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Blue And White Verse | Adding Cthulhu Universe Profiles | Civilization Levels

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It seems to be type 3: it has multiple truths state (A = true and B = false): It is not A, it is not B, it is A nor B, A and B, and from the context above, it collapses all forms of logic or axiom of logic which suggested all other true states do not describe it; it seems to meet the requirements.

Type 3 (Plurality): Characters that exist in a nondual state regarding all dual systems within the scope of an entire level of reality and qualitatively superior or immune to the effects caused within it. Furthermore, these characters exist beyond the classical states of contradiction-allowing logic on some level of existence. That is to say, for any statement A about them they are in a state that can't be described as A is true, A is false, A is simultanously true and false or A is neither true nor false. And so they must obey a many-valued logic with at least 5 truth states, and not be in any of the 4 combinations of true and false mentioned earlier.

I guess the rest seem fine.
 
Thank you for helping out, Elizhaa.
 
It seems to be type 3: it has multiple truths state (A = true and B = false): It is not A, it is not B, it is A nor B, A and B, and from the context above, it collapses all forms of logic or axiom of logic which suggested all other true states do not describe it; it seems to meet the requirements.

Type 3 (Plurality): Characters that exist in a nondual state regarding all dual systems within the scope of an entire level of reality and qualitatively superior or immune to the effects caused within it. Furthermore, these characters exist beyond the classical states of contradiction-allowing logic on some level of existence. That is to say, for any statement A about them they are in a state that can't be described as A is true, A is false, A is simultanously true and false or A is neither true nor false. And so they must obey a many-valued logic with at least 5 truth states, and not be in any of the 4 combinations of true and false mentioned earlier.

I guess the rest seem fine.
How many truth states do you think Outer gods trans Type 3 has?
 
How many truth states do you think Outer gods trans Type 3 has?
It breaks the infinite logic. I think outer god has an infinite truth states as well.
The Transduality Type 2 or 3 for Outer Gods & Great Old Ones is mostly based on Nyarlathotep's Chaos and the Inexplicable Laws that are formed from them.
The axioms are true and do not need to be proven and seem to be applicable to infinity truth states as well.
It seems to be type 3: it has multiple truths state (A = true and B = false): It is not A, it is not B, it is A nor B, A and B, and from the context above, it collapses all forms of logic or axiom of logic which suggested all other true states do not describe it; it seems to meet the requirements.

Type 3 (Plurality): Characters that exist in a nondual state regarding all dual systems within the scope of an entire level of reality and qualitatively superior or immune to the effects caused within it. Furthermore, these characters exist beyond the classical states of contradiction-allowing logic on some level of existence. That is to say, for any statement A about them they are in a state that can't be described as A is true, A is false, A is simultanously true and false or A is neither true nor false. And so they must obey a many-valued logic with at least 5 truth states, and not be in any of the 4 combinations of true and false mentioned earlier.

I guess the rest seem fine.
Agree
 
Introduction


This CRT will focus on adding the Outer Gods & Great Old Ones from the Blue and White Verse as well as the Civilizations Level blog. The more controversial/important abilities and changes that require overlooking and judgment can be seen at the very bottom.

Outer Gods


Azathoth(Tier; High 1-A, likely 0)


Yog-Sothoth (Tier; 1-A, likely High 1-A)


Nyarlathotep (Tier; 1-A, likely High 1-A)


Shub-Niggurath (Tier; 1-A, likely High 1-A)

Great Old Ones


Cthulhu (Tier; 1-C, likely 1-A)
Complex Multiverse level (The Cthulhu Universe has three systems of superimposed layers of laws consisting of normal laws, abnormal/deformed laws, and inexplicable/baffling laws, with each next level of laws being completely beyond the logic of the last. These laws split the Cthulhu Universe into four levels with there being no way for a lower level to ever access a higher level. To beings who exist within the higher levels, everything engaging in lower levels of laws such as humans and modern-day science is akin to bacteria. These higher levels operate the universe from a god's perspective as if playing an entirely different game from those beneath them and are practically existing in a separate universe based entirely on their systems laws. As such Great Old Ones like Cthulhu are set to be incomprehensible to beings like humans who are below their level in every way. To this extent what is seen by humans of a lower level is not truly their body and is instead merely a faucet of their true, endless selves. Whether it be common physical meaning, aesthetics, mechanics, or even Euclidean Geometry, they are unbound from such things. Cthulhu is considered one of the strongest Great Old Ones and should be beyond those of the lower ranks)

Likely Outerverse level+ (The Cthulhu Universe operates using a non-mainstream timeline setting which includes timeline splitting and infinite variables. This would mean Cthulhu Universe contains a 1-A+ number of Timelines with Great Old Ones both affecting it and being superior to it to some extent.)


Glaaki (Tier; 1-C, likely 1-A)
Complex Multiverse level (The Cthulhu Universe has three systems of superimposed layers of laws consisting of normal laws, abnormal/deformed laws, and inexplicable/baffling laws, with each next level of laws being completely beyond the logic of the last. These laws split the Cthulhu Universe into four levels with there being no way for a lower level to ever access a higher level. To beings who exist within the higher levels, everything engaging in lower levels of laws such as humans and modern-day science is akin to bacteria. These higher levels operate the universe from a god's perspective as if playing an entirely different game from those beneath them and are practically existing in a separate universe based entirely on their systems laws. As such Great Old Ones like Glaaki are set to be incomprehensible to beings like humans who are below their level in every way. To this extent what is seen by humans of a lower level is not truly their body and is instead merely a faucet of their true, endless selves. Whether it be common physical meaning, aesthetics, mechanics, or even Euclidean Geometry, they are unbound from such things. Glaaki is a Great Old One considered much weaker than Cthulhu but is still made up of Inexplicable laws and should be beyond those of the lower ranks)

Likely Outerverse level+ (The Cthulhu Universe operates using a non-mainstream timeline setting which includes timeline splitting and infinite variables. This would mean Cthulhu Universe contains a 1-A+ number of Timelines with Great Old Ones both affecting it and being superior to it to some extent.)


