Ben 10! Professor Paradox has immeasurable speed?

[Hellformer]

Besides from people disagreeing with immeasurable speed, I think infinite speed is pretty solid enough to get accepted because he could cross the infinite universe with the trio while taking them to the Forge of Creation.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Besides from people disagreeing with immeasurable speed, I think infinite speed is pretty solid enough to get accepted because he could cross the infinite universe with the trio while taking them to the Forge of Creation.

Should UAF Ultimate Kevin then get infinite flight speed due to traveling back to the prime Universe in a finite amount of time.

I already used him traveling in the space beyond/black void as an argument for immeasurable speed due to traveling through a higher/multiple temporal dimensions.

 

[Hellformer]

Should UAF Ultimate Kevin then get infinite flight speed due to traveling back to the prime Universe in a finite amount of time.

I already used him traveling in the space beyond/black void as an argument for immeasurable speed due to traveling through a higher/multiple temporal dimensions.

Outlier

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Outlier

Most likely.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

I already used him traveling in the space beyond/black void as an argument for immeasurable speed due to traveling through a higher/multiple temporal dimensions.

This should be correct though as moving through multiple temporal dimensions is an argument for immeasurable speed.

Outlier

 

[Hellformer]

This should be correct though as moving through multiple temporal dimensions is an argument for immeasurable speed.

Only if it serves as time travel for beings inside the lower temporality.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

BUMP!

 

[OMNIVERSAL-KING]

Agree with immesurable speed

 

[Hellformer]

Bump

 

[Hellformer]

Bump

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

BUMP!

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

BUMP!!!

 

[Hellformer]

Bump

 

[Ednaxel2]

I agree with Immeasurable combat speed

Don’t have much to say travel wise but he should be at the very bare minimum mftl+

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

if paradox has immeasurable speed why does he need a portal
bahahhahahahah

Do you Agree or Disagree with the addition of immeasurable speed for Paradox? As I explained. He moved through the Timestream prior to learning teleporting and gaining the Chrononavigator.

If being outside of spacetime doesn't give you higher speed, then why does The Enchiridion have infinite speed and possibly immeasurable speed by being outside of spacetime?

I'm assuming that you agree with the CRT then?

I agree with Paradox's infinite speed. The issue of immeasurable speed seems complicated, so I'm undecided for now.

Can I please get your opinion regarding Professor's immeasurable attack speed in the first argument.

 

[Hellformer]

Can I please get your opinion regarding Professor's immeasurable attack speed in the first argument.

That feat isn't attack speed instead it applies for travel, combat and reaction

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

For all we know, your so-called crisscrossing could be done through his spacetime travel ability rather than physically. Again, neither this nor stealing the gun before he arrived is explicitly portrayed as being achieved through sheer speed and both are subject to multiple interpretations.

As I said before. Paradox stated to have gained access to time travel via learning all of the short cuts throughout space time. That is how he timetravels and teleports but before this he needed to have moved through space and time to learn all these short cuts.
Paradox: I now have full understanding of the space time continuum. Allowing me to travel anywhere and any when I want. Within reason.
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Ben: He doesn't need a time machine. He has a map in his head.
Paradox: Exactly. I know where all the shortcuts are. I've spent a dozen lifetimes crisscrossing some Timestream.
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He could also be seen moving throughout time in the flashback. Based of this evidence and the chronology of events.
(Got trapped outside of time->crisscrossed the Timestream->learned it's shortcuts and gained timetravel->build Chrononavigator)
That is how the events transpired. Thus he would have needed to traveled the Timestream before learning the short cuts and gaining timetravel.

As I said, thinking he did it via one of his portal abilities is much simpler to interpret and makes more sense considering his abilities, rather than assuming he did it in a way only power scalers could have thought of. Anyway, I don't think I have anything more to say.

He crisscrossed the Timestream prior to gaining time travel and the Chrononavigator as only the Chrononavigator can make portals.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Outdated profile, the verse needs to be revised, and it will take me a while to do this alone, but I will revise all the profiles. (I will reply the above things)

Continuing from where we left off.
Paradox's main point for immeasurable speed is crisscrossing the Timestream via sheer speed prior to gaining timetravel and portals. As explained here.

