Well, it is more that I don't want any hurt feeling and grudges to potentially severely sour our long-term abilities to collaborate in a constructive manner in this community. I personally do not particularly mind either way.
If you see a world where a person's dysphoria is worth invalidating because of the irrelevant field in a debate site is more important to contain irrelevant information, you need to get your eyes checked. This is basically admission, Damage.
Unnecessary directions.
Thank you for your judgement on what my community should instead feel like, outsider.
Can we at least agree with putting two guidelines from Community Central wiki on the site rules? That was overlooked when we keep on debating on specific points
Yes, and official organisations that genuinely represent the trans community largely decided Fandom's standards, and those of international corporations that also use them, in the first place. It would be a very different issue if any pages deliberately genuinely misgendered people. I am willing to adjust in order to maintain the peace here, but it is just not factually true to claim that your views are those of the actual majority.
Did I say something wrong?
I do want to mention that I am one of those people. I don’t even identify myself with my gender but I also don’t care to label myself with anything other than my individualist name. That’s my viewpoint.
No, just having a hard time comprehending Impress' last comment. Not to mention the tone is way too hostile and confrontational for absolutely no reason. But anyway, sticking to the topic at hand, I feel that direction is necessary and does no harm. So if others are fine with it, we should go ahead and make the changes.
Could been referred to Impress, but I am more concerned with having to link two guidelines from Fandom community central wiki as well as where this going.
When I am discussing what is offensive to prominent parts of the trans community and you say otherwise you're giving your opinions on what trans community is offended about.
Those of us who are autistic then should be bluntly familiar with getting discomforted beyond a reasonable degree to break down or resort to drastic actions when something which should look like "no issue" to others is a severe issue to you to cause distress, yet nobody seems to understand and double down against it as "well another person I know with the condition isn't afflicted, why are you so sensitive".
Okay. That is good then.
Did you also include the links from Community Central Wiki as the guidelines should been there to know that we decided to take a different approach from what they doing in their guidelines? Kinda confused anyway
Well, I am obviously sorry if you are feeling hurt about this, but the issues weren't about just knowing somebody else, it was about that actual official organisations that represent trans-people decided the standards that you are upset about in the first place, combined with that autistic people tend to be very compulsively fixated on including all available information. That is all. There is no malicious agenda at play here.
Doesn't become apparent exactly.
In.
Comprehend it is offensive, the 90 billion times I must say it, it is offensive, and causes emotional distress, it's a blatant dysphoria trigger. So don't do it.
Damage literally said to my face his "different worldview" puts transphobia at the risk of bullshit stat accuracy as valid, he isn't missing info, it's just how it is.
community.fandom.com
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Well, the first one should probably be linked to somewhere in our site rules, and it is possible that we should link to the second in our editing rules in conjunction with the new rule text that I wrote above.LGBTQIA+ Resources
Fandom is a diverse place, and we want to make sure that everyone feels comfortable and welcome. Recently we've been looking at our LGBTQIA+ community and striving to provide the right environment for people of all sexualities and gender identities. Many of the staff at Fandom are on the...Gender Identity Guidelines
Fandom is a diverse place, both in terms of our community and in the breadth of content that our wikis chronicle. Whether the topic at hand takes place in a real world setting or in a fictional construct, it is important to document and describe individuals and events sensitively and...
What should we do about two links here?
You're nitpicking every other message, it's not even about offensiveness there you're actually just making strawmen and mountains out of molehills.
Demonstrate me the exact ******* wording where I said it's about being accurate.
You believing in a way that discounts my experiences as trivial when you acknowledge it is a fact, is you dismissing facts about transphobia.
It is reasonable to expect people can realize that their opinion is uninformed or inaccurate and they retrace or at least abandon that opinion. This is basic bitch cornerstone of debating. Don't be on a debate site if you don't believe a person isn't convinceable.
If you don't see triggering someone's dysphoria or labelling them as offensive I don't see how you're not being ignorant as shit. Your statement currently is "yes I'm transphobic according to you but I am not transphobic according to myself". This is a terrible ******* look, man.
I completely disagree with applying AKM's variant of it, that's only accepted by Damage as far as I can tell,.
Well, I not familiar with Impress myself anyway. Could just us being frustrated or something. Anyway back to this part.
I am fine with that as long as we don’t cause problems with Fandom.
We will apply my version as far as I am aware.
Wait, what was your version? I hoping we account for the Fandom Guidelines as I really don’t want to push our luck with Fandom staff if they decide to do a review anyway.
So about this...
Ant make sure to take breaks and relax. I may not like some of your actions, but you are the hardest worker on this wiki for sure
Okay. Feel free to write a new suggested rule text instead then. However, make certain to try to avoid any wordings that might be deemed offensive.
Okay. Never mind then.
Thank you for the well wishes.Ant make sure to take breaks and relax. I may not like some of your actions, but you are the hardest worker on this wiki for sure
Fair enough, but it seems you didn’t post it here
Have a nice sleep.Okay. Feel free to write a new suggested rule text instead then. However, make certain to try to avoid any wordings that might be deemed offensive.
Okay. Never mind then.
Thank you for the well wishes.
That also seems outside of the scope of this thread. Can you please try to stick to the topic and not discuss stuff like this, or your earlier suggestion about how gender-based abilities function?
