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Ben 10 - Tier 1 Profiles Updates from Cosmology and Scaling Revisions
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two staff agreed, and this is just for scaling and not cosmology, shouldn't it be safe to apply?
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Apologies for the late reply to this.
My knowledge on Ben 10 is overall limited, and my involvement in the previous Ben 10 thread was primarily based on the information that was provided particularly for that CRT - as such, I'm not familiar with the Ben 10 scaling. However, assuming the information provided here is all correct, here's my judgements.
Annihilargh
Creating the time-stream should be a Low 1-C, Possibly 1-C feat, so this is straightforward. I agree.
Contumelia
I assume creating the entity (Annihilargh) that created the time-stream would qualify for being the same tier, though I don't know the context behind this feat. Assuming it is as simple as is stated, I agree.
Feedback
A little bit more tenuous on this one; I don't know what the energy absorption here entailed, and I can imagine a scenario in which absorbing the energy of something doesn't necessarily mean being able to expend that energy. I'm neutral, but I imagine clarification about the nature of the feat could push me to firmly agree/disagree.
Chrono Navigator
Assuming destroying "all of existence" does include the Time Stream (which seems like a reasonable assumption), this should be fine. I agree.
Alien X
If Alien X is established as more powerful than the Chrono Navigator, this seems quite straightforward. I agree.
My knowledge on Ben 10 is overall limited, and my involvement in the previous Ben 10 thread was primarily based on the information that was provided particularly for that CRT - as such, I'm not familiar with the Ben 10 scaling. However, assuming the information provided here is all correct, here's my judgements.
Annihilargh
Creating the time-stream should be a Low 1-C, Possibly 1-C feat, so this is straightforward. I agree.
Contumelia
I assume creating the entity (Annihilargh) that created the time-stream would qualify for being the same tier, though I don't know the context behind this feat. Assuming it is as simple as is stated, I agree.
Feedback
A little bit more tenuous on this one; I don't know what the energy absorption here entailed, and I can imagine a scenario in which absorbing the energy of something doesn't necessarily mean being able to expend that energy. I'm neutral, but I imagine clarification about the nature of the feat could push me to firmly agree/disagree.
Chrono Navigator
Assuming destroying "all of existence" does include the Time Stream (which seems like a reasonable assumption), this should be fine. I agree.
Alien X
If Alien X is established as more powerful than the Chrono Navigator, this seems quite straightforward. I agree.
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That energy which feedback absorbed was capable of creating a Timestream.
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Uh I see, if you mean if he can release that energy back to expand, yes he does. He absorbed annhilargh energy and released it back as well. @DarkGrath
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Gotcha. In that case, it should be fine. Consider me in agreement.
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Thank you for your participation.
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agree as well
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Can you elaborate a bit further please?
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@KLOL506 agrees with everything but he is suspicious about alien x scaling
@Firestorm808 agrees with everything as the one who made the thread
@DemiiPowa agrees with everything
@DarkGrath also agrees with everything
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Not suspicious but he just don't want to be involved with alien x stuff.
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Thank you, but more extensive explanations would be preferable
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Wouldn't Alien X's DNA being able to breach through the Contumelia's Extra-Dimensional Barrier qualify for Tier 1 scaling in the end?
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Like I said, Alien Xs stuff I’m going to address in its own thread, so until that’s made, you can continue on with revising the characters as you planned
Having said that, wasn’t it decided the barrier was unquantifiable? Since the ship has been damaged by things a lot weaker and the ships weaponry was not a threat tonBens regular aliens either.
That’s why AX has that note on his page, which I’m sure should apply even more with these upgrades
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Due to the metaphysical/non-physical nature of Tier 1 energy, it shouldn't be limited to its physical effects. The Extra-Dimensional Barrier was placed there for a reason, and it wouldn't make sense for it to be levels of infinity weaker than the stuff it's protecting against.
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Maybe but the barrier still has displayed inconsistent values by the Contimelias ship being able to be breeched by things that don’t have any business being tier 1/2-A or anything similar.
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the barrier was never breached at all outside of alien x's dna
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Sorry. I meant the ship.
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Wdym by that? Contamelias ship was never harmed by anything normal. Never. Ben's time cycle speed was more than enough to breach the fabric of existence. A bullet can sometimes do more damage than a bomb, one having greater range over the other just increases the effects. Do you have any proof that Ben's time cycle with the speed it was moving wouldn't be able to create hole in contamelias ship when it can breach the fabric of existence itself?
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There’s literally a note on Alien Xs page specifying the ship was damaged by Bens normal aliens and weaponry. Even currently with him being 2-A
If this was false, the note wouldn’t have been out there.
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Ben 10: Small revision
Note 2: Ben using Alien X's DNA to cut through the Contumelia's Extra-Dimensional Barrier is unquantifiable. While the Contumelia Ship was undamaged by the Annihilargh's Big Bang, it has been damaged by far less such as Grey Matter breaking one of it's metal pipes and the combined Time Cycles...
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Bump
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bump
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nothing changes much from what i am seeing
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Kay.
Still the longest downgrade thread I actually paid attention to
.Anyways, I agree with the tier 1 scaling, character and cosmology wise.
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Downgrade thread is over so there is no problem anymore.
Agree: @DarkGrath , @Firestorm808 , @KLOL506 , @DemiiPowa
No other staff seems to be interested as it's just scaling thread and everything else has already been accepted previously.
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So downgrade got debunked?
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Yeah, that thread didn't got accepted. Universe is still possibly 2A.
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for a scaling thread that it is doing nothing regarding cosmology and it is just listing characters affected by a cosmology change, i think that just we have enough staff to apply it
Churchill
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Regarding what phase of the general scaling?
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