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Ben 10 - Tier 1 Profiles Updates from Cosmology and Scaling Revisions
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Actually, not quite yet. I had requested the thread to be reopned to address something else that wasn't concluded before the thread got closed, but this is my first time checking in on the site since last week due to a busy schedule and I saw that the thread got reclosed, so I made a quick continuation thread to say what I wanted.
Though, there's something else thats an issue here, even if my downgrade thread is completely irrelevant in the end. The Multiverse is 2-A in the first place because of the timestream isn't it?
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There's currently a 6-D and 7-D downgrade thread, you should check that for now.
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Oh? I didn't know, could you link it for me please?
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Ahh.. it's cool. I'd love everything to be thoroughly ironed out.
I think it's largely due to the Infinite branches and divergence of universes in the space beyond..
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bump, this should be good to be applied right?
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Yes all the threads are done. So it's good.
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Yeah. I’m not sure when I’m making my thread to address Alien X specifically, so obviously any accepted changes to be updated on the profiles should be done and then the former I can get to at a later time.
So for now, these revisions should continue on as planned
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so what are we waiting to start applying this?
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Please let us know now if you have any concerns regarding the scaling. We want to avoid as much flip-flopping as possible.
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Nothing has been applied yet.
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I understand that, but like I said, my concerns with Alien X go for how he is to be tiered in general and how he’s being scaled entirely, not just with Tier 1.
These are concerns that I’d rather have a thread specifically to address, especially since there’d be a lot to uncover, stuff that I don’t have time to go into right now as I mentioned.
Plus, this thread is not just about Alien X, so it would derail the original purpose.
Bare minimum I likely won’t post anything about this for another week or so, likely longer because of my IRL schedule at the moment.
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right, but what is missing to be applied?
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To clarify, do you agree with the proposed reasonings for Alien X to scale to the Tier 1 Scaling Chain? If not, why?
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We preferably want to iron out issues to avoid as much flip-flopping as possible.
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Nothing really substantial...Just thoroughness and clarity basically.
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Well like I said, my opinion about the scaling here is gonna take a lot more than just a briefly summarized post and will require going more in depth with how we treat Alien X and the scaling for him as a whole. Not just for tier 1
I personally don’t agree for him to scale to this, but for me to argue against it, the argument will take too long to present all the points I can muster for it, so I’d rather just tackle it in its own thread on a later occasion when I have the time to. So for the time being you can just go through with the accepted changes.
Also, I understand you want the minimize the flip-flopping, but at the end of the day, this is a normalized trend on this site that we can handle. If characters and verses can be upgraded one day and then get revised or redowngraded the very next day, waiting a week or a couple weeks for another revision is very practical and a non-issue.
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The OP had been updated accordingly.
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I'm still seeing possible 6-D, so i'm asking if any if them have feats that warrant them to scale to the realm of the timestream since it's what accepted as 6-D.
Can I see the feats?
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It's in the OP.
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- Low 1-C | Released enough energy to create the Realm of the Fabric of Existence and Time Stream Cylinder and the lower structures | At least 5-D, possibly 6-D
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Before the events of annhilargh, there was no existential structure of any form. So it should scale for creating what exist afterwards.
Chrononavogator as per paradox is capable of destroying all of existence. He was aware of and made it pretty clear that timestream is included, later on its stated by eon as well that it can destroy all of cosmos (Same as venuz from maou, it should scale for this statement).
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I thought it was the realm of timestream that got accepted as 6-D and not the realm of fabric of existence and timestream cylindrical tunnel?
No universes, space beyond, timestream and realm of timestream? And it fully confirmed?
All of existence can mean anything depending on context, at times the universe or multiverse or higher. Being aware if it doesn't mean it was included in it's destruction, eons statement means more of relating to the universe.
Venuzdonor is totally different, I don't wanna talk on it but it has a major context of being illogical and can destroy anything no matter how infinite or eternal, i'll prefer not to talk on this verse.
Does anyone have the video of Annihilargh creation and chrononavogator destruction?
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Before the events of annhilargh nothing existed, no structure. They went back before the creation itself. So yeah.
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It means the same thing.
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So realm of fabric of existence and timestream cylindrical tunnel contains the timestream?
Cause I have further questions to ask.
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Timestream is a whole structure. Series don't go over saying cylinder and other things. Fabric of existence is inside the timestream.
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To put it plainly, The Realm contains the cylindrical structure. The cylindrical structure is made up of the Fabric of existence.
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The videos keep talking about All timelines and Alternate reality, is it okay to add space beyond and timestream realm?
Timestream wasn't accepted as 6-D but the realm of timestream, fabric of existence being inside it is fine.
I know this.
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@DarkDragonMedeus , @Elizhaa
I think we have enough staff votes to start the updates, but I'd like your input for assurance. Thank you for your time.
I'll probably get started on them tomorrow.
I think we have enough staff votes to start the updates, but I'd like your input for assurance. Thank you for your time.
I'll probably get started on them tomorrow.
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i think for you it seems confusing, not staff or knowledgeable members.
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Btw, Is the Annihilargh’s destruction treated the same as its creation or no?
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Yeah, I'm just gonna ask several questions in Questions and answer thread, If can't be proven just yet it away.
For now I'd agree.
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