Bog vs Berserker (Cu Alter)

[WeeklyBattles]

A dozen or so at any given time

Its not done through growing new bogs out of the original bog. Each clone can create a new clone if the original body of Bog is destroyed.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Would killing the original Bog de-activate them?

TBH I can see Cu killing a decent number of clones given his skill and use of ranged weapons which neg regen.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No, it wouldnt, theyre essentially their own entity

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

And how likely is he to activate his clones before getting sliced apart?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He leads with them in character

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I'm a bit confused. Weekly says the clones aren't Bog but if thats the case then it is irrelevant whether they are still alive if "Bog" (the one Cu is fighting) is dead as he is apparently the only one that matters.

Still looking for an answer to this. If Bog's conciousness jumps to another body when his "main" one dies, they have to be connected. Calter throws Carnage and calls it a day.

If they are separate, he still throws Carnage and calls it a day.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Anonymous His conscious doesnt transfer, the clones are separate entities

 

[AnonymousBlank]

So then they are irrelevant? If they aren't the main guy Calter is fighting, why do they matter?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Yeah, even with the clones included Calter would just throw more Gae Bolgs or slash them apart as well.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Anonymous Because theyre points for Bog to uses as tactical attacks, things to regenerate from, things to use to survive AoE attacks, etc

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

If they are separate entities, it isn't bog regenerating from them, it's themselves.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

@Anonymous Because theyre points for Bog to uses as tactical attacks, things to regenerate from, things to use to survive AoE attacks, etc

Wait, can Bog summon his clones, or are they just completly seperate from him and are more like lackeys?

Otherwise they shouldn't be included in the match, tbh.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dargoo Bog summons his clones from the start of the match and from there they cna go on to summon their own clones

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

The argument Anonymous is making is that if these clones are entirely separate entities, then they are not require to be killed to win the fight. Only the original Bog needs to be killed.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Monarch Each clone can grow into the original Bog

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Alright lemme see if I got this correct.

>Bog is bog.

>Bog spawns a dozen more bogs

>New bogs go hide somewhere.

>New bogs count as separate from og bog for the purposes of Gae Bolg

>New bogs still count as og bog for the purposes of this fight

Why??? I mean I get if the new bogs go fight Calter while og bog hides but og dying should end it right then and there.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

TL;DR Duplication shouldnt be allowed because reasons

lol

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

TL;DR Duplication shouldnt be allowed because reasons
lol

But, he's summoning something, not duplicating, tho.

Not like Cu can't just kill the clones, tbh.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dargoo He's not sumoning anything, he's duplicating

 

[AnonymousBlank]

If its duplicating then why are they all not considered bog (ie the same thing)?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

@Dargoo He's not sumoning anything, he's duplicating

>clones are seperate entitites that aren't a part of Bog

>clones are summoned, not spawned from Bog himself

nani?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I don't get how this weapon works. Why would it home onto the clones? Btw, they're clones, not alternate entities. They both are and aren't Bog, seeing how they act as an entourage after he wins a fight. But they're still Bog.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dargoo The clones are spawned from Bog himself, he creates from from his body.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

If they are all bog, then Carnage homes in on all of them applying no regen and instant death.

If they aren't bog, then Carnage only mercs the one he aimed for (which seems to be the OG one). The others don't matter to the fight once OG dies since he is the only one that qualifies as bog.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Theyre not all Bog. Cal summed it up perfectly.

 

[SchroKatze]

Also, voting Calter here. Even when his spear isn't a conceptual killing thing, its still AoE + Homing + Chance/Or certain Instant Death + Regen Negation. Its basically a Danmaku version of Gae Bolg without the causality reversal curse

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Okay so they are not og bog. Fight starts, you said Bog creates clones and has them hide underground for field control, yes?

 

[SchroKatze]

Wait...

• Ath nGabla: A spell involving the runes Algiz, Nauthiz, Ansuz, and Inguz in successive order, it prevents all who see it from retreating and prevents them from refusing one-on-one combat.

Wouldn't that make Bog refuse to spam his clones? Since going to another clone = Retreating and spamming clones makes a one vs many fight?

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

@Dargoo The clones are spawned from Bog himself, he creates from from his body.

If he creates them from his body, wouldn't the regen negation effect it? Also it's odd you say this, as you denied it just earlier.

Also what Schro said.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Cu doesn't know to use it though. Unless he sees Bog creating the clones. Speaking of, how does he make them amyway? Are they grown off him, spawned within a certain radius etc?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dargoo No because once he makes then theyre no longer a part of his body, theyre separate entities.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Anonymous They grow off of his body with some going for a direct attack while others go for stealth by hiding off the battlefield or underground or in cover. Ath nGabla wouldnt work as the clones themselves dont have Bog's mind

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bog's Regenerationn both is and isn't fluid. Regen negation wouldn't affect it in the same way stabbing a puddle with a regen negating sword wouldn't stop the puddle from regaining the same composure.

 

[SchroKatze]

The point is that Bog wouldn't even use his clones if Calter used this, it would make him refuse to make one vs many via clone spam and also prevent himself from using his clones as a way to escape.


But Calter doesn't use that, soooo

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Schro Bog leads with clones in charatcer and once he makes them they act of their own volition. Unless Calter uses it immediately at the start of the fight, it wont make much of a difference.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Okay so clones pop off him and try attack Calter who just uses Ath nGabla forcing them to die one at a time in single combat since they can't run away and can't dogpile him.

Voting for Calter.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Problem is the ones who arent on the battlefield or the ones that are underground arent going to see Ath nGabla and thus wont be affected by it

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bog's also not above just...swamping the battlefield with acid.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

@Weekly

If they don't come up then its inconclusive but I have a feeling they will at some point meaning more dead things. The ones off field have to run there which just gets them nuked like everything else on the surface. Runes also allow Calter to track the ones underground/off field.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

BUMP!!