Adjusting DC's God Tiers

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 23, 2016

Antvasima · Jul 23, 2016

I agree with this change.

The_Everlasting · Jul 23, 2016

Seems fine to me.

So the course of action is to adjust all of them to High 1-C and edit the description to say 11-dimensional as opposed to 12?

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 23, 2016

Yes, and I think The Presence and such should also be High 1-C, seem he can be harmed by direct creations of his.

Antvasima · Jul 23, 2016

Agreed, but we need to change the explanations on the Michael Demiurgos and Destiny of the Endless pages, as the others are scaled from them.

CrossverseCrisis · Jul 23, 2016

Okay i just basically skimmed through the thread you and Ant were in and going by the conversation of y'all's and the explanation, i think this is fine and reasonable if the DC multiverse has been repeated to be of 11 dimensions (making it High 1-C or High Complex Multiverse).

ZeoParadox · Jul 23, 2016

Oh wow, but wasn't the monitor space described as being layered beyond 11 dimensions?

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 23, 2016

. . . I don't think so? Such a mention would probably be more well known.

ZeoParadox · Jul 23, 2016

Matthew Schroeder said:
. . . I don't think so? Such a mention would probably be more well known.

Well this was linked on Cosmic Armor Superman's profile http://m.imgur.com/MgjEJDX?r

Antvasima · Jul 23, 2016

That is likely very outdated. DC is unbelievably inconsistent, so we go by the most recent coherent information in this case.

ZeoParadox · Jul 23, 2016

Antvasima said:
That is likely outdated information. DC is unbelievably inconsistent, so we go by the most recent coherent information in this case.

Alright.

Alakabamm · Jul 23, 2016

Looks fine

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 23, 2016

I can't thank Ant enough for editing the pages.

The_real_cal_howard · Jul 23, 2016

Nice job, Ant. Much appreciated.

(I think that means thumbs up)

Antvasima · Jul 23, 2016

No problem. I think that I have finished now. I would appreciate if somebody can browse through them to see if I forgot something, or screwed up somewhere.

DC52 · Jul 23, 2016

But ALL of DC is canon, so the 1-B multiverse is also canon. Perhaps a seperate tab for the 1-B multiverse?

Deity_of_Omnipotence · Jul 23, 2016

Matthew Schroeder said:
Previously, Antvasima and I had a discussion regarding the number of Dimensions in the DC Comics Multiverse.
After much discussion, it was concluded that the DC Multiverse, as currently represented under writer's Grant Morrison's cosmology, is based on 11th Dimensional String Theory, due to repeated statements from Morrison.

You can see the whole thing here .

I am asking any Admins to help with profile adjustments for the following:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Presence

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Great_Evil_Beast

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Source

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Elaine_Belloc

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Michael_Demiurgos

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lucifer_Morningstar

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gabriel_Hornblower

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Destiny_of_the_Endless

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dream_of_the_Endless

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Death_of_the_Endless

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Endless

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Desire_of_the_Endless

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Delirium_of_the_Endless

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Despair_of_the_Endless

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mandrakk_the_Dark_Monitor_(Dax_Novu)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cosmic_Armor_Superma

Any help is appreciated.

My response:

No, not at all, Grant Morisson hasn't been actively working on the DC multiverse since multiversity which has been retconned by Convergence which reintroduced the multiverse, as it stands now everyone in DC should be getting an upgrade instead of a downgrade as the multiverse in its entirety is stated to exists on a 200.000th Dimensional space which is ludicrously above what you intend on putting the characters at.

Links:

i.imgur.com/f9pdg8g.jpg

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 23, 2016

@Deity

No.

We've covered this before and Wildstorm wasn't canon to main DC in 1999.

Deity_of_Omnipotence · Jul 23, 2016

Matthew Schroeder said:
@Deity
No.

We've covered this before and Wildstorm wasn't canon to main DC in 1999.

This wasn't in 1999, just by the art you can tell this took place in the late 2000's, this is during Wildstorm's on panel induction into the DC multiverse. Plus the Wildstorm universe has ALWAYS been part of the DC multiverse as shown when the JLA was teleported to that universe back in 1997, so naaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

http://imgur.com/a/NNY57

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 23, 2016

Even if it is Canon, it's a massive Outlier. Move on

Deity_of_Omnipotence · Jul 23, 2016

Matthew Schroeder said:
Even if it is Canon, it's a massive Outlier. Move o

No lol, it's not, nothing suggest it is.

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 23, 2016

Nothing except everything in the three threads above.

Polimos · Jul 24, 2016

It was stated that there are an innumerable number of dimentions http://m.imgur.com/Xq1N0fu?r The 11 dimentions are just the know ones http://m.imgur.com/MgjEJDX?r

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 24, 2016

Rama Kusha is a low level cosmic entity, and she was likely talking of alternate / parallel dimensions.

Kryptonian_Supremacy · Jul 24, 2016

Interesting.

Deity_of_Omnipotence · Jul 24, 2016

Matthew Schroeder said:
Nothing except everything in the three threads above.

Umm, am i missing something here? I don't see anything that would even remotely come to disputing the idea of the DC multiverse being 200.000-D.

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 24, 2016

Look harder. It's simply inconsistent.

Polimos · Jul 24, 2016

Likely does not mean definitily,also it wasn't the only time that it was stated that the dc ubiverse has infinite dimentions http://m.imgur.com/1Mn0Hzt?r so yea there is a huge chance of the dc universe having infinite dimentions.

Zensum · Jul 24, 2016

Intresting , so where will Primal Monitor go

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 24, 2016

That scan is saying dimensions as in parallel worlds.

LordXcano · Jul 24, 2016

Matthew Schroeder said:
Even if it is Canon, it's a massive Outlier. Move o

Nothing in the thread linked in the OP actually give reasons for it to be an outlier you just said it didn't seem like they were that strong.

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 24, 2016

Maybe not in this, but this is the third thread.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/383088 See here for more explanation on why it is an outlier.

DC52 · Jul 24, 2016

Matthew Schroeder said:
That scan is saying dimensions as in parallel worlds.

or... it's saying that her consiousness exists across infinite dimensions or High 1-B, what it actually says..

Antvasima · Jul 24, 2016

Convergence was not stated to retcon Multiversity in any way that I know of. In addition, Multiversity introduced the idea that the number of universes in DC actually are infinite, simply lumped together in clusters of 52 each.

Grant Morrison's elaborate mapping of the DC multiverse still stands, and retconned any previous interpretations, including Warren Ellis' unscientific snowflake idea for Wildstorm, as far as I am aware.

Antvasima · Jul 24, 2016

Given that this topic has been solved, it may be best to close this thread.

Matthew_Schroeder · Jul 24, 2016

Also, Grant Morrison is going to write Multiversity Too, so his vision still stands. He practicaly shaped modern DC Comics Cosmology.

Antvasima · Jul 24, 2016

Agreed.

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