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Accelerator VS Reinhard Van Astrea
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R1) I'd say inconclusive due to Reinhard's ability to make every attack miss. On the other hand, unless his Divine Blessing system works otherwise, he can't touch Accelerator.
R2 and R3) There's absolutely nothing stopping Accelerator from scrambling Reinhard's insides with his Vector Manipulation.
R2 and R3) There's absolutely nothing stopping Accelerator from scrambling Reinhard's insides with his Vector Manipulation.
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R1 and R2 to accelerator due to convention of "hax more or less is limited by the shown stats", otherwise reinhard easily due to hax...
R3 reinhard...
R3 reinhard...
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Base Accelerator stomps both base Reinhard and Reinhard with Raid. Reinhard can't touch Accel (both for Accel being far superior in speed and for Accel's vector manipulation), and he'll kill himself with his rebounded attacks. So yeah, this is a stomp in strength, speed and hax. Not really a good match.
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Is this guy the new hip guy to spam in versus threads now?
R1 Accel stomps Reinhard due to all his powers being NLF.
R2 The same as above
R3 I dunno.
R1 Accel stomps Reinhard due to all his powers being NLF.
R2 The same as above
R3 I dunno.
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Reinhard stomps all round via wanked HAX
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Thing is that is for now a NLF. We would have to know how that works to make any conclusions about that.Reppuzan said:
Basically from what is seen the ability might as well work by applying a telekinetic force to any attack targeting reinhard. In that case a sufficiently strong attack would work (such an attack requires more energy to be diverted) and accelerator can just walk through unaffected because the force can not be applied to him properly, because of vector manipulation. (basically he would just correct his own movement by his own ability and win out in power).
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Lol. I feel like you could have made this comment 5 reinhard threads ago and maybe we'd have less of them at this pointLordAizenSama said:
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i give the fights to the people who win based on the abilitys, as far as i can remember i didnt nerf toaru chars in vs battles so far , i guess it looks like that because there arent a lot of toaru-char threads with interesting matches :/ZERO7772 said:
unfortunatly in accels case it is mostly always a more or less clear win or loss, reinhard is broken to some ridiculous extend, i would have voted in R1 and R2 for him too if we didnt have the rule of "hax is limited to stats"
EDIT: oh lol, i looked at the profiles again, reinhard is "likely country" while accel is "at least continent"lvl,
yeah, he wins in R3 too....
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GreatestSin said:i give the fights to the people who win based on the abilitys, as far as i can remember i didnt nerf toaru chars in vs battles so far , i guess it looks like that because there arent a lot of toaru-char threads with interesting matches :/ZERO7772 said:
unfortunatly in accels case it is mostly always a more or less clear win or loss, reinhard is broken to some ridiculous extend, i would have voted in R1 and R2 for him too if we didnt have the rule of "hax is limited to stats"
EDIT: oh lol, i looked at the profiles again, reinhard is "likely country" while accel is "at least continent"lvl,
yeah, he wins in R3 too....
There quiet good matches for to aru characters but maybe i always happen to see you voting for the other side xD
most of reinhard powers are NLF he is saitama V2.0 literally xD while we have clear status for accel and he should stomp reinhard with his power , but i get where your coming from he's Broken as hell
yeah accel is always clear win or clear lose i can agree on that
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^at most for mikoto or other low-lvl chars but they are not really used a lot,
touma for example loses if you put him against people without a lot of hax, and than it is also not something worth arguing about a lot because it will be "is unaffected by hax -> enemy doesnt have any other power -> touma wins due to superior body", and if the enemy hax superior body stats than touma loses, rather boring :/
fiamma is soloing most things is also boring and accel is as i mentioned earlier
touma for example loses if you put him against people without a lot of hax, and than it is also not something worth arguing about a lot because it will be "is unaffected by hax -> enemy doesnt have any other power -> touma wins due to superior body", and if the enemy hax superior body stats than touma loses, rather boring :/
fiamma is soloing most things is also boring and accel is as i mentioned earlier
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You must be kidding if you're saying he will win every fight he have regardless of how much his opponent stronger than him , his power granted him power in every fight he had in his own vers , is there person like accel in that world ? this logic is completly broken , what can he do againts planet buster as example ?Vandevin said:
There no such character in Re:Zero to say he beat his enemy no matter how strong they are so we only go by feat
and just to say this the only hax about reinhard thats always bring up is that that attacks you throw at him won't hit him , you can't make accel attacks miss he control vctors itself not just some NLF you can't hit me xD
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Maybe from to aru comparassion, reinhard ability is similiar with almighty thor. NT 10 states that if accel and almighty thor clashed, their duel will be inconclusive. But I think it just normal accel (NT 10 didnt states that its accel in angel form) so I go with accel in R2 and R3. In R1 accel will win because his speed and vector shield. Even if reinhard could evade accel attack, he cannot touch accel because his vector shield.
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Doesn't change anything really angel accel still can't beat almighty Thor and the best rescuelt he can come with is tie , don't know why the fandom hype the shit out of angel accel even though he is featlessMakina Yuki said:
"only someone with enough power to destroy the world and recreate it can beat him "
^ in ah short words you have to be planet buster to beat Thor
So yeah reinhard vs Thor would be the same
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^i think that was referring to the fact that thors power basically makes him automatically dodge attacks, not that his durability is somehow planet-lvl,
surely telekinesis users could kill him by breaking his neck :/
surely telekinesis users could kill him by breaking his neck :/
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^ I am aware sin
The fact that he can move the entire around him make him impossible to kill , he automatically hit you and automatically doge no matter what you do since he can use the world around you have to destroy it alone with him xD
If number #1 can't beat number 5# surely can't and i am not talking about other verse
The fact that he can move the entire around him make him impossible to kill , he automatically hit you and automatically doge no matter what you do since he can use the world around you have to destroy it alone with him xD
If number #1 can't beat number 5# surely can't and i am not talking about other verse
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^actually it is a matter of compatibility, accel attacks with projectiles, and if something directly affects the body? i doubt that moving the planet will somehow stop that, therefore a lvl4 telekinesis user in-story should easily defeat thor if he goes for the kill...
