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Everyone scales the same because the only calc they have to scale is Shiki's fruit.Blackbeard scales to MF Crocodile???
Also i brought Crocodile up because of plot hole the people here are the ones that keep bringing that up
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Everyone scales the same because the only calc they have to scale is Shiki's fruit.Blackbeard scales to MF Crocodile???
Oh, yeah, that's AP, not Dura.To work together and break out of Impel Down. After that Luffy was supposed to let Croc do whatever he wants.
But the second they got to Marineford, Croc tries to attack WB and Luffy stops him.
Yeah, but one of them DOWNscales, and the other UPscales.Everyone scales the same because the only calc they have to scale is Shiki's fruit.
Make a CRT, we can give him accelerated development, or weaken him, who knows?Also i brought Crocodile up because of plot hole the people here are the ones that keep bringing that up
Marineford Luffy oneshots Alabasta Luffy.Exacly because from Alabasta to Marineford it cant be more than a few months if so
Please prove to me that Jinbe is stronger than Sanji.Jimbe already got stronger than Sanji, and maybe weaker now that he got his boost from his DNA
Lol lack of information gives them enough to "downscale"Yeah, but one of them DOWNscales, and the other UPscales.
Make a CRT, we can give him accelerated development, or weaken him, who knows?
The point is that we upscale certain devil fruits from that power, like Akainu's and Sickbeard's.Like i said none of them should even scale to begin with its an ability its not even an attack
Thats the problem.Marineford Luffy oneshots Alabasta Luffy.
Jinbe scaling to Big mom while Sanji is barely scaling toPlease prove to me that Jinbe is stronger than Sanji.
Big Mom didn't even spit blood she just got knocked away ( like her being knocked off the rooftop by a rock ) plus she was hungry and deluded.Thats the problem.
Jinbe scaling to Big mom while Sanji is barely scaling to
Like i said it makes no sense to do that.The point is that we upscale certain devil fruits from that power, like Akainu's and Sickbeard's.
Strongest Paramecia > Other ParameciasLike i said it makes no sense to do that.
Characters get stronger over time.Thats the problem.
I appreciate this, but are you saying Big Mom and Who's-Who are on similar levels? Because Jinbe isn't even using Haki here.Jinbe scaling to Big mom while Sanji is barely scaling to
EVERYONE!? Just the God & Top tiers scale to that value: Yonko, Admirals & some people who can put up a fight with these guys. Most of the Pre-Timskipe Era doesn't exist to you? Even a majority of the Post-Timeskip doesn't scale to those value either. No one in Fishman Island, Punk Hazard, Dressrosa scales to that value. Other than Big Mom, nobody else in Whole Cake Island scales to that either. Even as late as Wano there are plenty of character who don't scale that high.Everyone scales the same because the only calc they have to scale is Shiki's fruit.
Is really blood spit that allows you to scale?Big Mom didn't even spit blood she just got knocked away ( like her being knocked off the rooftop by a rock ) plus she was hungry and deluded.
Lol funny you say that so Strongest paramecia is gonna scale with the teleportation of the paramecia door fruit. BEcause apparently thats how it worksStrongest Paramecia > Other Paramecias
The time he was in jail without being able to train?Characters get stronger over time.
Who's who got clapped by Jinbe going seriously. You cant even see his hand unless you count for that black shadow on his armI appreciate this, but are you saying Big Mom and Who's-Who are on similar levels? Because Jinbe isn't even using Haki here.
Spitting blood, cracked bones, etc.Is really blood spit that allows you to scale?
Showing damage does.Is really blood spit that allows you to scale?
No, it scales... stronger. So it's more powerful. It has more power than the door fruit.Lol funny you say that so Strongest paramecia is gonna scale with the teleportation of the paramecia door fruit. BEcause apparently thats how it works
You said he barely spent any time in there or out of there, rather in some third place.The time he was in jail without being able to train?
