Celestial_Scaler25
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So what do you agree with?
Yall gotta learn to chill a bit.Okay, and what do you think about CRT (we want your vote)
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So what do you agree with?
Yall gotta learn to chill a bit.Okay, and what do you think about CRT (we want your vote)
Are you alluding that this would upscale the Space beyond to Low 1-A?Per the Tiering System:
High 1-B: High Hyperverse level
Characters or objects who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy infinite-dimensional space. Characters who can meddle with spaces whose number of dimensions is uncountably infinite should have a "+" modifier in their Attack Potency section (High Hyperverse level+).
Low 1-A: Low Outerverse level
Characters whose power is on the level of the Von Neumann Universe. That is, they either encompass, or can affect structures which encompass, the collection including all possible dimensional spaces.
As a general rule-of-thumb, statements of being "above dimensions" and the like, whenever validly indicating a superiority over higher dimensions, fall under this tier without further context. See here for more information.
The Comic Statements:
"We are beings from an incalculable dimension that defies the limits of space and time. A glorious universe unfathomable to a primitive mind such as yours"
"My formal denomination and the breadth of my functionality are incomprehensible to a lower life from"
"The final destination of our heroic voyage on this celebrated Transdimensional vessel is a small, insignificant blue planet in this star system, on which lies our destiny"
FAQ:
Q: What tier is transcending dimensions?
A: If it refers to an actual superiority over dimensions, then there are two options available for such statements: They can either be Low 1-A, inasmuch as generic superiority over dimensions can be expressed by a structure like a proper class, a generalization of the concept of mathematical sets to collections that are deemed "too big" to be such. For example: The proper class containing all vector spaces exceeds all vector space dimensions, and this can be generalized to even wider collections.
Opinion:
I can see how the language being used can suggest a Low 1-A relationship. An incalculable, unfathomable, and incomprehensible "space" to lower life forms would still be a quantitative "space" but more than just something uncountable.
Atleast suggest something respectfullyBump your ass
If it's not gonna be H1B then it's gonna be L1A as this space is now supposedly incalculably beyond the limitations of spatiotemporality as whole or smth.I disagree via Qawsedf’s reasons. It's incalculable not because it is infinite-dimensional/above that, but because you can't calculate it with math in that context.
Bump your ass
Does Alien X and other characters that are 1-B instantly upgrade to Low 1-A?If it's not gonna be H1B then it's gonna be L1A as this space is now supposedly incalculably beyond the limitations of spatiotemporality as whole or smth.
"As a default, statements of being "above dimensions" are set at Low 1-A, and the same is applied to statements indicating superiority over "All of space and time," and similar."
YesDoes Alien X and other characters that are 1-B instantly upgrade to Low 1-A?
yeapDoes Alien X and other characters that are 1-B instantly upgrade to Low 1-A?
How in the world he would become Low 1-A, Lowest Alien X tier that I have ever seen was 3-A. Ben10 cosmology is such a while.
Cosmic Giga Chad Alien has gone through all tiers 3, 2 and 1 so why not?How in the world he would become Low 1-A, Lowest Alien X tier that I have ever seen was 3-A. Ben10 cosmology is such a while.
Alien x's tier has been changed multiple times actually soo it's not that impossibleHow in the world he would become Low 1-A, Lowest Alien X tier that I have ever seen was 3-A. Ben10 cosmology is such a while.
Yes, It so surprise that Ben10 was very under scale beforeCosmic Giga Chad Alien has gone through all tiers 3, 2 and 1 so why not?
Not really. “Incalculable” is because you can’t calculate it with math. Not because it is whatever higher-dimensional.If it's not gonna be H1B then it's gonna be L1A as this space is now supposedly incalculably beyond the limitations of spatiotemporality as whole or smth.
"As a default, statements of being "above dimensions" are set at Low 1-A, and the same is applied to statements indicating superiority over "All of space and time," and similar."
