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Sure, but you need to modify your blog post accordingly.so do you forgive me?
TMK Bill had enough knowledge to help Ford make a machine to reach the Nightmare Realm. I don't see why he would get it via hax. I'll need a quick recap for why his hax would scale.Now that I am editing my blog for cosmology, can I get your thoughts on 5-D Nightmare Realm?
I didn't say it for Bill, I did for the Nightmare Realm, and I also got one more proof that Bill would actually destroy the universe, not the multiverse. In the Gravity Falls Diary special edition, it was stated that Bill would destroy the universe and Time Baby. This is spoken by the time-traveling person, so with high probability the Time Baby was talking about the universe. Ford was proving this at the beginning of the diary by stating it will likewise Bill destroy the Gravity falls' own reality.TMK Bill had enough knowledge to help Ford make a machine to reach the Nightmare Realm. I don't see why he would get it via hax. I'll need a quick recap for why his hax would scale.
Here it isI would like to see again the link of him originating from a higher plane of existence. If it's indeed correct, Low 2-C with stats and Powers is good
These two linksAlso, link for being able to destroy the universe on his own would be great as well
Bill didn't, it was Ford's classmate. However, since Bill can still destroy all the existence and was about to make it completely lawless via the process of the Weirdmageddon, but couldn't remain in the nightmare realm due of it eventually collapsing, Low 1-C would be via Weirdmageddon only and not via physicals.TMK Bill had enough knowledge to help Ford make a machine to reach the Nightmare Realm. I don't see why he would get it via hax. I'll need a quick recap for why his hax would scale.
@Gilad_Hyperstar thoughts?
Physics and Law hax are already covered from Type 4 Acausality.Bill should also resist the abilities of the Weirdmageddon wave, which turned Soos' Grandmother into a chair (Transmutation), turned a totem alive (Life Manipulation), and the river flowing uphill (Physics and Law Manipulation)
What about Immeasurable speed btw, I forgot to ask also that.
Higher Plane, Transcending Multiverse, 5-D calculusThat would just be higher into 2-A, it would not give tier 1
That part was fake. New arguments are theseTranscending Multiverse
Honestly, until the Twitter statements get an actual link, I think we should make a thing like this:
Low 2-C physically, as he can indeed destroy a reality/universe from his own, and Low 1-C via Weirdmageddon, as he could still make collapse the whole reality or also making it completely lawless and mess it as he wanted to (he was still a treat to it heh), only that doesen't scale physically as he had to escape from the Nightmare Realm)
Plus Higher-Dimensional Existence as he still originates from an higher plane and was implied to be above 3Ds on a dimensional POV, so in short:
Multiverse still 5D is good as the whole Nightmare Realm is still an higher plane, a space between all the universes and to "access" it it was needed a 5D calculus, meaning that it should be Low 1-C in itself.
- 4D Physically
- Low 2-C in stats
- Low 1-C via hax
Honestly, the new ratings I've suggested got enough approvals to get applied. However, we'd need a staff member agreeing with my new suggestion.
That said, Bill should also get Higher-Dimensional Manipulation due of him messing with 5D stuff via hax.
Hax-wise he should also get:
1st key Bill should also get:
- Spatial Manipulation (Controls space)
- Rage Power and Transformation (When angry he transforms in his Monster Form, making him stronger)
- A justification for Law Manipulation, Causality Manipulation and Physics Manipulation (Stated to be able to free the reality from any kind of law and causality system)
- Electricity Manipulation (Obvious reasons here)
- Self-Sustenance (Types 1, 2 and possibly 3) due of him heavily implied to not have respiratory and nutritional needs. 3 is already adressed in stamina.
- Resistance to Extreme Cold, Cosmic Radiations, as it was shown him freerly in outer space after all, Time Manipulation (Was implied to not be bound from the flow of time), Reality Warping, Transmutation and Life Manipulation due of him not being affected from his messing up the reality with Weirdmageddon
- Type 4 Acausality should be a thing too because he was an inhabitant of the Nightmare Realm, which is lawless, and he wouldn't be affected from the laws of reality and causality being affected unlike the others, plus the flow of time thing
Speed wise, I think Immeasurable should return, according to the FAQ:
- Resistance to Quantum Manipulation (Exists in a state of quantum uncertainty, making alterations on a quantum scale against it ineffective)
- Extrasensory Perception (Could see Dipper's soul despite the latter can't be seen nor heard from regular humans)
They can qualify for Immeasurable Speed, however, if the regular dimension of time appears like a spatial dimension from their higher dimensional perspective. That is to say, that it can freely be traversed both forward and backwards, allowing them to access any point in it and move unbound by the notions of time inherent to the lower space. An example of this are the Bulk Beings from Interstellar.