Yeah. And Jinbe isn't using Haki here, plus he had training time between this and Who's-Who.Who's who got clapped by Jinbe going seriously. You cant even see his hand unless you count for that black shadow on his arm
First he was there for little time
Seriously, where was he if he was barely inside OR outside? Was he like, nonexistent for a bit? Did he go into the Matrix?He barely had any time outside
Yeah, I just want to know about when Crocodile went to the Matrix.this is kinda derailing, at this point we can keep arguing about this in General chat or someone can make a CRT about it if they don't like it.
And everyone that scales with them over anything, we already saw the difference between yonkou commanders and yonkous but somehow most of whitebeard commanders scale the same thats how crocodile ended up scaling with juzo because he scaled with mihawk that scaled with whitebeard. Thats basically saying all of them are on the same level might as well make Crocodile win over kaidou.EVERYONE!? Just the God & Top tiers scale to that value: Yonko, Admirals & some people who can put up a fight with these guys. Most of the Pre-Timskipe Era doesn't exist to you? Even a majority of the Post-Timeskip doesn't scale to those value either. No one in Fishman Island, Punk Hazard, Dressrosa scales to that value. Other than Big Mom, nobody else in Whole Cake Island scales to that either. Even as late as Wano there are plenty of character who don't scale that high.
Pretty sure Robin hurt Big momShowing damage does.
More powerful means its stronger in every way, after all if Whitebeard can scale over an ability such as Shiki to move islands then he can scale with everything.No, it scales... stronger. So it's more powerful. It has more power than the door fruit.
HE barely spent anytime period he was in jail for the whole time until he was jailbreak by luffyYou said he barely spent any time in there or out of there, rather in some third place.
So did sanji and he had his haki broke by Black Maria while Jinbe was tanking all of Who's who attacksYeah. And Jinbe isn't using Haki here, plus he had training time between this and Who's-Who.
He did and he met his son Luffy and his husband DragonYeah, I just want to know about when Crocodile went to the Matrix.
Well, here's the thing, people who can oneshot each other still scale to the same value sometimes.And everyone that scales with them over anything, we already saw the difference between yonkou commanders and yonkous but somehow most of whitebeard commanders scale the same thats how crocodile ended up scaling with juzo because he scaled with mihawk that scaled with whitebeard. Thats basically saying all of them are on the same level might as well make Crocodile win over kaidou.
Sounds impressive, but it wouldn't be surprising.Pretty sure Robin hurt Big mom
Goku is more powerful than Luffy, that doesn't mean he's stretchier.More powerful means its stronger in every way, after all if Whitebeard can scale over an ability such as Shiki to move islands then he can scale with everything.
He was outside of time?HE barely spent anytime period he was in jail for the whole time until he was jailbreak by luffy
Ok, so does Who's-Who scale to Big Mom? He forced Jin to use Buso.So did sanji and he had his haki broke by Black Maria while Jinbe was tanking all of Who's who attacks
Must've been during the third of the movie I slept through.He did and he met his son Luffy and his husband Dragon
Not when the scaling is well madeWell, here's the thing, people who can oneshot each other still scale to the same value sometimes.
But you are not saying that and you are not saying that Goku is gonna scale to luffy because he stretched for being hit by a trainGoku is more powerful than Luffy, that doesn't mean he's stretchier.
He spent the whole time in jail that was a few weeks a month or so since luffy went to alabasta until marinefordHe was outside of time?
Apparently he does doesnt he?Ok, so does Who's-Who scale to Big Mom?
They also had a son in the matrix luffy's biological brother that was sent back in time and become joyboyMust've been during the third of the movie I slept through.
No, if you oneshot someone, you upscale from that person.Not when the scaling is well made
What?But you are not saying that and you are not saying that Goku is gonna scale to luffy because he stretched for being hit by a train
But you said he barely spent time there.He spent the whole time in jail that was a few weeks a month or so since luffy went to alabasta until marineford
Odd.Apparently he does doesnt he?
No, you dont scale at all so it a random dude doesnt die from Superman's punches the dude is now universal durability?No, if you oneshot someone, you upscale from that person.
