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Base Gogeta vs Super Saiyan Broly

Gogeta's access to the SSJ transformations are restricted

Broly's Full Power SSJ is restricted

Speed is unequal

Gogeta is bloodlusted

Battle takes place in the snowy continent in the Broly Movie

Who wins and why?

Gogeta:

Broly:

Kachow:
 
Pretty sure Broly just beats the hell out of Gogeta here, even if he uses Kaioken times twenty. Bro was pretty evenly matched with SSJ Gogeta, what is Base Gogeta gonna do?
 
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Pretty sure Broly just beats the hell out of Gogeta here, even if he uses Kaioken times twenty. Bro was pretty evenly matched with SSJ Gogeta, what is Base Gogeta gonna do?
Base Gogeta was able to hold his own against SSJ Broly for a good while when both SSB Goku and Vegeta couldn't last a single second against him.
 
Gogeta as SSJ was stomping SSJ Broly while simultaneously holding back. Super Saiyan wasn't needed for Gogeta and making him bloodlusted just makes this worse.

I don't see how this will end differently than canon SSJ Gogeta vs. SSJ Broly in the movie.
 
Base Gogeta was able to hold his own against SSJ Broly for a good while when both SSB Goku and Vegeta couldn't last a single second against him.
He deflected two attacks before instantly transforming. That wasn't holding his own for a good while.
 
Frankly, if we apply the power situation in Kefla to Gogeta, Base Gogeta will be slightly stronger than SSJB Vegeta and SSJB Goku. Even SSJ Broly managed to keep up with SSJ Gogeta. Broly FRA
 
SSJ Broly was getting tanked by SSJ Goku and Vegeta until they ran out of stamina
 
SSJ Broly was comparable in power to SSJ Gogeta, he just seemed to lack the control and skill that Gogeta had (since he was insane due to his rage and also inexperienced).

Base Gogeta can't win, especially since if he tries wearing Broly down, Broly will just get stronger.
 
SSJ Broly was comparable in power to SSJ Gogeta, he just seemed to lack the control and skill that Gogeta had (since he was insane due to his rage and also inexperienced).

Base Gogeta can't win, especially since if he tries wearing Broly down, Broly will just get stronger.
How was he "comparable" when during the SSJ Broly vs SSJ Gogeta fight it looked like Gogeta wasn't trying at all? He was completely outclassing him in terms of stats and didn't seem like he was trying but ofc this could be interpreted differently.

Base Gogeta was able to effortlessly dodge all of Broly's Ki attacks and deflect some, something even both SSB Goku and Vegeta couldn't do. I wouldn't say that Gogeta has "no chance" when he held his own against SSJ Broly for a good while b4 transforming into SSJ and just turning the fight completely one sided.
 
How was he "comparable" when during the SSJ Broly vs SSJ Gogeta fight it looked like Gogeta wasn't trying at all? He was completely outclassing him in terms of stats and didn't seem like he was trying but ofc this could be interpreted differently.
They both sent each other flying with punches, their beams matched each other, they evenly threw hands rapidly once or twice, and Broly wasn't really hurt by SSJ Gogeta's attacks.
Base Gogeta was able to effortlessly dodge all of Broly's Ki attacks and deflect some, something even both SSB Goku and Vegeta couldn't do. I wouldn't say that Gogeta has "no chance" when he held his own against SSJ Broly for a good while b4 transforming into SSJ and just turning the fight completely one sided.
Base Gogeta can hold his own, but I think SSJ Broly eventually just adapts and then overpowers him enough to negate the skill advantage.
 
They both sent each other flying with punches, their beams matched each other, they evenly threw hands rapidly once or twice, and Broly wasn't really hurt by SSJ Gogeta's attacks.
Broly's punches didn't affect Gogeta all that much meanwhile he was left reeling from Gogeta's every successful punch. Also this
 
They both sent each other flying with punches, their beams matched each other, they evenly threw hands rapidly once or twice, and Broly wasn't really hurt by SSJ Gogeta's attacks.

Base Gogeta can hold his own, but I think SSJ Broly eventually just adapts and then overpowers him enough to negate the skill advantage.
Broly was left staggering by his punches and there was one time when Gogeta did some sort of spinning kick you could see spit coming out of Broly's mouth

Gogeta here is bloodlusted and because of Vegeta's side, he knows of Broly's immense skill and power growth. As soon as the battle starts, Gogeta would find a way to incap or kill Broly immediately
 
Broly was left staggering by his punches and there was one time when Gogeta did some sort of spinning kick you could see spit coming out of Broly's mouth

Gogeta here is bloodlusted and because of Vegeta's side, he knows of Broly's immense skill and power growth. As soon as the battle starts, Gogeta would find a way to incap or kill Broly immediately
If SSJ Broly's beam was evenly matched with SSJ Gogeta's, safe to say he's above Base Gogeta by a huge margin no matter what, so Gogeta is not gonna kill him "immediately".

He could try using the Kaio-Ken, but Broly would just adapt and overpower him.
 
