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Ya each novel acts normal for the first few hundred chapters, then it starts dropping the heavy plot and stuff.
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Blue And White Verse | Adding Cthulhu Universe Profiles | Civilization Levels
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Yeah, first they will do their adventure, until a few hundred chapters later things like dimensions and so on are mentioned
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The interesting thing about Chinese romance is how the world works, and the background of each one.
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True
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Let me guess we’re waiting for ultima_reality?
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all staff who understand things at tier 0
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It seems to be type 3: it has multiple truths state (A = true and B = false): It is not A, it is not B, it is A nor B, A and B, and from the context above, it collapses all forms of logic or axiom of logic which suggested all other true states do not describe it; it seems to meet the requirements.
Type 3 (Plurality): Characters that exist in a nondual state regarding all dual systems within the scope of an entire level of reality and qualitatively superior or immune to the effects caused within it. Furthermore, these characters exist beyond the classical states of contradiction-allowing logic on some level of existence. That is to say, for any statement A about them they are in a state that can't be described as A is true, A is false, A is simultanously true and false or A is neither true nor false. And so they must obey a many-valued logic with at least 5 truth states, and not be in any of the 4 combinations of true and false mentioned earlier.
I guess the rest seem fine.
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How many truth states do you think Outer gods trans Type 3 has?
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It breaks the infinite logic. I think outer god has an infinite truth states as well.
The axioms are true and do not need to be proven and seem to be applicable to infinity truth states as well.
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Introduction
This CRT will focus on adding the Outer Gods & Great Old Ones from the Blue and White Verse as well as the Civilizations Level blog. The more controversial/important abilities and changes that require overlooking and judgment can be seen at the very bottom.
Outer Gods
Azathoth(Tier; High 1-A, likely 0)
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High Outerverse level (Azathoth exists above even the absolute level of beings such as Yog-Sothoth and everything belongs to them. Whether it be Chaos, Darkness, or the Nameless Fog, all of them were born from Azathoth, and Azathoth is beyond the imagination of the other Pillar Gods such as Yog-Sothoth. Azathoth is considered to be a higher being in comparison to the other Outer Gods and is even stated to be a higher-dimensional being. This difference is power is so great that they are considered an existence that surpassed the other Pillar Gods entirely despite being a Pillar God themself. As such Azathoth is impossible to reach through any degree of improvement or learning and is absolutely unsurpassable, they are the Idiot Bind Fool, who remains unmoved and unaffected, viewing all things as just a dream)
Likely Boundless (Azathoth is likely unreachable even to High 1-A beings such as Yog-Sothoth, Nyarlathotep, and Shub-Niggurath, viewing them as nothing but a dream.)
Yog-Sothoth (Tier; 1-A, likely High 1-A)
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Outerverse level (The Three Pillars in their original setting are detached existences second only to Azothoth himself, existing at an absolute level, they are impossible to reach through any degree of improvement or learning and are absolutely unsurpassable. Yog-Sothoth resides outside of the river of space and time and does not exist in the Cthulhu Universe or even in any dimension. The very Cthulhu Universe itself is Yog-Sothoth's body, however, it is not bound by it or its space-time, instead they exist in a dimensionless realm. They are considered to be Omnipotent in regard to the Cthulhu Universe and are the embodiment of the Nameless Fog itself, which is all things in space and time, all visible and knowable things, all existence and all events. Among Nyarlathotep who represents Absolute Lawlessness and Shub-Niggurath who represents the Absolute Unknown, Yog-Sothoth represents Absolute Existence)
Likely High Outerverse level (The Three Pillars unreachability and detachment from the Cthulhu Universe would put them beyond the likely 1-A+ number of Timelines that exists within it.)
Nyarlathotep (Tier; 1-A, likely High 1-A)
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Outerverse level (Nyarlathotep is Chaos itself. Chaos is the probability and possibility of uncertainty and disorder; it is all the forms and changes of matter and on a deeper level it is the dictionary of all rules. This would include those of the systems superimposing the Cthulhu Universe. Similarly, to Yog-Sothoth who is Absolute Existence, and Shub-Niggurath who is the Absolute Unknown, Nyarlathotep is Absolute Lawlessness, they are a being who possesses supreme power equal to the Nameless Fog. Nyarlathotep is stated to be in no way inferior to Yog-Sothoth themself, and despite being unable to stop Bai Ge themself, Yog-Sothoth believed Nyarlathotep could have if they wanted to)
Likely High Outerverse level (Would be on par with Outer Gods of the Three Pillars such as Yog-Sothoth and Shub-Niggurath who are unreachable and detached from the Cthulhu Universe and by extension beyond the likely 1-A+ number of Timelines that exists within it.)