My point was that it's either a non-feat or its Low 1-A. The High 1-B justification doesn't work for the current tiering system, which is why Firestorm agreed that the statement if taken as a feat would make the space Low 1-A.If it's not gonna be H1B then it's gonna be L1A as this space is now supposedly incalculably beyond the limitations of spatiotemporality as whole or smth.
I'm not talking about it being infiniteD. I'm talking about this Omega Universe being beyond spatio-temporality as a whole similarly to what Firestorm and Qawsedf234 are saying or smth.Not really. “Incalculable” is because you can’t calculate it with math. Not because it is whatever higher-dimensional.
Do I count your vote as "agree" towards Low 1-A proposal?My point was that it's either a non-feat or its Low 1-A. The High 1-B justification doesn't work for the current tiering system, which is why Firestorm agreed that the statement if taken as a feat would make the space Low 1-A.
No. I don't think it's a feat at all.Do I count your vote as "agree" towards Low 1-A proposal?
Do you have an answer to my point of there being multiple layers of space and time in Ben 10?My point was that it's either a non-feat or its Low 1-A. The High 1-B justification doesn't work for the current tiering system, which is why Firestorm agreed that the statement if taken as a feat would make the space Low 1-A.
What do you mean you don't think of it as a feat?No. I don't think it's a feat at all.
I do agree that of it was a feat, then it would be Low 1-A though.
He’s saying they might be abstract, not bigWhat do you mean you don't think of it as a feat?
Having layers still means you can calculate it, since it's just adding a bigger thing onto an existing figure. It doesn't change any of my previous points.Do you have an answer to my point of there being multiple layers of space and time in Ben 10?
Didn't Hellformer already tackle this issue in his CRT as part of Q&A2.He’s saying they might be abstract, not big
The thing you add can just be so big, you can no longer calculate its dimensionality?Having layers still means you can calculate it, since it's just adding a bigger thing onto an existing figure. It doesn't change any of my previous points
I mean yeah, but the question is whether they can calculate in-verse, not us the consumer of the franchise.Having layers still means you can calculate it, since it's just adding a bigger thing onto an existing figure. It doesn't change any of my previous points.
No. I don't think it's a feat at all.
I do agree that of it was a feat, then it would be Low 1-A though.
If they lack spatiotemporality due to being abstract but still surpassing the limitations of dimensionality of spatiotemporality as a whole then it would still be L1A.What do you mean you don't think of it as a feat?
In the new system; no. Per the FAQ you can take a 1-D object and fold it until you have a Woden/Strong Inaccessible Cardinal through this principal. The act of being superior to something can therefore be taken to a mathematical infinite.The thing you add can just be so big, you can no longer calculate its dimensionality?
Can you please clarify your current stance regarding this CRT?I didn't say that yet. I said what tier the statements suggest.
That has been clarified in the 1st question of the CRTIncalculable is too shaky and vague for such an upgrade imo
A LOT of verses make use of words like "immeasurable" "incomprehensible" etc that while having infinity established while not coming close to having an infinite D cosmology and the word is generally used hyperbolically too
Hope the staffs agree with a logical conclusion for either of thembut a possibly L1A rating might be reasonable due to the statement of defying the limits of time and space
I've reread that answer multiple times, I still don't think that statement qualifies for H1B as infinite dimensions is a complex thing, it's a tier far beyond the scope of 1B and the statement lacks the precision that highlights the gravity of having an infinite number of dimensions.That has been clarified in the 1st question of the CRT
Hope the staffs agree with a logical conclusion for either of them
Okay sir have a good dayI've reread that answer multiple times, I still don't think that statement qualifies for H1B as infinite dimensions is a complex thing, it's a tier far beyond the scope of 1B and the statement lacks the precision that highlights the gravity of having an infinite number of dimensions.
Would either get upscaled to High 1-B or Low 1-A depending on what gets accepted.So what would happend to Alien X?