• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Ben 10 - Tier 1 Profiles Updates from Cosmology and Scaling Revisions

Status
Not open for further replies.
Well, since the downgrade thread has been concluded, I see no problem with this one.
Actually, not quite yet. I had requested the thread to be reopned to address something else that wasn't concluded before the thread got closed, but this is my first time checking in on the site since last week due to a busy schedule and I saw that the thread got reclosed, so I made a quick continuation thread to say what I wanted.

Though, there's something else thats an issue here, even if my downgrade thread is completely irrelevant in the end. The Multiverse is 2-A in the first place because of the timestream isn't it?
 
Actually, not quite yet. I had requested the thread to be reopned to address something else that wasn't concluded before the thread got closed, but this is my first time checking in on the site since last week due to a busy schedule and I saw that the thread got reclosed, so I made a quick continuation thread to say what I wanted.

Though, there's something else thats an issue here, even if my downgrade thread is completely irrelevant in the end. The Multiverse is 2-A in the first place because of the timestream isn't it?
There's currently a 6-D and 7-D downgrade thread, you should check that for now.
 
Actually, not quite yet. I had requested the thread to be reopned to address something else that wasn't concluded before the thread got closed, but this is my first time checking in on the site since last week due to a busy schedule and I saw that the thread got reclosed, so I made a quick continuation thread to say what I wanted.
Ahh.. it's cool. I'd love everything to be thoroughly ironed out.
Though, there's something else thats an issue here, even if my downgrade thread is completely irrelevant in the end. The Multiverse is 2-A in the first place because of the timestream isn't it?
I think it's largely due to the Infinite branches and divergence of universes in the space beyond..
 
bump, this should be good to be applied right?
Yeah. I’m not sure when I’m making my thread to address Alien X specifically, so obviously any accepted changes to be updated on the profiles should be done and then the former I can get to at a later time.

So for now, these revisions should continue on as planned
 
Last edited:
Yeah. I’m not sure when I’m making my thread to address Alien X specifically, so obviously any accepted changes to be updated on the profiles should be done and then the former I can get to at a later time.

So for now, these revisions should continue on as planned
Please let us know now if you have any concerns regarding the scaling. We want to avoid as much flip-flopping as possible.
 
Please let us know if you have any concerns regarding the scaling. We want to avoid as much flip-flopping as possible.
I understand that, but like I said, my concerns with Alien X go for how he is to be tiered in general and how he’s being scaled entirely, not just with Tier 1.

These are concerns that I’d rather have a thread specifically to address, especially since there’d be a lot to uncover, stuff that I don’t have time to go into right now as I mentioned.

Plus, this thread is not just about Alien X, so it would derail the original purpose.

Bare minimum I likely won’t post anything about this for another week or so, likely longer because of my IRL schedule at the moment.
 
I understand that, but like I said, my concerns with Alien X go for how he is to be tiered in general and how he’s being scaled entirely, not just with Tier 1.

These are concerns that I’d rather have a thread specifically to address, especially since there’d be a lot to uncover, stuff that I don’t have time to go into right now as I mentioned.

Plus, this thread is not just about Alien X, so it would derail the original purpose.

Bare minimum I likely won’t post anything about this for another week or so, likely longer because of my IRL schedule at the moment.
To clarify, do you agree with the proposed reasonings for Alien X to scale to the Tier 1 Scaling Chain? If not, why?
 
To clarify, do you agree with the proposed reasonings for Alien X to scale to the Tier 1 Scaling Chain? If not, why?
Well like I said, my opinion about the scaling here is gonna take a lot more than just a briefly summarized post and will require going more in depth with how we treat Alien X and the scaling for him as a whole. Not just for tier 1

I personally don’t agree for him to scale to this, but for me to argue against it, the argument will take too long to present all the points I can muster for it, so I’d rather just tackle it in its own thread on a later occasion when I have the time to. So for the time being you can just go through with the accepted changes.

Also, I understand you want the minimize the flip-flopping, but at the end of the day, this is a normalized trend on this site that we can handle. If characters and verses can be upgraded one day and then get revised or redowngraded the very next day, waiting a week or a couple weeks for another revision is very practical and a non-issue.
 
Firestorm since the timestream isn't accepted as 6-D but the realm of the timestream is accepted as 6-D, can we see the feats of how characters scale to the realm of timestream.
 
I'm still seeing possible 6-D, so i'm asking if any if them have feats that warrant them to scale to the realm of the timestream since it's what accepted as 6-D.

Can I see the feats?
It's in the OP.
  • Annihilargh
    • Low 1-C | Released enough energy to create the Realm of the Fabric of Existence and Time Stream Cylinder and the lower structures | At least 5-D, possibly 6-D
 
I'm still seeing possible 6-D, so i'm asking if any if them have feats that warrant them to scale to the realm of the timestream since it's what accepted as 6-D.

Can I see the feats?
Before the events of annhilargh, there was no existential structure of any form. So it should scale for creating what exist afterwards.

Chrononavogator as per paradox is capable of destroying all of existence. He was aware of and made it pretty clear that timestream is included, later on its stated by eon as well that it can destroy all of cosmos (Same as venuz from maou, it should scale for this statement).
 
Last edited:
It's in the OP.
  • Annihilargh
    • Low 1-C | Released enough energy to create the Realm of the Fabric of Existence and Time Stream Cylinder and the lower structures | At least 5-D, possibly 6-D
I thought it was the realm of timestream that got accepted as 6-D and not the realm of fabric of existence and timestream cylindrical tunnel?
Before the events of annhilargh, there was no existential structure of any form. So it should scale for creating what exist afterwards.

Chrononavogator as per paradox is capable of destroying all of existence. He was aware of timestream realm and made it pretty clear that it's referring to everything, later on its stated by eon as well that it can destroy all of cosmos (Same as venuz from maou, it should scale for this statement).
No universes, space beyond, timestream and realm of timestream? And it fully confirmed?

All of existence can mean anything depending on context, at times the universe or multiverse or higher. Being aware if it doesn't mean it was included in it's destruction, eons statement means more of relating to the universe.

Venuzdonor is totally different, I don't wanna talk on it but it has a major context of being illogical and can destroy anything no matter how infinite or eternal, i'll prefer not to talk on this verse.

Does anyone have the video of Annihilargh creation and chrononavogator destruction?
 
So realm of fabric of existence and timestream cylindrical tunnel contains the timestream?

Cause I have further questions to ask.
Timestream is a whole structure. Series don't go over saying cylinder and other things. Fabric of existence is inside the timestream.
 


Before the events of annhilargh nothing existed, no structure. They went back before the creation itself. So yeah.

The videos keep talking about All timelines and Alternate reality, is it okay to add space beyond and timestream realm?
Timestream is a whole structure. Series don't go over saying cylinder and other things. Fabric of existence is inside the timestream.
Timestream wasn't accepted as 6-D but the realm of timestream, fabric of existence being inside it is fine.
To put it plainly, The Realm contains the cylindrical structure. The cylindrical structure is made up of the Fabric of existence.
I know this.
 
It's better this gets accepted so we can see what and what makes them that tier, cause now everything seemed confusing and uncertain.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top