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Because it's Absolute Information, and it automatically scales above any kind of improvement in the verse that is not Absolute Information. Which includes stuff like Reactive Evolution.
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Blue And White Verse | Adding Cthulhu Universe Profiles | Civilization Levels
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That seems to just be inaccessibility, not an actual resistance
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Well in this case it's resistance, cause it scales to Reactive Evolution stuff.
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Why do characters even get a resistance to this? It’s not an ability that actively affects a character
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Actually I also don't like placement in the resistance category because of Reactive Evolution ability itself. Unfortunately it's much more confusing to categorize it where
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Ngl, I didn't see Ovy's post, let me actually reply to that.
It's just High 1-B to the power of High 1-B, there is no mathematical wall stopping you from just power setting from Low 1-C to 1-A+, their cardinals but not inaccessible cardinals.
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High 1B to the power of High 1B is Aleph 1, no?
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Yes, that's why I'm saying there is no reason why it mathematically can't go any higher than High 1-B.
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Sure, but why would it? As he said, it just seems like an extension of this already High 1B hierarchy.
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I agree the resistance to re does kinda look like they straight up can't be reached
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What High 1-B Hierarchy?
Well, it's easier then me having to explain this each time.
"Character A is also Baseline 1-A, but they have Reactive Evolution so they can go up to High 1-A."
"Well, Yog-Sothoth has a Tier 0 ability that says he's unreachable from improvement."
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That doesn’t seem like a legit resistance
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Well like I said, I don't know how else to list it. They need to know their Reactive Evolution, Accelerated Development and Statistic Amplification won't actually work. And if I can't list it as resistance then where should I list it?
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Maybe it can be listed in Negation?
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Well it's not negating it, they CAN improve, but that improvement will never actually surpass the Outer Gods.
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Yeah you're right. They only limit ability to never surpass them, not resistance or nullify...
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Ya it's confusing, you can use it, and you can use it against me, but it will not reach the result you desire. I guess I could list it as Power Modification.
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It's confusing. Like the more I think, the more I think of different abilities lol. Like it could be their own RE, power modification, Stats reducing? (Probably not, or maybe[???]), or something that let's them stand at a level above what the other RE can reach
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Stat reduction sounds the most accurate to me.
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They do not reduce, only limit an ability to be equal or surpass them.
For example, you can still increase your stats with Accelerated Development, but the stats you increase will never match your opponents
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I meant in the sense that your stats will permanently reduced so it doesn't hit a certain level.
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You use set theory to describe things. It must be correct in the basis of logic. you avoid problems claiming to be just a novel.That's like saying that if you don't talk about mathematical theorems/theory, you'll never get to H1A
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So, I needed to ask some people who know more about set theory than me, but it seems that the math checks out, however, the logic behind it doesn't as superimposing multiple variables when creating timeline possibilities will actually be N*N instead of N^N, so all those superimposed timelines and stuff would only be Aleph 1 (Low 1-A in our tiering system).
But the verses threats it like N^N and not N*N, soooooo I dunno
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But the verses threats it like N^N and not N*N, soooooo I dunno
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It must be of the form 2^{omega} or 2^{aleph 0} =aleph 1, in which we use the axiom of replacement and axiom of power set to prove that there are irrational ≥ more irrational
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This is N*N not the N raised to poer N.
it is practically each variable creating infinite possiblities at least that is what the scan said, each variable creates infintie new possiblities
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basically two variables that are superimposed on each other are N^N. But two variables are only N*2
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The book says that n possibilities of n variables cause n^n timelines and interpolate it to infinite possibilities causing infinity^infinity timelines and so on with the infinite timelines again forming another level of timelines and so on.
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Bump
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What about the other two scans that would mean N*N?
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Which?
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this one
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No contradictions from what I can see.
Each variable/action generates Infinite Possibilities which is what those two scans say. When 2 variables/actions exist the verse follows the logic that they superimpose one another making it N to the Nth power.
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I think Ultima and DT should be called to verify because it is a high tier character.
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in a specific case where two variables were superimposed, that is not the case with all variables. you need to tell us why all variables would naturally be superimposed
Cause i think it is best to just go with
Countless combination and permutation
countless possiblitles
infinite possibilities.
timelines splitting infinitely.
All these are straightforward and do not have to do with "when" or "if"
well it is still a bit confusing so hopefully the OP can clear up what I dont understand here
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