Ben 10 Cosmology Revision

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Your proposal suggests that you go from seeing nothing in the Space Beyond to seeing something.

It's like seeing an atom. The human eye can't see it on It's own but with by 'zooming in' we can see it. Paradox just took them close for them to see it.

Ben an Co are also infidesimal in comparison to the Space Beyond. The Space Beyond is still far larger than the Annhilarrgh universe.

 

[Hellformer]

Well, for your proposal, it's either the White Void Expands or the effects of the ANLG extends past the White Void Subset and into the Space Beyond.

I would think the latter will influence the ANLG rating.

Like the latter would make the Annihilarrgh 1-B as well? Is this what you mean?

 

[Firestorm808]

Like the latter would make the Annihilarrgh 1-B as well? Is this what you mean?

If the effects go past the Subset realm and affects the higher level space of the Space Beyond, then yes.

 

[Hellformer]

If the effects go past the Subset realm and affects the higher level space of the Space Beyond, then yes.

Well then it seems you have agreed with most of my proposal so which interpretation suits better in your opinion? The former or latter?

 

[Hellformer]

Okay now I got the question. I'd prefer to go with the former but I'd still like to see Firestorm's opinion

 

[Firestorm808]

Well then it seems you have agreed with most of my proposal so which interpretation suits better in your opinion?

Patience, I haven't made any judgments yet. I was getting clarifications on the implications of your proposal.

Another point to address is the limitations of Paradox. According to his introduction episode, he ripped a hole in the fabric of reality, was sent "into the event horizon of his time tunnel," and now "exists outside of time." Where he was sent to specifically is unclear.

With the Space Beyond, we know it's beyond the "universe" and has the next one over. An area of it has the Forge of Creation. A regular person in the Space Beyond cannot see it because "It is out of sync with all time" due to a Chronal Randomization Barrier. I would think that for a Chronal Randomization Barrier to work, there must be some form of time dimension at work to randomize. It's not necessarily stated to be outside or without "time."

When we get to the white void, they demonstrate the effects of being without "Time." Time Manipulation powers don't work since it doesn't exist. According to Paradox, this timeless place is beyond even his reach. He wasn't able to show up until "Time" was there.

With this in mind, if the Space Beyond was truly without "time" Paradox wouldn't be able to take them there, and a Chronal Randomization Barrier would have no effect.

 

[Hellformer]

Patience, I haven't made any judgments yet. I was getting clarifications on the implications of your proposal.

Okay it was just a guess

With the Space Beyond, we know it's beyond the "universe" and has the next one over. An area of it has the Forge of Creation. A regular person in the Space Beyond cannot see it because "It is out of sync with all time" due to a Chronal Randomization Barrier. I would think that for a Chronal Randomization Barrier to work, there must be some form of time dimension at work to randomize. It's not necessarily stated to be outside or without "time."

When we get to the white void, they demonstrate the effects of being without "Time." Time Manipulation powers don't work since it doesn't exist. According to Paradox, this timeless place is beyond even his reach. He wasn't able to show up until "Time" was there.

With this in mind, if the Space Beyond was truly without "time" Paradox wouldn't be able to take them there, and a Chronal Randomization Barrier would have no effect.

I get your point but I think this can be resolved easily by going with the Space beyond having an extra temporal axis outside the Annihilarrgh Universe. I mean the Annihilarrgh's Hypertimeline would only be limited to traversing post and pre creation events while the Space Beyond is completely unaffected by this. And we do know that paradox does have to follow some rules so him not being able to go there was to maintain the timeloop continued.