Shub-Niggurath (Tier; 1-A, likely High 1-A)
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Outerverse level (The Three Pillars in their original setting are detached existences second only to Azothoth himself, existing at an absolute level, they are impossible to reach through any degree of improvement or learning and are absolutely unsurpassable. Shub-Niggurath is the one who created most of the Great Old Ones and upon their death, they return to being a part of them. Furthermore, Shub-Niggurath is the representation of Darkness, all things unknown that cannot be seen, whether it is dark matter or dark energy, on a deeper level all things are unknown. Those of the Three Pillars are described to have supreme power and are similar to beings like Nyarlathotep who represents Absolute Lawlessness and Yog-Sothoth who represents Absolute Existence, while Shub-Niggurath represents the Absolute Unknown)
Likely High Outerverse level (The Three Pillars unreachability and detachment from the Cthulhu Universe would put them beyond the likely 1-A+ number of Timelines that exists within it.)
Great Old Ones
Cthulhu (Tier; 1-C, likely 1-A)
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Complex Multiverse level (The Cthulhu Universe has three systems of superimposed layers of laws consisting of normal laws, abnormal/deformed laws, and inexplicable/baffling laws, with each next level of laws being completely beyond the logic of the last. These laws split the Cthulhu Universe into four levels with there being no way for a lower level to ever access a higher level. To beings who exist within the higher levels, everything engaging in lower levels of laws such as humans and modern-day science is akin to bacteria. These higher levels operate the universe from a god's perspective as if playing an entirely different game from those beneath them and are practically existing in a separate universe based entirely on their systems laws. As such Great Old Ones like Cthulhu are set to be incomprehensible to beings like humans who are below their level in every way. To this extent what is seen by humans of a lower level is not truly their body and is instead merely a faucet of their true, endless selves. Whether it be common physical meaning, aesthetics, mechanics, or even Euclidean Geometry, they are unbound from such things. Cthulhu is considered one of the strongest Great Old Ones and should be beyond those of the lower ranks)
Likely Outerverse level+ (The Cthulhu Universe operates using a non-mainstream timeline setting which includes timeline splitting and infinite variables. This would mean Cthulhu Universe contains a 1-A+ number of Timelines with Great Old Ones both affecting it and being superior to it to some extent.)
Glaaki (Tier; 1-C, likely 1-A)
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Complex Multiverse level (The Cthulhu Universe has three systems of superimposed layers of laws consisting of normal laws, abnormal/deformed laws, and inexplicable/baffling laws, with each next level of laws being completely beyond the logic of the last. These laws split the Cthulhu Universe into four levels with there being no way for a lower level to ever access a higher level. To beings who exist within the higher levels, everything engaging in lower levels of laws such as humans and modern-day science is akin to bacteria. These higher levels operate the universe from a god's perspective as if playing an entirely different game from those beneath them and are practically existing in a separate universe based entirely on their systems laws. As such Great Old Ones like Glaaki are set to be incomprehensible to beings like humans who are below their level in every way. To this extent what is seen by humans of a lower level is not truly their body and is instead merely a faucet of their true, endless selves. Whether it be common physical meaning, aesthetics, mechanics, or even Euclidean Geometry, they are unbound from such things. Glaaki is a Great Old One considered much weaker than Cthulhu but is still made up of Inexplicable laws and should be beyond those of the lower ranks)
Likely Outerverse level+ (The Cthulhu Universe operates using a non-mainstream timeline setting which includes timeline splitting and infinite variables. This would mean Cthulhu Universe contains a 1-A+ number of Timelines with Great Old Ones both affecting it and being superior to it to some extent.)
Tsathoggua (Tier; Low 1-C, likely 1-A)
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Low Complex Multiverse level (The Cthulhu Universe has three systems of superimposed layers of laws consisting of normal laws, abnormal/deformed laws, and inexplicable/baffling laws, with each next level of laws being completely beyond the logic of the last. These laws split the Cthulhu Universe into four levels with there being no way for a lower level to ever access a higher level. To beings who exist within the higher levels, everything engaging in lower levels of laws such as humans and modern-day science is akin to bacteria. These higher levels operate the universe from a god's perspective as if playing an entirely different game from those beneath them and are practically existing in a separate universe based entirely on their systems laws. As such Great Old Ones like Tsathoggua are set to be incomprehensible to beings like humans who are below their level in every way. To this extent what is seen by humans of a lower level is not truly their body and is instead merely a faucet of their true, endless selves. Whether it be common physical meaning, aesthetics, mechanics, or even Euclidean Geometry, they are unbound from such things. Tsathoggua's only inexplicable law is his ability to devour, meaning he is made of deformed laws)
Likely Outerverse level+ (The Cthulhu Universe operates using a non-mainstream timeline setting which includes timeline splitting and infinite variables. This would mean Cthulhu Universe contains a 1-A+ number of Timelines with Great Old Ones both affecting it and being superior to it to some extent.)