Shiki has an ability that allowed him to move islands being stronger doesnt mean Whitebeard can move the same islands as Shiki did but scaling to him you are assuming that much.What?
So thats how you gonna try it? Making jokes because you have nothing else to say?But you said he barely spent time there.
Thats the same feeling i had when i saw Crocodile scaling on JuzoOdd.
If you feel this strongly about the scaling issues why not make a CRT?Thats the same feeling i had when i saw Crocodile scaling on Juzo
No. But Superman would scale up from that dude.No, you dont scale at all so it a random dude doesnt die from Superman's punches the dude is now universal durability?
His fruit has X amount of power. Physical power. Hence, the ones stronger than it have similar physical power.Shiki has an ability that allowed him to move islands being stronger doesnt mean Whitebeard can move the same islands as Shiki did but scaling to him you are assuming that much.
It's the truth.So thats how you gonna try it? Making jokes because you have nothing else to say?
He downscales.Thats the same feeling i had when i saw Crocodile scaling on Juzo
Because there is a limit of CTR that can be open about the same verseIf you feel this strongly about the scaling issues why not make a CRT?
Marco wasn't shown to get stronger.Its funny how Crocodile could become stronger in jail but Marco kept his power equal to the point every admiral is scaling to FTL because of him scaling to king
OddBecause there is a limit of CTR that can be open about the same verse
Marco retired to being a doctor on Sphinx, how would he get much stronger?Its funny how Crocodile could become stronger in jail but Marco kept his power equal to the point every admiral is scaling to FTL because of him scaling to king
Because there is a limit of CTR that can be open about the same verse
I mean that doesn't mean you can't make one at all, that just gives you time to build your arguments for when there is space for a CRT.Because there is a limit of CTR that can be open about the same verse
Screw Marco, they don't even need him to scaleMarco kept his power equal to the point every admiral is scaling to FTL because of him scaling to king
But thats exacly what you are doing here assuming Juzo went all out against Crocodile assuming mihawk went all out against Juzo and so onNo. But Superman would scale up from that dude.
Ther is no physical power devil fruits are not energy based are hax abilities. And again first you are assuming that somehow Akainu has the same energy as Shiki which is not haki based for sure, then you are assuming that akainu has the same level of control over his fruit as ShikiHis fruit has X amount of power. Physical power. Hence, the ones stronger than it have similar physical power.
That you dont understand that he spent all the time in prison?It's the truth.
Sure, just like that dude downscales from supermanHe downscales.
How did Crocodile get stronger on prison? Also his abilities with his fruit are related to his medical abilities since they can heal so heal people is also trainning for himMarco retired to being a doctor on Sphinx, how would he get much stronger?
That gives them SoL reaction and maybe speed not FTLScrew Marco, they don't even need him to scale
Sick WB: Intercepts light
The Admirals: React to him
Old Rayleigh: Intercepts light too
Kizaru: Parries Rayleigh's slashes
I did that for a Marvel character and they closed my thread without much though into it, not gonna make the same mistakeI mean that doesn't mean you can't make one at all, that just gives you time to make your arguments for when there is space for a CRT.
You'll accomplish more by doing that than complaining in an unrelated CRT.
Also as long as it's not a topic related to an ongoing CRT you can definitely make one of your own on the same verse.
He used HakiBut thats exacly what you are doing here assuming Juzo went all out against Crocodile assuming mihawk went all out against Juzo and so on
This is all falseTher is no physical power devil fruits are not energy based are hax abilities. And again first you are assuming that somehow Akainu has the same energy as Shiki which is not haki based for sure, then you are assuming that akainu has the same level of control over his fruit as Shiki
But you said it was barely anyThat you dont understand that he spent all the time in prison?
Did the dude get back up?Sure, just like that dude downscales from superman
Whitebeard intercepted like 5 beamsThat gives them SoL reaction and maybe speed not FTL
Rayleigh's feat was calced at FTL & Kizaru dueled him for 2 chapters, combat speed.That gives them SoL reaction and maybe speed not FTL