Bill Cipher NEP1 CRT

[AlexSamDen]

This kind of thought just negate your own args. You said we should ignore narrative and focus on logic cause characters can think but if its about FTL, you said the opposite only because of popularity. You are commiting a pretty big fallacy here, Appeal to Popularity.

My only appeal is to standards

The standards say that if the character can think - they have a mind

The standards also say that the wiki is aware how BS some of FTL shi is, but they can't do anything about it

That's everything I said

 

[Thermor]

My only appeal is to standards

The standards say that if the character can think - they have a mind

The standards also say that the wiki is aware how BS some of FTL shi is, but they can't do anything about it

That's everything I said

I dont see any part of the standard or even staffs mentions they have to mindless.

 

[AlexSamDen]

I dont see any part of the standard

From the NEP page

If one can think - they have a mind

a character who is able to think, and hence has a mind

Moreover, the example for NEP1 Aspect 1 is a stone

that means that the characters simply lack the aspect, in the same way that a stone lacks a soul.

A stone is soulless. So going by that logic, Aspect 3 is mindless

or even staffs mentions they have to mindless.

At least 2 knowledgeable on NEP have said that, but that's DM, so idk if I can show screenshots

 

[Thanganimator]

No and that's a problem. That's the topic I was discussing with Fine, only mindless characters can qualify for NEP1 Aspect 3

Same is true for other aspects too

Oh, that's like all NEP1 characters with aspect minds need to be mindless, I completely disagree.

 

[Thanganimator]

i mean deeper level of nonexistent aspect, and also, there are some character that capable of haxing people who lacking certain aspects, well, it fiction

What I mean is that the lack of aspects makes you resistant to that infinite layers of hax, just like the lack of soul makes you resistant to soul manipulation in infinite layers. So when you give the example of lack of concept aspects, I find it a bit confusing.

 

[Thanganimator]

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[Thanganimator]

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This CRT is dead. Can you add this NEP1 part to your future CRTs?

 

[Kellex]

This CRT is dead. Can you add this NEP1 part to your future CRTs?

My brother just be patient!

 

[SomebodyData]

This CRT is dead. Can you add this NEP1 part to your future CRTs?

What's still pending?

 

[Thanganimator]

What's still pending?

NEP1 (non-combat) and Regeneration Low-High for Mindscape has been agreed upon by Vietthai, and aspect will have 1 layer, so only one more vote from the staff is needed.

 

[SomebodyData]

Well I agree with the NEP1, but am neutral on the Regeneration - it seems more like his body was rapidly transforming than being liquified.

 

[Thanganimator]

Well I agree with the NEP1, but am neutral on the Regeneration - it seems more like his body was rapidly transforming than being liquified.

And what do you think about Aspect layer?

 

[Thanganimator]

Well I agree with the NEP1, but am neutral on the Regeneration - it seems more like his body was rapidly transforming than being liquified.

So what can I do now? Can you open his profile?

 

[SomebodyData]

And what do you think about Aspect layer?

The aspect topic seems more of a wiki wide discussion than something we'd determine in this thread alone. I'm going off my understanding / what's currently accepted across most profiles.

So what can I do now? Can you open his profile?

Well I am curious if there's any plans to establish what was said in this thread for the wider wiki. If that's the case, I wouldn't personally.

If there isn't any plans, I'd make sure I have right number of the staff votes first.

 

[Thanganimator]

The aspect topic seems more of a wiki wide discussion than something we'd determine in this thread alone. I'm going off my understanding / what's currently accepted across most profiles.

Well I am curious if there's any plans to establish what was said in this thread for the wider wiki. If that's the case, I wouldn't personally.

If there isn't any plans, I'd make sure I have right number of the staff votes first.

So I guess we should just remove the Aspect layers and only add NEP1 to the profile because this is too big a deal; aspect layers should be discussed on the wiki later.

 

[Thanganimator]

This looks fine but i will wait for Strym cause he want to say something, from his comment

Everything is done here. Data doesn't agree about Aspect layer and regeneration low-high so yeah.

 

[Vietthai96]

Everything is done here. Data doesn't agree about Aspect layer and regeneration low-high so yeah.

Did you applies the thread?

 

[Thanganimator]

Did you applies the thread?

I don't know how to apply because his page is locked.

 

[Vietthai96]

I don't know how to apply because his page is locked.

You can ask to unlock it on All-Purpose Request thread, remember to link this thread as the reason for the request

 

[Thanganimator]

You can ask to unlock it on All-Purpose Request thread, remember to link this thread as the reason for the request

Okay, I just realized it's more complicated than I thought. Is there anyone I can ask for help from?