Eihort (Tier; Low 1-C, likely 1-A)
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Low Complex Multiverse level (The Cthulhu Universe has three systems of superimposed layers of laws consisting of normal laws, abnormal/deformed laws, and inexplicable/baffling laws, with each next level of laws being completely beyond the logic of the last. These laws split the Cthulhu Universe into four levels with there being no way for a lower level to ever access a higher level. To beings who exist within the higher levels, everything engaging in lower levels of laws such as humans and modern-day science is akin to bacteria. These higher levels operate the universe from a god's perspective as if playing an entirely different game from those beneath them and are practically existing in a separate universe based entirely on their systems laws. As such Great Old Ones like Tsathoggua are set to be incomprehensible to beings like humans who are below their level in every way. To this extent what is seen by humans of a lower level is not truly their body and is instead merely a faucet of their true, endless selves. Whether it be common physical meaning, aesthetics, mechanics, or even Euclidean Geometry, they are unbound from such things. Eihort is an existence on the same level as Tsathoggua, who only has one inexplicable law which is his ability to devour, meaning he is made of deformed laws)
Likely Outerverse level+ (The Cthulhu Universe operates using a non-mainstream timeline setting which includes timeline splitting and infinite variables. This would mean Cthulhu Universe contains a 1-A+ number of Timelines with Great Old Ones both affecting it and being superior to it to some extent.)
Civilization Levels
Important Abilities
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The Transduality Type 3 for Outer Gods & Great Old Ones is mostly based on Nyarlathotep's Chaos and the Inexplicable Laws that are formed from them.
The Transduality Type 3 for Independent Civilizations who have become Taiyi Universes is based on following Negative Theology towards any description of it. The Cthulhu Universe is a part of the Taiyi Universe so it is unexplainable even compared to Nyarlathotep's Chaos and Inexplicable Laws.
Lastly, the Cthulhu Universe exists within the 3rd Dimension of Cosmology, so if the profiles above are accepted the 3rd Dimension will become "likely, High 1-A", and the 4th and everything past that point will become "likely, 0". This is simply raising everything up a Tier based on the very bottom of the Cosmology being raised up.
Agree: Gasper, Rakih_Elyan, Vasco, Lewis, Elizhaa
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Count me in on the agree list
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Later, it'll be added along side some other stuff.Looking at this page, it should be added as well as the cosmology that it is based on is directly introduced in this CRTTest Page 27
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but wtf is a flying noodle god and where can I buy oneLooking at this page, it should be added as well as the cosmology that it is based on is directly introduced in this CRTTest Page 27
Count me in on the agree list
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It's an anomaly based on a real religion if you look it up.
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LMAOO
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Yes, the Author based the entire anomaly on it, including the fact pirates are divine beings.
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can I buy it
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Elizhaa has accepted everything so far;
- Outer Gods & Great Old One's Profiles as well as their AP Ratings.
- Likely 0 Cosmology boost due to AP Ratings
- Transduality Type 3 for Evil Gods & The Taiyi Universe
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Thank you. Given that this is a potential tier 0, we need more input though.
@Ultima_Reality @DontTalkDT @Qawsedf234 @KingPin0422 @Pain_to12 @Everything12 @Planck69
Would any of you be willing to help out here please?
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Sure, later in the day I will go through it
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Damn, a lot of people when seeing this thread is going "nope"
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Well most people are not knowledgeable in tier 0 stuff, only a few people do
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The last thread only took half a month, so this one should be done by February.
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Can you one more time call staff?
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@Ultima_Reality @DontTalkDT @Qawsedf234 @Pain_to12 @Everything12 @Planck69
Would any of you be willing to help out here please?
Also, knowledgeable members for this verse, can you write comprehensive but easy to understand explanations posts for the relevant discussion so far here please?
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I forgot, but if friday comes, i should be free to go through it
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Bump almost forgot this thread existed
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Can I see the blog detailing the reasons for the Ap section, as there is not much to go off on based on the OP alone
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There is no blog for the Cthulhu Universe. Which parts are you confused about.
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The most confusing thing is probably the timeline splitting and the reason why it can be categorized as tier 1A+. Even though it has been discussed in the previous fiction addition thread.
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