Cell (Dragon Ball) vs Doomsday (Post-Crisis) (4-1-1)

[Unwanteduser48]

Super Perfect Cell is used
4B key is used and speed is equalized

Cell: 4 (@Gilad_Hyperstar, @Mirai-Koichi, @Purgy and @jojo123)
Doomsday: 1 (@XXKINGXX69)
Inconclusive: 1 (@Vizer04)

 

[Unwanteduser48]

Bump.

 

[Unwanteduser48]

Bump.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

After looking at their profiles cell could pull of a win through BFR.

but the regeneration and reactive evolution of Doomsday is going to be a big problem.

 

[Unwanteduser48]

Bump.

 

[Quantu]

Relax with the bumping, keep it to at most one every 8 hours or so.

 

[Unwanteduser48]

but the regeneration and reactive evolution of Doomsday is going to be a big problem.

Cell also has those too, he possesses Saiyan DNA so he can get Zenkai boast after being "killed" by regenerating

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Cell also has those too, he possesses Saiyan DNA so he can get Zenkai boast after being "killed" by regenerating

Who says doomsday won’t adapt to that and bypass it

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

So Doomsday negates almost all of Cell's Wincons through adaptation, Power mimicry and energy absorption.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

So Doomsday negates almost all of Cell's Wincons through adaptation, Power mimicry and energy absorption.

he is one tough son of a bitch to kill oliver.

how do we stop him?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

he is one tough son of a bitch to kill oliver.

how do we stop him?

We can't

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

We can't

if we throw him into the end of the universe we can.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

if we throw him into the end of the universe we can.

Yeah, until someone tries to save him but end as a fool

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Yeah, until someone tries to save him but end as a fool

Plot hax saves the day

but yeah this match is a stomp isn’t it?

 

[Unwanteduser48]

Bump.

 

[Mirai-Koichi]

There are a couple of nuances for this fight. Doomsday, despite being a comic book brick who can't even fly, is deceptively versatile at least as far as durability is concerned. He basically tanks any offensive option Cell has to offer but at the same time he has no easily accessible means of killing Cell except for grabbing him with superior lifting strength and bodyslamming him into a star while pummeling him into mulch.

Cell, on the other hand, has way more overt advantages. Since speed is equalized, he handily takes close-quarters combat. He's far smarter and his ability to fly as well as having several ranged options gives him far superior control over the battlefield. One thing I fear people tend to overestimate is Cell's Zenkai boost potential. It's honestly not that great. When Vegeta lasered him in half with the Final Flash he achieved no Zenkai, same with Goku using the IT Kamehameha. DD has no offensive abilities comparable to a DBZ-style laser so any damage he inflicts will likely not result in Cell boosting.

However, this is where I would have to give the edge to Cell. Namely for 2 things: Telepathy and the Spirit Bomb. Since several characters have demonstrated telepathic ability and Goku can straight-up read minds by touching people I feel it's safe to assume Cell could do the same. If Cell were to read DD's mind and learn how his power works, he would know that pure positive energy is something he's never survived before (AFAIK). So that's a much more accessible win condition.

Given Cell's superior intelligence and MUCH more versatile ability set I find it much more likely he would do this before DD could take him to a star.

 

[Abyssdarkfire]

Leaning towards doomsday. But just curious does he have a counter for cell just absorbing him?

 

[Unwanteduser48]

There are a couple of nuances for this fight. Doomsday, despite being a comic book brick who can't even fly, is deceptively versatile at least as far as durability is concerned. He basically tanks any offensive option Cell has to offer but at the same time he has no easily accessible means of killing Cell except for grabbing him with superior lifting strength and bodyslamming him into a star while pummeling him into mulch.

Cell, on the other hand, has way more overt advantages. Since speed is equalized, he handily takes close-quarters combat. He's far smarter and his ability to fly as well as having several ranged options gives him far superior control over the battlefield. One thing I fear people tend to overestimate is Cell's Zenkai boost potential. It's honestly not that great. When Vegeta lasered him in half with the Final Flash he achieved no Zenkai, same with Goku using the IT Kamehameha. DD has no offensive abilities comparable to a DBZ-style laser so any damage he inflicts will likely not result in Cell boosting.

However, this is where I would have to give the edge to Cell. Namely for 2 things: Telepathy and the Spirit Bomb. Since several characters have demonstrated telepathic ability and Goku can straight-up read minds by touching people I feel it's safe to assume Cell could do the same. If Cell were to read DD's mind and learn how his power works, he would know that pure positive energy is something he's never survived before (AFAIK). So that's a much more accessible win condition.

Given Cell's superior intelligence and MUCH more versatile ability set I find it much more likely he would do this before DD could take him to a star.

So you vote for Cell?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

There are a couple of nuances for this fight. Doomsday, despite being a comic book brick who can't even fly, is deceptively versatile at least as far as durability is concerned. He basically tanks any offensive option Cell has to offer but at the same time he has no easily accessible means of killing Cell except for grabbing him with superior lifting strength and bodyslamming him into a star while pummeling him into mulch.

Cell, on the other hand, has way more overt advantages. Since speed is equalized, he handily takes close-quarters combat. He's far smarter and his ability to fly as well as having several ranged options gives him far superior control over the battlefield. One thing I fear people tend to overestimate is Cell's Zenkai boost potential. It's honestly not that great. When Vegeta lasered him in half with the Final Flash he achieved no Zenkai, same with Goku using the IT Kamehameha. DD has no offensive abilities comparable to a DBZ-style laser so any damage he inflicts will likely not result in Cell boosting.

