Cell (Dragon Ball) vs Doomsday (Post-Crisis) (4-1-1)

[DivineAura44]

Then i guess Cell can become perfect just by absorbing people... oh no, he can't do that. He can only become perfect by absorbing the Androids.

Trying to find how this at all attacks his point.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

What about it? That's not a genetic ability of Android 17's.

Neither is the Kamehameha yet Cell knows it despite not learning it from anyone before. Neither is IT as well or any of the battle technique they used. This is irrelevant since Cell will have access to the ability if the Z fighters learned it

 

[Axl233]

Doomsday can just use his breath attack once and atomize Cell cause of the AP difference

And it doesn't take that much to negate his regen,Gohan was just a slighty stronger and was able to do the job.

 

[Vizer04]

1. How is "Why tf are you trying to debate me?" toxic

The purpose of a discussion thread is literally to debate...

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Anyway for being wrong purgy

I Kamen rider hoshimachi suisei will decide your fate. Aka be purged from this thread.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Then i guess Cell can become perfect just by absorbing people... oh no, he can't do that. He can only become perfect by absorbing the Androids.

Absorption is still absorption regardless. It's just that he needed these Androids specifically to become Perfect

 

[DivineAura44]

The purpose of a discussion thread is literally to debate...

But I never contested on that point.

 

[Vizer04]

But I never contested on that point.

You said that Cell could absorb DNA which is completely and utterly false.

 

[Axl233]

Scan for this?

the fact that his tail retracted once he becamed perfect.

 

[Purgy]

Doomsday can just use his breath attack once and atomize Cell cause of the AP difference

And it doesn't take that much to negate his regen,Gohan was just a slighty stronger and was able to do the job.

According to what someone said earlier in this thread, Doomsday scales to the 1.08 KiloFoe value and not the 0.61 MegaFoe one, making them almost equal in AP.

 

[DivineAura44]

You said that Cell could absorb DNA which is completely and utterly false.

For what purpose are you actively lying???

 

[Purgy]

the fact that his tail retracted once he becamed perfect.

That's called headcanon, and Cell can manipulate the size and shape of his tail as he does many times.

Regardless, make a CRT if you think that because his profile doesn't exclude the ability from his Perfect key.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

now you guys maybe wondering how this is relevant to the thread well it’s because @Purgy and @DivineAura44 are both wrong on this thread.

so I have a dream and that’s to purge them from this thread.

 

[Vizer04]

So how do you explain the Android barrier?

Who said that it's the same barrier of 17? They could be similar techniques, like the Kamehameha and the Galick Gun.

 

[Magicomethkuon]

now you guys maybe wondering how this is relevant to the thread well it’s because @Purgy and @DivineAura44 are both wrong on this thread.

so I have a dream and that’s to purge them from this thread.

But you better have brought the piano.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

That's called headcanon, and Cell can manipulate the size and shape of his tail as he does many times.

Regardless, make a CRT if you think that because his profile doesn't exclude the ability from his Perfect key.

Cell said he doesn't need to absorb more humans, not that he can't do it anymore, so it implies he can still do it if he wishes to (and side material + anime outright confirms this)

 

[Vizer04]

That's called headcanon, and Cell can manipulate the size and shape of his tail as he does many times.

Regardless, make a CRT if you think that because his profile doesn't exclude the ability from his Perfect key.

You are the one who needs to make a CRT...

 

[DivineAura44]

now you guys maybe wondering how this is relevant to the thread well it’s because @Purgy and @DivineAura44 are both wrong on this thread.

so I have a dream and that’s to purge them from this thread.

Getting attacked for no reason at all. How fun

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

But you better have brought the piano.

Seven page pokemon plays

 

[Purgy]

You are the one who needs to make a CRT...

I need to make a CRT for something that's already on his profile? Since when?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Who said that it's the same barrier of 17? They could be similar techniques, like the Kamehameha and the Galick Gun.

The shield is pretty much identical to 17's, and their stance is the same as well. Unlike the clear difference between Kamehameha and Galick Gun

 

[Vizer04]

Getting attacked for no reason at all. How fun

How is that attacking? It's just a joke, you're so easily offended yet you're so quick to use the f word...

