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Broly Spoilers for Dragon Ball Movie.
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Well, since Goku is supposed to be 'as pure a saiyan' as Broly, it probably wouldn't change much, i'd say it's more Broly's life that make the difference between him and Goku's growing rate than his body, that's death world look way a weird combinaison of more peacefull and more dangerous than earth after all and Paragus is a stronger mentor than Goku ever had except Whis.
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A quick question. Am I right with the assumption that Broly has a very strong Reactive Evolution ? And more importantly, would that be helpful against enemies like Smash Bros characters?
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Indeed he does @BlackPAIN . He went from being effortlessly stomped by SSG Vegeta , to tanking a point blank attack from him and being unfazed.
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@Dragmeer Oh... I just use 40x just in-case. I also thought him getting a God transformation adding w/ Black's evolution abilities would be OP as crap.
@Peter thank you for the cirrection. I personally believe if Gogeta went through each transformation then Blue... Due to Broly's quick power ups, he would have been defeated.
@Light Agreed... Imagine Goku Black's adaptation w/ Broly's power ups... A true threat to behold.
@Peter thank you for the cirrection. I personally believe if Gogeta went through each transformation then Blue... Due to Broly's quick power ups, he would have been defeated.
@Light Agreed... Imagine Goku Black's adaptation w/ Broly's power ups... A true threat to behold.
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I mean 50 is just a 1.25 times difference and ssj Goku > 100% Freeza
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@Kepekley23 and @DragonEmperor23
Wait, I thought the fusion dance time limit break period was retcon in the Dragon Ball: Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!! movie.
In this link we see Goten and Trunks mess up fusion turning into fat Gotenks only to them unfuse immediately and perfectly pull off the fusion into Gotenks. Isn't this movie canon making this retcon on the time limit break for fusion?
Wait, I thought the fusion dance time limit break period was retcon in the Dragon Ball: Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!! movie.
In this link we see Goten and Trunks mess up fusion turning into fat Gotenks only to them unfuse immediately and perfectly pull off the fusion into Gotenks. Isn't this movie canon making this retcon on the time limit break for fusion?
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I think that the only canon part of that movie is Tarble existing and Tarble only exists in the DBS Movies.
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So any new feats now that the movie has been released?
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@Kep
If I have two similar cars which are equally fast, but one of them is in good condition and has a full fuel tank and the second one takes a lot of time to start and is very low on fuel, I'll obviously pick the first car to reach my destination. Now if some guy like Vegeta breaks my car, I'll not be like- "Oh! It doesn't matter I'll just take my second inferior car which will most likely not get me to my destination on time." I'll be upset and say- "Why did you break my car, I needed that car. That car was my only chance to reach my destination on time."
In no way does this statement make the second car slower than the first. Same case with Vegeta and Goku's statement.
Obviously according to Vegeta they didn't need the potara anymore because according to him, they will return Buuhan into Super Buu by rescuing everyone and Gohan is very much capable of dealing with Super Buu. And surely Goku's reaction was justified because according to him, if they failed they'll still need to fuse and Vegeta broke the easiest and sure shot chance of them doing it. There is no power comparison involved here. Goku didn't say Dance was weaker, but Potara was the only viable option available because the Dance was just next to impossible to pull off. He knows about the dance and how difficult it is to learn and perfect, which makes it absolutely impractical in a sitation where they were rushed. I don't know how you're only seeing what you want to see, despite that being so wrong.
And after everything is said and done, they returned Buuhan to Super Buu but Gohan was not awake and both Saiyans were still no match for Super Buu, the only option left, however impractical or next to impossible, was to try the dance. Again, if Vegeta broke my first car, then at last, it's better to take my second car despite there being next to no chance of success, instead of walking on my feet which provides me with absolutely 0% success rate.
Sorry, but you're bringing nothing new to the table and I feel like I'm repeating myself over and over again. It's clear that you're unwilling to listen to anything which goes against your idea of "Potara > Dance". Therefore, I can't continue this deabte anymore, unless you have a clear cut statement from the DB canon which directly states Potara is "stronger" than Dance.
If I have two similar cars which are equally fast, but one of them is in good condition and has a full fuel tank and the second one takes a lot of time to start and is very low on fuel, I'll obviously pick the first car to reach my destination. Now if some guy like Vegeta breaks my car, I'll not be like- "Oh! It doesn't matter I'll just take my second inferior car which will most likely not get me to my destination on time." I'll be upset and say- "Why did you break my car, I needed that car. That car was my only chance to reach my destination on time."