Tsathoggua (Tier; Low 1-C, likely 1-A)
Low Complex Multiverse level (The Cthulhu Universe has three systems of superimposed layers of laws consisting of normal laws, abnormal/deformed laws, and inexplicable/baffling laws, with each next level of laws being completely beyond the logic of the last. These laws split the Cthulhu Universe into four levels with there being no way for a lower level to ever access a higher level. To beings who exist within the higher levels, everything engaging in lower levels of laws such as humans and modern-day science is akin to bacteria. These higher levels operate the universe from a god's perspective as if playing an entirely different game from those beneath them and are practically existing in a separate universe based entirely on their systems laws. As such Great Old Ones like Tsathoggua are set to be incomprehensible to beings like humans who are below their level in every way. To this extent what is seen by humans of a lower level is not truly their body and is instead merely a faucet of their true, endless selves. Whether it be common physical meaning, aesthetics, mechanics, or even Euclidean Geometry, they are unbound from such things. Tsathoggua's only inexplicable law is his ability to devour, meaning he is made of deformed laws)

Likely Outerverse level+ (The Cthulhu Universe operates using a non-mainstream timeline setting which includes timeline splitting and infinite variables. This would mean Cthulhu Universe contains a 1-A+ number of Timelines with Great Old Ones both affecting it and being superior to it to some extent.)


Eihort (Tier; Low 1-C, likely 1-A)
Low Complex Multiverse level (The Cthulhu Universe has three systems of superimposed layers of laws consisting of normal laws, abnormal/deformed laws, and inexplicable/baffling laws, with each next level of laws being completely beyond the logic of the last. These laws split the Cthulhu Universe into four levels with there being no way for a lower level to ever access a higher level. To beings who exist within the higher levels, everything engaging in lower levels of laws such as humans and modern-day science is akin to bacteria. These higher levels operate the universe from a god's perspective as if playing an entirely different game from those beneath them and are practically existing in a separate universe based entirely on their systems laws. As such Great Old Ones like Tsathoggua are set to be incomprehensible to beings like humans who are below their level in every way. To this extent what is seen by humans of a lower level is not truly their body and is instead merely a faucet of their true, endless selves. Whether it be common physical meaning, aesthetics, mechanics, or even Euclidean Geometry, they are unbound from such things. Eihort is an existence on the same level as Tsathoggua, who only has one inexplicable law which is his ability to devour, meaning he is made of deformed laws)

Likely Outerverse level+ (The Cthulhu Universe operates using a non-mainstream timeline setting which includes timeline splitting and infinite variables. This would mean Cthulhu Universe contains a 1-A+ number of Timelines with Great Old Ones both affecting it and being superior to it to some extent.)

Civilization Levels


Important Abilities


The Transduality Type 3 for Outer Gods & Great Old Ones is mostly based on Nyarlathotep's Chaos and the Inexplicable Laws that are formed from them.


The Transduality Type 3 for Independent Civilizations who have become Taiyi Universes is based on following Negative Theology towards any description of it. The Cthulhu Universe is a part of the Taiyi Universe so it is unexplainable even compared to Nyarlathotep's Chaos and Inexplicable Laws.



Lastly, the Cthulhu Universe exists within the 3rd Dimension of Cosmology, so if the profiles above are accepted the 3rd Dimension will become "likely, High 1-A", and the 4th and everything past that point will become "likely, 0". This is simply raising everything up a Tier based on the very bottom of the Cosmology being raised up.

Agree: Gasper, Rakih_Elyan, Vasco, Lewis, Elizhaa

Neutral:

Disagree:
Looking at this page, it should be added as well as the cosmology that it is based on is directly introduced in this CRT

Count me in on the agree list
 
Which staff members have accepted what here so far? Also, can somebody write an easy to understand summary explanation post regarding what needs to be evaluated here, please?
 
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Which staff members have accepted what here so far? Also, can somebody write an easy to understand summary explanation post regarding what needs t be evaluated here, please?
Elizhaa has accepted everything so far;
  • Outer Gods & Great Old One's Profiles as well as their AP Ratings.
  • Likely 0 Cosmology boost due to AP Ratings
  • Transduality Type 3 for Evil Gods & The Taiyi Universe
  • Civilization Levels Blog
 
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Thank you. Given that this is a potential tier 0, we need more input though.

@Ultima_Reality @DontTalkDT @Qawsedf234 @KingPin0422 @Pain_to12 @Everything12 @Planck69

Would any of you be willing to help out here please?
Sure, later in the day I will go through it
@Ultima_Reality @DontTalkDT @Qawsedf234 @Pain_to12 @Everything12 @Planck69

Would any of you be willing to help out here please?

Also, knowledgeable members for this verse, can you write comprehensive but easy to understand explanations posts for the relevant discussion so far here please?
 
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