However, this is where I would have to give the edge to Cell. Namely for 2 things: Telepathy and the Spirit Bomb. Since several characters have demonstrated telepathic ability and Goku can straight-up read minds by touching people I feel it's safe to assume Cell could do the same. If Cell were to read DD's mind and learn how his power works, he would know that pure positive energy is something he's never survived before (AFAIK). So that's a much more accessible win condition.

Given Cell's superior intelligence and MUCH more versatile ability set I find it much more likely he would do this before DD could take him to a star.

telepathy doesn’t work

(Resisted mind reading from Martian Manhunter[15])

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Pure positive energy, are you talking about energy in general. Because he’s resistant to this

Energy Manipulation (Evolved to be able to cancel out Radiant's energy[8])

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Leaning towards doomsday. But just curious does he have a counter for cell just absorbing him?

Cell needs to stab him in order to absorb him, something that Doomsday could simply stop and then rip off his tail.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Cell needs to stab him in order to absorb him, something that Doomsday could simply stop and then rip off his tail.

Couldn’t doomsday also poison him, his spikes have poison don’t they?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Yeah this is a stomp oliver isn’t it.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Couldn’t doomsday also poison him, his spikes have poison don’t they?

Ye

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Wouldn't Cell's regeneration deal with the poison damaging his Cells?

And Doomsday will certainly not know about Cell's absorption with the tail technique, especially if Cell uses the Solar Flare right before then which he has shown to do before. If Cell gets Doomsday's DNA, Cell will also have access to Doomsday's abilities and will beat him that way

Cell also got his own regen and reactive evolution due to him being part Saiyan. In fact, conisdering Cell learned the IT technique after he self-destructed when Goku sacrificed himself, if Doomsday will destroy Cell and he'll regenerate, as he'll need to destroy every cell in his body to kill him, Cell may also get Doomsday's abilities too without the need to stab him first

 

[Vizer04]

This is inconclusive since they can't kill each other.

Inconclusive FRA

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Wouldn't Cell's regeneration deal with the poison damaging his Cells?

Idk

And Doomsday will certainly not know about Cell's absorption with the tail technique, especially if Cell uses the Solar Flare right before then which he has shown to do before. If Cell gets Doomsday's DNA, Cell will also have access to Doomsday's abilities and will beat him that way

Solar Flare isn't it based on reflecting natural sunlight?

conisdering Cell learned the IT technique after he self-destructed when Goku sacrificed himself

Goku had told him about the IT before, so he rather copied it based on it iirc

 

[Purgy]

This is inconclusive since they can't kill each other.

Inconclusive FRA

Cell can absorb

 

[Vizer04]

Cell can absorb

No he can't, Doomsday will just rip off his tail.

 

[Purgy]

No he can't, Doomsday will just rip off his tail.

And then Cell regrows it and tries again? It's a valid wincon even if you think it's extremely unlikely to happen.

 

[Vizer04]

And then Cell regrows it and tries again? It's a valid wincon even if you think it's extremely unlikely to happen.

Doomsday gains immunity to being absorbed thanks to his Reactive Evolution, the same trick won't work two times.

 

[Purgy]

Doomsday gains immunity to being absorbed thanks to his Reactive Evolution, the same trick won't work two times.

His RE seems to work by giving him resistance after he's affected by it, problem is that he'd already be absorbed at that point.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Doomsday gains immunity to being absorbed thanks to his Reactive Evolution, the same trick won't work two times.

If Cell stabs Doomsday, he'll also gain his abilities since his cells will be a part of Cell too

Besides, unless Doomsday can get out AFTER he was already absorbed, the resistance he'd gain afterwards doesn't matter

Goku had told him about the IT before, so he rather copied it based on it iirc

Goku told him he can teleport, not how he did it. Cell was also only able to do it after becoming Super Perfect Cell

 

[Mirai-Koichi]

So you vote for Cell?

Yes

 

[Mirai-Koichi]

Pure positive energy, are you talking about energy in general. Because he’s resistant to this

Energy Manipulation (Evolved to be able to cancel out Radiant's energy[8])

No I mean POSITIVE energy, which is what the spirit bomb is comprised of. It possesses very different qualities from standard Ki attacks. DD has never survived such a thing so even if Telepathy wouldn't work that's still a more accessible win condition than anything DD has going for him. Cell takes this.

 

[Vizer04]

No I mean POSITIVE energy, which is what the spirit bomb is comprised of. It possesses very different qualities from standard Ki attacks. DD has never survived such a thing so even if Telepathy wouldn't work that's still a more accessible win condition than anything DD has going for him. Cell takes this.

To use it, one must have a pure heart so Goku is the perfect individual for the technique due to his obliviously innocent nature.

Cell is obviously not pure of heart as Goku, therefore he won't be able to use the technique. Besides, Doomsday has resisted Telepathy before.

 

[Vizer04]

If Cell stabs Doomsday, he'll also gain his abilities since his cells will be a part of Cell too

Literally headcanon, Cell has never done anything like this...

Besides, unless Doomsday can get out AFTER he was already absorbed, the resistance he'd gain afterwards doesn't matter

Doomsday doesn't need to "get out" of Cell, Cell absorbs by stabing people.

 

[Purgy]

Voting for Cell

Cell is obviously not pure of heart as Goku, therefore he won't be able to use the technique. Besides, Doomsday has resisted Telepathy before.

Cell disagrees with you

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Literally headcanon, Cell has never done anything like this...

You realize that the reason Cell have all of the fighter's abilities is because he have their cells right? Same thing with Doomsday. By absorbing cells from him or absorbing Doomsday whole he'd gain his abilities

Doomsday doesn't need to "get out" of Cell, Cell absorbs by stabing people.

The Androids would beg to differ