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^it could also be a hyperbole, kamachi uses it often to make certain incident cooler
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Anyways I doubt that reinhard could harm accel due to his vector shield. Also raid cannot beat accel because he can survive against fiamma attack that could destroy eurasia. In other words reinhard cannot beat accel.
Anyone know about reinhard ability mechanism? I mean it just only applied on attack that target him or any other condition to active it? because he still block elsa attack when he protect emilia and subaru in anime episode 3.
Anyone know about reinhard ability mechanism? I mean it just only applied on attack that target him or any other condition to active it? because he still block elsa attack when he protect emilia and subaru in anime episode 3.
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Really? His blessing including Proceeding Attack Immunity: The second attack and all following attacks misses him. I wonder why author say that instead all attack is performed at Reinhardt, it always misses.
Also is that means it only works to attack that performed to reinhard and not to attack that not target him?
Also is that means it only works to attack that performed to reinhard and not to attack that not target him?
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^ I did read it , first it say the first attack alwasy miss then it says the the follow attack's miss as well what is the point ? also if you can't really hit him why was he bothering blocking elsa attack's when he fought her
Also it seems his reaction/reflex is shit for some one with his status "he couldn't make it in time when elsa tried to attack emillia "
Also it seems his reaction/reflex is shit for some one with his status "he couldn't make it in time when elsa tried to attack emillia "
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^yeah agree, I wonder why.
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Good question why would he bother blocking if he can't be hit? Two answers one he didn't have first attack immunity and proceeding attack immunity then which i don't think is the case or two it's just pis in order to create tension, as for him not being able to reach emilia that's also pis to create tension at that point no one knew,, no one as in the viewer,just how op reinhard is and judging by how op he is he should be able to easily solve any situation, i mean throughout all the timelines reinhard was in he has never actually being killed everyone else was but not reinhard. Though having crap reflexes could just be the case i mean re zero in general has crap speed, they have disgusting hax but are lacking in the speed and probably dc department, they are like regular humans with magic abilities that don't actualy boost their physical stats.ZERO7772 said:
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So you're basically saying all of it was PS to keep some tension xD Re:Zero can sometimes force tension on your head even if it unecessary , lmao i don't even know the point of this character's in toutre **** anime he isn't evan a villian xD maybe he just a foil to subaru's character ....
His profile said he can more at superhman speed , still too shity reflex to get to elsa when he need to his character doesn't make much sense to me
His profile said he can more at superhman speed , still too shity reflex to get to elsa when he need to his character doesn't make much sense to me
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The moment reinhard arrived on the scene to fight against elsa there was no tension, well there would be if you didn't know how strong reinhard is but if you know and then look back at the fight there really wasn't any tension, even in the fight reinhard was just playing with elsa using a sword was unnessecarry elsa couldn't do anything to him even when he was unarmed. Subaru is a normal human just an in shape human yet he was keeping up with elsa while elsa reacted to and one shotted felt who was using super speed by using her blessing of the wind, now we don't know how fast felt was moving but it clearly was faster than what a normal human could do and elsa killed her easily, yet was seemingly having a hard time against subaru a normal human? Yea i call pis on top of that then reinhard the strongest in the world bar none except satella the final villan couldn't even catch up to elsa in time but subaru a normal human could react to elsa's attack and block it? You see pis again, the whole fight was filled with pis so you can't judge reinhard by that.ZERO7772 said:
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Actually i never knew he was that powerful until later , while it was obvious he was playing it didn't even make sense , reinhard vs elsa should have went like accel vs misaka xD i know dude the fight didn't make sense at all with how subaru was holding his own againt's elsa while she easily one-shouted felt before that actully made me think at first subaru is actully boy with talent seeing how he can take on elsa without any training bu he later came out as totalle weakling and said to be Average talent , i viewed that scene as subaru kept an eye at emilia while reinhard didn't which is why he could react before him but still PISCelestial Pegasus said:
Actually the total fight give a total difference view on what you were given later "Reinhard begin Godly OP , subaru begin really weak human "
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gotta go with accelerator reinhard may have dodge hax but its 80% only not a 100% which means 20% of it will fail the thing is reinhard's 60% of his powers is "magic" based dodge but accelerator in the other hand accelerator's powers is science based powers reinhard can dodge the first and second attack but accelerator will attack and attack until it hits reinhard one sure hit will put reinhard to eternal sleep oh you say reinhard ca revive him self well if accel see reinhard came back to life accel will do the same thing if that does'nt kill reinhard accel will have no choice but to use the kinetic blast since that attack can destroy all life on earth
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Huh that's not how it works, it works 100% of the time it basically makes it so that all attacks miss him, though that's an nlf to say all attacks miss him, greater hax can get through it. Accelerator takes this for now i think but by the time re zero is done and reinhard shows his full power i could very well see reinhard winning the verse already has broken hax and reinhard is the strongest in the verse once he actually fights satella he will probably have the feats to back his hype.
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