As I said before. Paradox stated to have gained access to time travel via learning all of the short cuts throughout space time. That is how he timetravels and teleports but before this he needed to have moved through space and time to learn all these short cuts.
Paradox: I now have full understanding of the space time continuum. Allowing me to travel anywhere and any when I want. Within reason.
-----
Ben: He doesn't need a time machine. He has a map in his head.
Paradox: Exactly. I know where all the shortcuts are. I've spent a dozen lifetimes crisscrossing some Timestream.
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He could also be seen moving throughout time in the flashback. Based of this evidence and the chronology of events.
(Got trapped outside of time->crisscrossed the Timestream->learned it's shortcuts and gained timetravel->build Chrononavigator)
That is how the events transpired. Thus he would have needed to traveled the Timestream before learning the short cuts and gaining timetravel.

 

[Firestorm808]

Do we have similar profiles who were agreed by staff to get immeasurable speed in a similar way?

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Do we have similar profiles who were agreed by staff to get immeasurable speed in a similar way?

Yes a large majority actually.
The Annhilarrgh got Immeasurable speed from traveling through the Timestream and The Higher temporal dimension just like Paradox moving is space Beyond with a higher temporalD.

The Annhilarrgh's immeasurable attack speed!

The Annhilarrgh has immeasurable attack speed. The Annhilarrgh was responsible for the creation of the Timestream. The Timestream/Crosstime is super imposing Hypertimeline that orders all of creation Post-Annihilargh events from beginning to End, it orders changes and different versions of...

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Moving throughout the Timestream mapping out all of space and time prior to getting Chrononavigator and learning timetravel like Bill Cipher.

Bill Cipher

Bill Cipher is a triangular dream demon who exists in the Mind/Dreamscape and the true antagonist of Gravity Falls, secretly being responsible for many of the most important events of and leading up to the show. Years ago, Bill made contact with Stanford "Ford" Pines, posing as a muse who...

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And existing outside of the space time continuum like the Inchridion.(Don't know how this one got accepted?)

The Enchiridion

The Enchiridion, also known as The-Book-That-Is-Not-A-Book is a mysterious and immensely powerful being in the appearance of a book. Created some time a million years ago by he who would become "The Reader", The Enchiridion is thought to be a "guide of heroism" but in actuality is a sentient...

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[Firestorm808]

I suppose if it worked for Bill, it works here.

 

[REX9097]

I suppose if it worked for Bill, it works here.

Bill Ciphr Immeasurable speed CRT:

Book Of Bill - Gravity Falls (Part 1.5 , Cosmology update)

A sequel for this thread started from @ShionAH. No Bill roleplay this time, as I'll go straight to the point. Basing on all the updates given from both the Book of Bill and its recently released website, this updated cosmology blog was made. Not much is changed, outside the following: The...

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[Firestorm808]

Bill Ciphr Immeasurable speed CRT:

Book Of Bill - Gravity Falls (Part 1.5 , Cosmology update)

A sequel for this thread started from @ShionAH. No Bill roleplay this time, as I'll go straight to the point. Basing on all the updates given from both the Book of Bill and its recently released website, this updated cosmology blog was made. Not much is changed, outside the following: The...

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No one talks about speed in this.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

No one talks about speed in this.

Speed was discussed here.

Book Of Bill - Gravity Falls (Part 1, Abilities + Feat Additions)

Hello, this thread will not handle cosmology. Thanks to everyone from the community who helped me. @TheOrangeGuy09, @RedReaper616, @Accelerated_Evolution, @ZeedKZ, @StrymULTRA Special thanks to that triangle fella that I made the deal wi- WOHOHOO, HELLO HELLO VERSUS BATTLES IT IS GOOD TO BE...

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[Firestorm808]

Speed was discussed here.

Book Of Bill - Gravity Falls (Part 1, Abilities + Feat Additions)

Hello, this thread will not handle cosmology. Thanks to everyone from the community who helped me. @TheOrangeGuy09, @RedReaper616, @Accelerated_Evolution, @ZeedKZ, @StrymULTRA Special thanks to that triangle fella that I made the deal wi- WOHOHOO, HELLO HELLO VERSUS BATTLES IT IS GOOD TO BE...

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Did any staff talk about immeasurable speed or was it blanket agrees?

 

[Hellformer]

Did any staff talk about immeasurable speed or was it blanket agrees?

I think that it isn't solidified whether Bill travels beyond linear time via raw speed or not. So at most it could be time travel ability.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

I think that it isn't solidified whether Bill travels beyond linear time via raw speed or not. So at most it could be time travel ability.

It was already added to his profile. Unless a counter argument showed up. Tho he had time manipulation even before killing TB.

Did any staff talk about immeasurable speed or was it blanket agrees?