If SSJ Broly's beam was evenly matched with SSJ Gogeta's, safe to say he's above Base Gogeta by a huge margin no matter what, so Gogeta is not gonna kill him "immediately".

He could try using the Kaio-Ken, but Broly would just adapt and overpower him.
For all we know he could have been holding back as in the beginning of the fight when Gogeta turned SSJ he was smirking throughout the entire fight except for when launching attacks. It wasn't until he turned Blue where he took things seriously.
 
For all we know he could have been holding back as in the beginning of the fight when Gogeta turned SSJ he was smirking throughout the entire fight except for when launching attacks. It wasn't until he turned Blue where he took things seriously.
Nothing states he was holding back, so that's just headcanon, and he was likely being either cocky and/or enjoying the fight.

As I said before, Broly matched a beam clash with him, fought him with rapid punches evenly once or twice, and took plenty of physical and energy hits from him.

If Gogeta was a 50 in SSJ, Broly was somewhere around a 40.
 
From the scene SSJ Broly was not evenly matched with SSJ Gogeta at all. Gogeta was even able to tank hits from LSSJ Broly at first before finally turning SSB
 
Nothing states he was holding back, so that's just headcanon, and he was likely being either cocky and/or enjoying the fight.

As I said before, Broly matched a beam clash with him, fought him with rapid punches evenly once or twice, and took plenty of physical and energy hits from him.

If Gogeta was a 50 in SSJ, Broly was somewhere around a 40.
Nothing states that he was going all out either it was only when he went Blue he went sicko mode and pummeled Broly into the ground
 
From the scene SSJ Broly was not evenly matched with SSJ Gogeta at all.
SSJ Broly was still keeping up to a good extent.

And I find it hard to believe that Broly is like 10-50x weaker than SSJ Gogeta considering that he wasn't too far behind in their battle.

Hell, even saying he's only 1/2 as strong as SSJ Gogeta feels like a massive lowball.

He should be 30-40x as strong as Base Gogeta.
Gogeta was even able to tank hits from LSSJ Broly at first before finally turning SSB
LSSJ Broly was clearly overpowering him even if he took a few hits.
 
SSJ Broly was still keeping up to a good extent.
Not at all. Broly landed about one hit on Gogeta that didn't do much at all and couldn't land a single blow on him since while Gogeta is dancing all around him with flurry of attacks
And I find it hard to believe that Broly is like 10-50x weaker than SSJ Gogeta considering that he wasn't too far behind in their battle.

Hell, even saying he's only 1/2 as strong as SSJ Gogeta feels like a massive lowball.

He should be 30-40x as strong as Base Gogeta.
Why? Nothing confirms this, especially with how much Gogeta held back against him
LSSJ Broly was clearly overpowering him even if he took a few hits.
That's true, but Gogeta was able to tank and even block some of his hits before turning Blue
 
Not at all. Broly landed about one hit on Gogeta that didn't do much at all and couldn't land a single blow on him since while Gogeta is dancing all around him with flurry of attacks
2 hits actually, he and Gogeta both landed a sucker hit on each other (first Broly, then Gogeta) right before the beam clash.
Why? Nothing confirms this, especially with how much Gogeta held back against him

That's true, but Gogeta was able to tank and even block some of his hits before turning Blue
Nothing confirms Gogeta was holding back.

And the beam clash pretty much confirms they were on a comparable level.
 
2 hits actually, he and Gogeta both landed a sucker hit on each other (first Broly, then Gogeta) right before the beam clash.

Nothing confirms Gogeta was holding back.
Except Gogeta was super casual the entire time and only started fighting seriously once Broly became LSSJ
And the beam clash pretty much confirms they were on a comparable level.
So Krillin is SSB level then? He clashed with Goku. This means nothing if Gogeta was holding back
 
Except Gogeta was super casual the entire time and only started fighting seriously once Broly became LSSJ
If he could've won as Base Gogeta, why did he transform?
So Krillin is SSB level then? He clashed with Goku. This means nothing if Gogeta was holding back
Absolutely nothing in common.

Gogeta fought to stop Broly and take him down with superior power. They literally cracked a dimension with their beam clash.

Krillin fought a Goku who was severely holding back for the sake of training.

Terrible comparison.
 
If he could've won as Base Gogeta, why did he transform?
I didn't say that, but he did held back. Broly's power was also constantly rising so even if he had an advantage in base, Broly would've surpassed him
Base Gogeta was also avoiding Broly's attack with ease, something even Golden Frieza couldn't. Goku and Vegeta only escape because they sended Broly after Frieza
Gogeta fought to stop Broly and take him down with superior power. They literally cracked a dimension with their beam clash.
That's due to their strength, not due to how serious they were, and also because Broly's lack of ki control
Doesn't change the fact Gogeta toyed with him
 
I still think that if Base Gogeta is 1 and SSJ Gogeta is a 50, SSJ Broly is somewhere between 20 and 40.
 
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