Ben 10 Cosmology: High 1-B upgrade

[Pepsimanslover_69]

I didn't say that yet. I said what tier the statements suggest.

So what do you agree with?

 

[REX9097]

I didn't say that yet. I said what tier the statements suggest.

Okay, and what do you think about CRT (we want your vote)

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

So what do you agree with?

Okay, and what do you think about CRT (we want your vote)

Yall gotta learn to chill a bit.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Neutral, imma just lurk for now

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I disagree via Qawsedf’s reasons. It's incalculable not because it is infinite-dimensional/above that, but because you can't calculate it with math in that context.

 

[MrLuk2000]

Reading over this, I agree with countless 1-B for now. Neutral on High 1-B

 

[REX9097]

I think tomorrow or Saturday will be an enthusiastic confrontation about this

 

[Hellformer]

Per the Tiering System:

High 1-B: High Hyperverse level​

Characters or objects who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy infinite-dimensional space. Characters who can meddle with spaces whose number of dimensions is uncountably infinite should have a "+" modifier in their Attack Potency section (High Hyperverse level+).

Low 1-A: Low Outerverse level​

Characters whose power is on the level of the Von Neumann Universe. That is, they either encompass, or can affect structures which encompass, the collection including all possible dimensional spaces.

As a general rule-of-thumb, statements of being "above dimensions" and the like, whenever validly indicating a superiority over higher dimensions, fall under this tier without further context. See here for more information.

The Comic Statements:

"We are beings from an incalculable dimension that defies the limits of space and time. A glorious universe unfathomable to a primitive mind such as yours"

"My formal denomination and the breadth of my functionality are incomprehensible to a lower life from"

"The final destination of our heroic voyage on this celebrated Transdimensional vessel is a small, insignificant blue planet in this star system, on which lies our destiny"

FAQ:

Q: What tier is transcending dimensions?​

A: If it refers to an actual superiority over dimensions, then there are two options available for such statements: They can either be Low 1-A, inasmuch as generic superiority over dimensions can be expressed by a structure like a proper class, a generalization of the concept of mathematical sets to collections that are deemed "too big" to be such. For example: The proper class containing all vector spaces exceeds all vector space dimensions, and this can be generalized to even wider collections.

Opinion:

I can see how the language being used can suggest a Low 1-A relationship. An incalculable, unfathomable, and incomprehensible "space" to lower life forms would still be a quantitative "space" but more than just something uncountable.

Are you alluding that this would upscale the Space beyond to Low 1-A?
I wouldn't mind if the staffs take some time to decide.

 

[Hellformer]

On a second thought, I'm leaning to agree towards Low 1-A suggestion given by Firestorm.
It would be something like a seperate Universe inside the Space Beyond which is incalculable and unfathomable i.e. it is quantifiable but also greater than uncountably infinite because it defies the limits of space and time. So this would only suggest a Low 1-A Universe existing, which by extension would make 'The Space Beyond/Omniverse' Low 1-A as well.
@Firestorm808 Correct me if I'm wrong