Planck69 fully agreed and DarkDragonMedeus agreed with him.

 

[REX9097]

No one talks about speed in this.

Sorry

Book Of Bill - Gravity Falls (Part 1, Abilities + Feat Additions)

Hello, this thread will not handle cosmology. Thanks to everyone from the community who helped me. @TheOrangeGuy09, @RedReaper616, @Accelerated_Evolution, @ZeedKZ, @StrymULTRA Special thanks to that triangle fella that I made the deal wi- WOHOHOO, HELLO HELLO VERSUS BATTLES IT IS GOOD TO BE...

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[Celestial_Scaler25]

BUMP!

 

[Firestorm808]

Planck69 fully agreed and DarkDragonMedeus agreed with him.

Sorry

Book Of Bill - Gravity Falls (Part 1, Abilities + Feat Additions)

Hello, this thread will not handle cosmology. Thanks to everyone from the community who helped me. @TheOrangeGuy09, @RedReaper616, @Accelerated_Evolution, @ZeedKZ, @StrymULTRA Special thanks to that triangle fella that I made the deal wi- WOHOHOO, HELLO HELLO VERSUS BATTLES IT IS GOOD TO BE...

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Can you copy and paste their statements on the matter? I'm not seeing them.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Can you copy and paste their statements on the matter? I'm not seeing them.

Sure. Not sure how to copy and paste but these links should take you directly to their responses. If that's OK?
Post in thread 'Book Of Bill - Gravity Falls (Part 1, Abilities + Feat Additions)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/book-...-abilities-feat-additions.171011/post-6683118
Post in thread 'Book Of Bill - Gravity Falls (Part 1, Abilities + Feat Additions)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/book-...-abilities-feat-additions.171011/post-6683465

 

[Firestorm808]

Sure. Not sure how to copy and paste but these links should take you directly to their responses. If that's OK?
Post in thread 'Book Of Bill - Gravity Falls (Part 1, Abilities + Feat Additions)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/book-...-abilities-feat-additions.171011/post-6683118
Post in thread 'Book Of Bill - Gravity Falls (Part 1, Abilities + Feat Additions)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/book-...-abilities-feat-additions.171011/post-6683465

So it was just blanket agrees.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

So it was just blanket agrees.

Yes.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I think that it isn't solidified whether Bill travels beyond linear time via raw speed or not. So at most it could be time travel ability.

Literally debunked many times: he very explicitly said that he gained control over the time after Time Baby was gone, aka he couldn’t have used Time Travel pre-Weirdmageddon. Also both Bill and Time Baby see time as something physical to go around. Anyways, for more info check this CRT.

 

[Firestorm808]

Yes.

Do you have any actual staff quotes regarding immeasurable being applicable in a similar situation, not blanket agrees?

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

Do you have any actual staff quotes regarding immeasurable being applicable in a similar situation, not blanket agrees?

I found a profile who has Immeasurable speed for similar reasons.

Medea Pideth Machina (Web Novel)

Medea Pideth Machina is the goddess responsible for the waves of monsters that the heroes have to fight in her bid to steadily grow more powerful. Despite her incredible power and central role in bringing the heroes from their respective worlds, she spends much of the story opposing and...

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[Firestorm808]

I found a profile who has Immeasurable speed for similar reasons.

Medea Pideth Machina (Web Novel)

Medea Pideth Machina is the goddess responsible for the waves of monsters that the heroes have to fight in her bid to steadily grow more powerful. Despite her incredible power and central role in bringing the heroes from their respective worlds, she spends much of the story opposing and...

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That didn't answer my question.

Also, it doesn't elaborate on the how/why she is able to do it.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Do you have any actual staff quotes regarding immeasurable being applicable in a similar situation, not blanket agrees?

No I can't find a CRT where the admins or member had disscussions about it. They did get accepted for all the same reasons as Paradox did.

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

That didn't answer my question.

Also, it doesn't elaborate on the how/why she is able to do it.

I'm a bit confused, wasn't your question about whether certain profiles have Immeasurable speed for similar reasons?

And checking the Speed page,
"They can dodge an attack that already has been struck, and they can strike someone even before they launched an attack."
- Further information regarding how infinite and Immeasurable compare.

Shouldn't Paradox qualify due to this metric?

 

[Aolphl]

Continuing from where we left off.
Paradox's main point for immeasurable speed is crisscrossing the Timestream via sheer speed prior to gaining timetravel and portals. As explained here.

I lost interest in this thread because I couldn't be active enough during the week. Please count me as Neutral.