to believe otherwise.
Ok, so Doomsday reflecting back Cell's ranged attacks, nullifying or absorbing his attacks plus he getting abilities to explicitely defeat Cell are not abilities that could be used to defeat Cell. Good to know
Right because Cell's just going to sit there firing attacks at Doomsday after he sees that they're getting reflected...funny as Doomsday's the idiot and Cell's the genius in this fight.

But even if Cell does that comically unlikely thing, Cell's generic attacks can't even put himself down, he'd need to fire a full-power Kamehameha at Doomsday and let that get reflected back at his head for there to even be a chance of this, as we see Goku use a point blank Kamehameha that vaporized Cell's entire head and yet he still regenerated.
 
except that Cell was previously created with those Cells, but you have a point
Cell was able to pick up new techniques he didn't had before thanks to battling with people such as Goku. That's how he got IT as well.

Besides, the reason why the abilities were there is precisely because he was created with their cells. But Cell has shown that he can add more cells to his genetic material and evolve that way when he absorbed the humans
 
Cell was able to pick up new techniques he didn't had before thanks to battling with people such as Goku. That's how he got IT as well.
He copied IT because Goku teleported his body to King Kai's Planet, just before he self-destructed.

Cell has shown that he can add more cells to his genetic material and evolve that way when he absorbed the humans
Stop lying, this has never happened in canon...

So we agree that he used absorption many times in canon? It doesn't matter if he didn't use it every time he could have, it's something that he'll attempt eventually.
True, he used it against Piccolo once... It didn't work, and it won't work on Doomsday either. He will evolve to make his skin more durable and impossible to stab.
 
True, he used it against Piccolo once... It didn't work, and it won't work on Doomsday either. He will evolve to make his skin more durable and impossible to stab.
Yes it did. Piccolo just regenerated from it, and Cell only need one stab to take Doomsday's DNA
 
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