In no way does this statement make the second car slower than the first. Same case with Vegeta and Goku's statement.
Obviously according to Vegeta they didn't need the potara anymore because according to him, they will return Buuhan into Super Buu by rescuing everyone and Gohan is very much capable of dealing with Super Buu. And surely Goku's reaction was justified because according to him, if they failed they'll still need to fuse and Vegeta broke the easiest and sure shot chance of them doing it. There is no power comparison involved here. Goku didn't say Dance was weaker, but Potara was the only viable option available because the Dance was just next to impossible to pull off. He knows about the dance and how difficult it is to learn and perfect, which makes it absolutely impractical in a sitation where they were rushed. I don't know how you're only seeing what you want to see, despite that being so wrong.
And after everything is said and done, they returned Buuhan to Super Buu but Gohan was not awake and both Saiyans were still no match for Super Buu, the only option left, however impractical or next to impossible, was to try the dance. Again, if Vegeta broke my first car, then at last, it's better to take my second car despite there being next to no chance of success, instead of walking on my feet which provides me with absolutely 0% success rate.
Sorry, but you're bringing nothing new to the table and I feel like I'm repeating myself over and over again. It's clear that you're unwilling to listen to anything which goes against your idea of "Potara > Dance". Therefore, I can't continue this deabte anymore, unless you have a clear cut statement from the DB canon which directly states Potara is "stronger" than Dance.
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Are there any new feats?
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We'll have to wait another month for the english release lol, plus I don't see the point of waiting now that the movie is officially out.ZERO7772 said:
@AnimeFanboy Just the ones that we already know of.
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You're right - this "debate" is utterly pointless.
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I said this on the other discussion thread, but I wanna get as many opinions as possible: Anyone else think that the best way to approach this movie is to think of Broly as the main protagonist? I mean, he is the title character, but also because it will bring back that sense of tension that this movie might not have if we root for Goku and Vegeta like always
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Do we have a subbed version yet or are we still relying on spoilers from those who watched the exclusive release?
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Geekdom saw the actual movie and he said that there were some differences in the spoilers and movie.
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Waiting on leaks on Gogeta and Frieza...I have seen a clip of SS Broly wailing on base Frieza the very instant they start fighting so if he does that for an hour yet stomped Goku and Vegeta into base...well, I would assume Frieza should be scaled to Low 2-C. Hopefully he isn't getting completely destroyed by the end of the hour long fight.
He is mobile at the end apparently so he can't have been beaten THAT badly.
He is mobile at the end apparently so he can't have been beaten THAT badly.
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IIRC they even have to wait a certain period of time before fusing again, so it's probably more than an hour. Poor Frieza.
EDIT: Nah, it's just 30 minutes until they defuse. So it's just one hour for Frieza.Still, poor Frieza
EDIT: Nah, it's just 30 minutes until they defuse. So it's just one hour for Frieza.
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inb4 some BS scaling and interviews cause Frieza to be scaled to 2-A because of Beerus and Broly statements suddenly putting them there. That would be the biggest asspull in DB history.
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Meh, that would just mean we missinterpreted previous stuff, like Goku and Beerus's shockwave feat actualy risking destroying the universe at every point of time rather than destroying the matter of it and Zamasu having fused with way more timeline than what was directly shown before being destroyed.CryoTheMayo said:
We'd just need to high ball everything that was previously discarded as unlikely and it would work, DB is just vague enough for that kind of stuff to not be a big probleme.
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when exactly are we making pages? i think we should make them now.....db pages are always the most viewed pages here and people are crazy for gogeta and broly.....i say pages should be made because many visitors will be attracted to this site......next month will be too late and all the hype will die down
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Don't you dare question my boi Freeza's latent potential. He was a child without training when he blew up a whole planet with warrior race upon it yielding Dwarf Star level result. He trained for 4 months and became universal. He did nothing but sat around imagining things and became at least 10 times stronger and survived an attack from a Hakaishin candidate which warped an infinite dimension.
He'll soon surpass those filthy monkeys
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Gohan's Potential >>>>>> All.
Go home, kiddo. Gohan should have been the hero of the Boo Saga, but Toriyama didn't want him to one shot Kid Boo.
Go home, kiddo. Gohan should have been the hero of the Boo Saga, but Toriyama didn't want him to one shot Kid Boo.