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Getting attacked for no reason at all. How fun

Well my avatar picture is hoshimachi suisei cosplaying as Kamen rider meteor and his catchphrase is “Kamen Rider Meteor! I will decide your fate!”


I have decided purgy and divines fates, they are wrong and must be purged from the thread. That is their fate

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

you're so easily offended yet you're s quick to use the f word...

???????????

How do these things correlate ayy lmao

 

[Magicomethkuon]

So how do you explain the Android barrier?

17 was designed to be absorbed for Cell to achieve his perfect form, it's not strange for him to display similar abilities. However, Cell has never displayed a capability to use talents from humans that he absorbed bio-mass from. All that does is give him an increase in power level.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

But you better have brought the piano.

Actually here

 

[DivineAura44]

How is that attacking? It's just a joke, you're so easily offended yet you're s quick to use the f word...

1. How did I at all come of as offended?
2. It's attacking as it is a statement opposing me. I never said they did anything wrong or that they should stop I simply made a joking remark about how I was dragged into this mess for no reason.
3. If you count tf as the f word you just said the f word. You do see how dumb that logic is, right? Why are you so quit to try to portray me in a negative light? I've never once tried to do anything remotely similar.

 

[DivineAura44]

???????????

How do these things correlate ayy lmao

Ay Leph, lemme know if I'm in the wrong here I'll stop immediately because this is crazy to me

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Well then,
Setting the absolute clusterfuck of the dna bs aside

The real question is how the **** is Doomsday putting Cell permanently down.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Ay Leph, lemme know if I'm in the wrong here I'll stop immediately because this is crazy to me

Nah, you cool. I think they are so invested on the dna thing they have failed to properly read your points.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

17 was designed to be absorbed for Cell to achieve his perfect form, it's not strange for him to display similar abilities. However, Cell has never displayed a capability to use talents from humans that he absorbed bio-mass from. All that does is give him an increase in power level.

Then explain why Imperfect Cell couldn't have used 17's technique and Cell was only able to do it after absorbing 17

 

[DivineAura44]

Well then,
Setting the absolute clusterfuck of the dna bs aside

The real question is how the **** is Doomsday putting Cell permanently down.

Well I see Lunge saying Doomsday would adapt and gain an ability and the only other argument I've seen was incon.

 

[Vizer04]

Then explain why Imperfect Cell couldn't have used 17's technique and Cell was only able to do it after absorbing 17

He actually was able to use it, it's just that there wasn't any reason to.

 

[Magicomethkuon]

Then explain why Imperfect Cell couldn't have used 17's technique and Cell was only able to do it after absorbing 17

But... The reply that you quoted when posting this already did that.

 

[Purgy]

The Androids are literally humans with some mechanical modifications...if Cell can absorb them through his tail there's no reason to believe he can't do the same to other organic beings.

Also, again, it's on Cell's profile that he can suck people into his tail for full absorption

He can absorb others with his tail, either by stabbing them with it to absorb their ki / energy and all of their organic matter, or engulfing them with it to fully absorb them. He also stated that he could probably use the Spirit Bomb

So either A. Stop arguing otherwise or B. Make a CRT to have it only apply to the Androids

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Well I see Lunge saying Doomsday would adapt and gain an ability and the only other argument I've seen was incon.

I mean, he technically could develop the ability to use ki. But that means nothing, really. Because we don't accept ki having the property to disintegrate a target completely by default, Doomsday would need to become vastly stronger than Cell... Which in turn means Cell keeps growing stronger thanks to Saiyan bs.

So yeah, if Cell liquifying Doomsday to absorb is properly countered, I myself would have to say is incon.

 

[Vizer04]

The Androids are literally humans with some mechanical modifications...if Cell can absorb them through his tail there's no reason to believe he can't do the same to other organic beings.

Also, again, it's on Cell's profile that he can suck people into his tail for full absorption

So either A. Stop arguing otherwise or B. Make a CRT to have it only apply to the Androids

You make a CRT to have him absorb DNA

 

[Purgy]

You make a CRT to have him absorb DNA

I never made that claim so why would I do that?

 

[Vizer04]

I never made that claim so why would I do that?

Sorry, Gilad should make it then

 

[Knifeman29]

I vote doomsday cause hes hotter.

seriously tho. i dont read much on doomsday. but i think accelerated development could be a problem for cell.