Bill should, as he could freerly time travel, is unbound from time itself unlike 3Ds (who I already mentioned that for him are limited comparated to his new status of existence) and, again, comes from an higher plane.
I know the only actual evidence is him not being bound from the flow of time, but the other 2 just makes it more solid and makes it fit more the FAQ.
That possible, if that's indeed how Bill percieves time (meaning as a spatial dimension he can freely move in)What about Immeasurable speed btw, I forgot to ask also that.
Seems goodThat part was fake. New arguments are these
This kinda puts the base for Nightmare Realm being 5D even more solid thenI found something new, fourth dimensional event for the bottomless pit on the panel...
4th dimension being a thing againWhat exactly is meant in the text at the bottom?
Unreadable, should be decrypted
I don't tend to have the time to in-depth evaluate these kinds of threads. It would be better if other staff members could help out.And I'd like to also get an opinion from @Antvasima himself, since he's listed as a verse supporter too.
I'll just copy-paste the things which are discussed based on the remaining things of the blog.If somebody writes an easy to understand explanation of what still needs to be evaluated here, I can send notifications to some staff members to help you out.
Honestly, until the Twitter statements get an actual link, I think we should make a thing like this:
Low 2-C physically, as he can indeed destroy a reality/universe from his own, and Low 1-C via Weirdmageddon, as he could still make collapse the whole reality or also making it completely lawless and mess it as he wanted to (he was still a treat to it heh), only that doesen't scale physically as he had to escape from the Nightmare Realm)
Plus Higher-Dimensional Existence as he still originates from an higher plane and was implied to be above 3Ds on a dimensional POV, so in short:
Multiverse still 5D is good as the whole Nightmare Realm is still an higher plane, a space between all the universes and to "access" it it was needed a 5D calculus, meaning that it should be Low 1-C in itself.
- 4D Physically
- Low 2-C in stats
- Low 1-C via hax
Honestly, the new ratings I've suggested got enough approvals to get applied. However, we'd need a staff member agreeing with my new suggestion.
That said, Bill should also get Higher-Dimensional Manipulation due of him messing with 5D stuff via hax.
Hax-wise he should also get:
1st key Bill should also get:
- Spatial Manipulation (Controls space)
- Rage Power and Transformation (When angry he transforms in his Monster Form, making him stronger)
- A justification for Law Manipulation, Causality Manipulation and Physics Manipulation (Stated to be able to free the reality from any kind of law and causality system)
- Electricity Manipulation (Obvious reasons here)
- Self-Sustenance (Types 1, 2 and possibly 3) due of him heavily implied to not have respiratory and nutritional needs. 3 is already adressed in stamina.
- Resistance to Extreme Cold, Cosmic Radiations, as it was shown him freerly in outer space after all, Time Manipulation (Was implied to not be bound from the flow of time), Reality Warping, Transmutation and Life Manipulation due of him not being affected from his messing up the reality with Weirdmageddon
- Type 4 Acausality should be a thing too because he was an inhabitant of the Nightmare Realm, which is lawless, and he wouldn't be affected from the laws of reality and causality being affected unlike the others, plus the flow of time thing
Speed wise, I think Immeasurable should return, according to the FAQ:
- Resistance to Quantum Manipulation (Exists in a state of quantum uncertainty, making alterations on a quantum scale against it ineffective)
- Extrasensory Perception (Could see Dipper's soul despite the latter can't be seen nor heard from regular humans)
They can qualify for Immeasurable Speed, however, if the regular dimension of time appears like a spatial dimension from their higher dimensional perspective. That is to say, that it can freely be traversed both forward and backwards, allowing them to access any point in it and move unbound by the notions of time inherent to the lower space. An example of this are the Bulk Beings from Interstellar.
Bill should, as he could freerly time travel, is unbound from time itself unlike 3Ds (who I already mentioned that for him are limited comparated to his new status of existence) and, again, comes from an higher plane.
I know the only actual evidence is him not being bound from the flow of time, but the other 2 just makes it more solid and makes it fit more the FAQ.
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Would any of you be willing to evaluate the above post please?
Which are in the post aboveI'll just copy-paste the things which are discussed based on the remaining things of the blog.
Cosmic Awareness is associated with both Clairvoyance and Enhanced Senses and acts as a combination of the two that takes it to a much higher scale, allowing users to observe others from across the universe and "hear" things across such distances.
Actuallly, If you are available today, would you please give us your inputs?Hmm. No staff input yet. That is unfortunate.
What about making a whole new thread with all the new points and closing both this and the old one?Hmm. No staff input yet. That is unfortunate.