Bleach General Bankai Discussion Thread

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Why won't it happen? I'm not sure about Liltotto's feat. I'd prefer 10 seconds myself, but the Mimihagi feat seems safe. At worst, I can see 30 seconds which would put it at baseline Sub-Rel. Raven already explained in his blog.

 

[Frantzy12]

I'm sure your aware that some people think it should be 1 minute because they can't have their way.

 

[The_mysterious_man]

because it was an outlier nothing beyond Mach 4000 will be applied

 

[Frantzy12]

Outlier?

 

[Frantzy12]

I don't think uk what your talking about.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Raven himself already knows about the one minute suggestion, and he explained in a reasonable manner on why 30 seconds should be used as opposed to one minute. Nothing's happening to that Sub-Rel speed.

 

[Frantzy12]

We will see once we compile it all.

 

[The_mysterious_man]

it was an outlier like everything else

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Lol, I understand what you mean. But the Negacion and light in Las Noches aren't considered to be real light in the first place.

 

[Malikobama1]

Just to confirm, sub-rel Bleach IS still happening? I don't really see why it shouldn't.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

They will still be sub-rel, just not as high into it.

 

[LordGinSama]

Well we still need our Auswählen calc done and accepted since that's what the Sternritter and Captains will scale to ( Movement and reaction speed )

 

[Malikobama1]

Well Auswahlen was light beams, so I imagine Liltotto would get some kind of sub-rel and so would all the other Sternritter/Captain tiers.

Also has anyone tried calcing the Negacion beam Yoruichi and Soifon dodged in the SS Arc? That might be arguably as light too.

 

[Frantzy12]

it's not light by vs wiki standards.

 

[LordGinSama]

We did both actually. Assuming they're real light the Auswählen would be Relativistic + and the Negacion would be Relativistic but we didn't accept it as LS.


@Wrath of Itachi


They'll be the same speed. 10 seconds was actually a low ball but we're being safe

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Just checked, and something about vertical and horizontal lines was pointed out.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

@Knight I'm confused, don't we assume 1 minute for feats that don't have a stated timeframe?

 

[Frantzy12]

that was debunked Burning because there were no horizontal lines.

 

[Frantzy12]

The calc is good,we just cna't use the LS value and prob 2 seconds.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Yoruichi's feat was Sub-Rel+ assuming it was real light, but Kep pointed out some things wrong with the calc, so I dunno what the true result would have been.

 

[LordGinSama]

@Knight I'm confused, don't we assume 1 minute for feats that don't have a stated timeframe?

No that'd be downplayed to hell. Mimihagi straight up scared Urahara with his speed. Context matters.

 

[Frantzy12]

There was another calc,but it was argued to be "not real sunlight' since the sky was artificial.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Yeah, that was Shrek's calc.

 

[Frantzy12]

That's like saying a flashlight doesn't produce a real light no?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I don't know. But since it's artificial light, I'm sure it'd be more scrutinized than something like Negacion for example.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Also, I want to ask about something. Is Askin's ability affecting Ichigo an outlier / PIS? I've been thinking that's the case because Vollstandig Askin couldn't really put Urahara down with The Deathdealing, and he said himself that it wouldn't be enough to kill Urahara which is why he used Gift Ring.

But base Askin easily faceplanted Ichigo.

 

[Frantzy12]

Not an outlier at all, his power is pretty broken if you don't 1 shot him. It doesn't have anything to do with AP and etc.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I wouldn't ask about it if he didn't admit himself that his ability in Vollstandig isn't enough to put down Urahara, when he could easily do it to Ichigo in base. I'm saying it doesn't make sense.

 

[AstralKing7]

outlier

 

[Frantzy12]

Do you have a scan of this? or chapter reference? I vaguely remember it. He was going to 1 shot Urahara with Gift Ball Deluxe.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

He was going to kill Urahara in his death because the potency of Gift Ball Deluxe increases in the event of his death.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

He essentially used Gift Ring because Gift Ball Deluxe in Vollstandig wasn't enough.

 

[Frantzy12]

Kubo posted this in his twitter


Look at the shirt

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Oh, wow.

Detergent: Bleach Next Generations.

 

[AstralKing7]

yes!!! My collection is almost complete!!: Boruto, Kazui, Asta, Gon, Mitsuki, Killua, Natsu's son. Hehe just imgain that cross over in J-stars

 

[HST_Master]

"Little League"

Kazui plays sports? Or is it for Karin?

 

[AstralKing7]

does anyone know what it actually say?? I thought the shirt said sequel lol

 

[Rocker1189]

It does say sequel.That is definitely an s.

 

[AstralKing7]

yes!!

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Even if it is a sequel, expect it to be either a one-shot or a very short series.