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That wasn't all at once thoughBabidi was able to control Yamu, Spopovich, Pui Pui, Yakon, Dabura plus some other unnamed servants at once tho I don't remember if those unnamed guys are anime only or not. But that makes at least 5 and also Vegeta who resisted it.
So Babidi's potency is less than Alien X's, but given how close they are, I'm not sure if Vegeta can resist.Yup, and that means Vegeta resists a mindhax that controls at least 5 guys at once. There is also the unnamed servants but I don't actually remember if those were anime only or not.
No, It won't be accepted.so, uh, doesn't Beerus and Champa Hakai energy extend to the capacity of obliterating both U6 and U7 which makes Hakai technically 4D?
Didn't Beerus also say that he cannot erase immortals??Except Hakai couldn't kill IZ, could it. So once again, another baseless argument.
Yeah but that’d downgrade their AP.so, uh, doesn't Beerus and Champa Hakai energy extend to the capacity of obliterating both U6 and U7 which makes Hakai technically 4D?
That's if both fight at the same time, I highly doubt that just one of them could doubt individually.If it can extend to both U6 and 7, then it probably is 4-D. Though, I believe you have to make a CRT about it or smth.
Either way, if Gogeta resists Alien X' mindhax, then he fodderizes.
What but why?Yeah but that’d downgrade their AP.
Not sure what you mean here?That's if both fight at the same time, I highly doubt that just one of them could doubt individually.
EE doesn't scale to AP. Also for everyone's info, EE also has several degrees in tier 2 just like AP does. It's the reason Mario could get erased by AX's multiversal EE despite having a resistance to low 2-C EE.What but why?
That's not how EE works, you can have an EE that work on a 3D scale (such us erasing 3D objects like space for example) All Fiction is also an example of thisTf am i reading?
EE is 4D in nature, if it was any less itd just atomization
A hax that can destroy things can have a tier/AP (take Instant Death as an example) however that wouldn't scale to your physical stats@Rikimarox2 That said... I recently had a debate where EE scaling to AP came up and he basically argued that it's quite stupid to argue EE doesn’t scale to AP when it’s really just another level of destruction, such as sub-atomizing the universe being a level of destruction.
Since in DB destruction energy is still tied to ki and Alien X’s EE is tied to his reality warping. I think it would make sense for both of them (Beerus and AX) to also be able to destroy the multiverse (or 2 universes) without erasing it and thus both get it scaled to their AP. We could potentially make a general thread for this. What do you say?
Instant death is death hax and probably conceptual at that. That doesn’t take away from EE’ing the multiverse being a next level step from sub-atomizing it. Especially for characters like Alien X and Beerus, who aren’t some 9-B’s with crazy hax. It wouldn’t scale to either of their physical stats directly tho, it would scale to AX’s RW and Beerus’ ki and from there you could potentially scale it to physical AP (in Beerus’ case easier than AX’s).A hax that can destroy something can have a tier/AP (take Instant Death as an example) however that wouldn't scale to your physical stats
U understand space/time is 4D, right?such us erasing 3D objects like space for example
Is it? Didnt knowSpace on it's own is 3-D without time being brought into the mix though.
Soul erasure sounds iffy to me too, as standart EE is both, physically and spiritually, but we haven't seen someone particularly attacking Goku's Soul in DBS without having to erase his body (matter).No? If Hakai is 4D, then goku simply has resistances to 4-D EE, and MAAAAYBE soul erasure, but that last one is iffy.
The only way Goku would be immune to 3-D hax is if his dimensionality was 4-D. His durability doesn't really matter against hax if his existence is 3-D.
Gogeta probably resists since Babidi has higher mind hax potency than Alien XAlright soooooo is mind hax gonna work against Gogeta or it's a stomp? Since looking at Omega's arguments Gogeta probably resist Mind hax
I think it was 5 peopleEdit: How many fodder did Babidi mind-control?
Didn't vegeta resist via his own will?So AX scales above 6 and Babidi controls 7, lol, never thought we'd actually have to count like this lol. Assuming willpower isn't a factor in mindhax resistance then I guess Gogeta edges out. But I'm not sure willpower isn't a factor.