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Abeloth Upgrade

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To cut to the point I think Abeloth should be ranked as Galaxy Level for the following reasons.

1) As the strongest entity in star wars she should be far superior to Vitiate (who is already ranked as Galaxy Level) and above Sidious who was himself he strongest of all Sith

2) Repeatedly fodderized Grand Master Luke Skywalker multiple times and wa stated to be at least 12 times as powerful as him (that in itself is a strong case for Galaxy Level ranking as he is multi solar system level and is above Sidious and Vititate)

3) As stated already on her page she has repeatedly been referred to as an entity who could reshape the Galaxy as she sees fit and has beend described as a threat to the entirety of the galaxy.

4) Father said Abeloth would "tear the very fabric of our universe", which given that when as I mentioned in point 2 she was absolutely being casual in her fighting, she is again 12 times stronger than someone who is multi solar system level, she is not even truly dead as referenced by Luke himself, she could very well be low 2-C. The Father, if anyone could reliably make such a statement it would be him.

You cannot say Vitiate is Galaxy Level then have someone who is several magnitudes stronger than him be only multi solar system level. Considering the power creep from Vitiate to Sidious, then Sidious to Luke then Luke to Abeloth you could make a case for Abeloth to be High 3-C or Low 3-B. or 2-C as explained in point 4
 
Vitiate is only 3-C through the Ritual of Nathema (am sure I butchered that name) in which he would destroy the Galaxy as a consequence. Abeloth is above his usual prowess, not the Ritual, which needs time unless I forgot something.

Luke is 4-A from scaling to her. You'd be telling me Abeloth is 3-C from scaling above someone that scales down from her in the first place...? If we decide to do it scaling off Sidious and Vitiate, that's at least a few hundreds of trillions between baseline 4-B to baseline 3-C. If we did it by scaling it from The Son and Daughter who Abeloth is above, either they are a stone throw away from 3-C or we assume "12 times more powerful" is but the smallest fraction of her whole power, because from 4-A to 3-C baseline its something like 800 million times. As far as I am aware, they don't even have a +.
 
Honestly i don't know how she wasn't 3-C in the first place. The "reshape the galaxy as she desires" is pretty blantant.

Regardless, i agree.
 
At full power, she could potentially "literally reshape the galaxy in any manner she wished". Repeatedly stated to be capable of laying waste to the galaxy and bringing an end to the galactic civilization. She's also stronger than the World Razer which is said to be able to shatter the entire galaxy when it finally escapes
 
The questionable timeframe of all these feats puts me at odds for all this but eh, sounds convincing. I'll wait for any other knowledgeable member to weight in what they think.
 
Which by the way what in the world is with everyone not allowing Sidious to be able to use that 3-C ritual when he is stated to know every force ability.
 
I might be wrong, but Sith Sorcery and Force powers don't fall under the same spectrum? Not too confident on this but it felt this way. The ritual is because of Sith Sorcery.
 
Which still requires use of the force. Which Sidious knows every ability vague and common. Let us not pretend like we have never seen sidious use sith alchemy/Sith Sorcery. He should get the ruling for 3-C
 
If it was the very exact same thing, why would it have a different name and be capable of different things from usual force powers any Jedi or Sith could learn?

If its not classified as the same thing, it shouldn't be treated as the same thing evenn if there's a common source.
 
I don't know what your talking about. I said sidious has used both Sith Alchemy AND Sith Sorcery. And since he knows EVERY force ability and yes SIth Sorcery is a force ability then he should get the rating.
 
No, I am implicating that no one in the list of knowledgeable people has commented here (as far as I can see), and that for a beefy upgrade to 3-C more than one mod checking in would be preferable.

But I am no mod, so feel free to do whatever you want if you disagree.
 
Oh another thing to add, luke at his peak was dated to be so powerful that not even the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy could move him
 
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