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Ben 10 cosmology: small addition to the page

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DemonicDude said:
I agree, does this increases the size of the universe
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Naw. It is, just what it is.
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Firestorm808 said:
Seems to be the case.
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Not just omnitrix, but ben and gwen even got downloaded inside a sumo slammers simulated world and it was confirmed in the show that characters from even the game world itself can be uploaded in the outside world.

This do really confirms that ben 10 verse is made up of Data or information or a simulation (a kind of irl simulation reality theory of reality).
 
Reiner said:
Not just omnitrix, but ben and gwen even got downloaded inside a sumo slammers simulated world and it was confirmed in the show that characters from even the game world itself can be uploaded in the outside world.

This do really confirms that ben 10 verse is made up of Data or information or a simulation (a kind of irl simulation reality theory of reality).
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....that just means that the Omnitrix can turn them into data and characters being able to go outside of the game simply means they turned into real people I don't see how this confirms that Ben's universe is made of data which is definitely not the case
 
Reiner said:
Not just omnitrix, but ben and gwen even got downloaded inside a sumo slammers simulated world and it was confirmed in the show that characters from even the game world itself can be uploaded in the outside world.

This do really confirms that ben 10 verse is made up of Data or information or a simulation (a kind of irl simulation reality theory of reality).
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It's more like a conversion between matter and data than it all being data.
 
Firestorm808 said:
It's more like a conversion between matter and data than it all being data.
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Matter itself can be a information/data if simulation/programming has been done for that, it would just need to alter the programming to affect the output (information/data world). That's how many Aliens lives in their original form inside the omnitrix not in the form of Data, they has not been converted into Data but merely has been downloaded in the omnitrix or game and characters from omnitrix or game can be uploaded in the real world. So it is Data that is merely being downloaded/uploaded from one world to another. It's more in the line with irl simulation worlds.

And as per our standards, one of most of fundamentals of reality, that is information/Data inside a programming/reality.

Fundamental: These characters can manipulate information, which serves as fundamental building block of reality. This can allow characters to rewrite the world to their whims, often by programming it much like they would a virtual reality. These manipulation can come on many levels. For some it might just be the mechanism behind mundane magical abilities, while others can rewrite information to change reality, causality or the laws of nature.
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Reiner said:
Matter itself can be a information/data if simulation/programming has been done for that, it would just need to alter the programming to affect the output (information/data world). That's how many Aliens lives in their original form inside the omnitrix not in the form of Data, they has not been converted into Data but merely has been downloaded in the omnitrix or game and characters from omnitrix or game can be uploaded in the real world. So it is Data that is merely being downloaded/uploaded from one world to another. It's more in the line with irl simulation worlds.
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Except there is literally noe real proof about that
 
Gohanblanco217 said:
Or maybe they converted into Data
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? I am asking why they're not Information/Data to begin with. There is need to prove that smth has been converted from [[ ]] to {{ }} rather than it was [[ ]] and so [[ ]]. Omnitrix merely downloaded everything, nothing more, nothing less. There is no mention of anything been converted into smtg.
 
Also, Omnitrix had stored ben and gwen in their original form (output) Inside the omnitrix, not data, so they just merely have been downloaded as any regular Data/information can be.
 
Reiner said:
? I am asking why they're not Information/Data to begin with. There is need to prove that smth has been converted from [[ ]] to {{ }} rather than it was [[ ]] and so [[ ]]. Omnitrix merely downloaded everything, nothing more, nothing less. There is no mention of anything been converted into smtg.
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Because there is no proof that Ben's universe is made of DATA to begin with so no it doesn't and them being turned into game characters is simply transmutation and Data manipulation nothing else
 
Gohanblanco217 said:
Because there is no proof that Ben's universe is made of DATA to begin with so no it doesn't and them being turned into game characters is simply transmutation and Data manipulation nothing else
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Data Manipulation works on Data boi, so you proved my point.

And smth being downloaded and uploaded already means it's data. So it's smth already proved. You are saying "they may have been converted into smtg" is headcanon with no proof.
 
Reiner said:
Data Manipulation works on Data boi, so you proved my point.

And smth being downloaded and uploaded already means it's data. So it's smth already proved. You are saying "they may have been converted into smtg" is headcanon with no proof.
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You have to prove that the universe is made of Data first then you can use the"they got downloaded" as an argument .

And no it's not a headcanon turning a real person into game character simply means they got converted into Data unless it was specifically proven that this person was already made of Data
 
Gohanblanco217 said:
You have to prove that the universe is made of Data first then you can use the"they got downloaded" as an argument .
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Did you not seen the scan in the OP? It's explicitly stated "they have been downloaded inside a omnitrix" means they're data.

Gohanblanco217 said:
And no it's not a headcanon turning a real person into game character simply means they got converted into Data unless it was specifically proven that this person was already made of Data
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"They got converted into Data" when the statement is "They have been downloaded into game world". What you are saying has no evidence, you're giving Upgrade transmutation, SMTH that is not in his ability but just controlling machine and data stuff which he seems to be doing. Neither Omnitrix has transmutation.
 
Disagree lol, don't push for a type IV multiverse pls. Anodites (and thus life-force) should be made of data though.
 
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