A Match I will Deeply Regret: King Hassan vs Ainz Ooal Gown

[Yobo_Blue]

He actually has to damage them first though.

 

[Schnee_One]

He doesn't even need to chop the head of the enemy. anywhere will do.

So its not passive

 

[John985]

Please just read the other thread it all explains there. And re-add to the profile.

 

[Schnee_One]

<checks thread

Thaaaaats not passive

 

[John985]

Well at that time. The FGO mats is not out yet.

 

[Schnee_One]

Then why are you using the thread as proof?

 

[John985]

Well most of the question Yobo is asking was already said in that thread.

 

[Schnee_One]

And it didn't prove it was passive which is why everyone says it isn't passive

 

[John985]

Well sorry for that, it's just he needs the slice part. Others might think that Azrael is a spell but isnt.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I been playing through Camelot, and Hassan needs both possession and soul manip. He can also summon and control various spirits

 

[Solacis]

Why are we arguing whether or not Azrael will work on Ainz? Activated Azrael kills abstract concepts and bypasses durability. The passive ability being discussed is a result of Hassan's personal skill "At the Boundary" and is active at all times. Hassan has even displayed the ability to kill concepts even without moving such as when he killed the concept of communication between FGO's MC and Chaldea during his first appearance.

Not to mention that PC is passive and Ainz won't be able to detect him. AoE attacks might work, but only if Ainz leads with them. Ainz's immunity to death hax is negated since we're using Grand Assassin Hassan as per SBA.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Ainz isn't going to instantly aoe at random and since he won't be able to sense hassan until he's been killed i vote hassan

 

[Yobo_Blue]

False. He knows by default he's in combat

 

[John985]

Yeah he knows he is in combat but doesn't know where he is.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Knowing he is I'm combat doesn't mean he is going to aoe if anything he would try to locate hassan and end up dead

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Pretty sure he'd know better then to do nothing if he knows he's there.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Considering that for some reason everyone thinks it's in character for ainz to timestop first move he would time stop to try to locate hassan which wouldn't work he would then hear the bells toll and die after timestop ends

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Are we going to argue what he does first thing again?

And again you assume that what he will do in time stop and afterward is literally nothing

 

[Paul_Frank]

What can he do in timestop if he has no idea where hassan is

It is stated that he can't do any damage during timestop that's why he uses delay magic

He can't use delay magic on an opponent he can't find and I'd argue it's more ic for him to timestop if he can't find the opponent than to aoe at random

 

[Yobo_Blue]

First thing he did on the undead he couldn't find was use a spell that had a instant effect.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Hassan also has magic resistance and can teleport to ainz and use azrael

 

[Solacis]

SBA has this match's starting distance at 4 kilometres.

How wide is Ainz's AOE? If he time stops first and doesn't find someone, after exhausting his search options, most likely he'll assume that they aren't there or are too far away to detect. If he AOEs first he wastes his mana and might even assume he's already won, meanwhile Hassan is in PC ready to teleport and Azrael as soon as Ainz's guard is down.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Why is it 4km? Is that Hassan's range?

 

[John985]

Standard battle assumption is 4KM.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

It's not, that's the maximum, not the base.

 

[John985]

Then you could add the starting distance rather than SBA. But distance doesn't matter with this 2 because both can teleport.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

That's not what it means. It mean that the it starts at the maximum range of the the person with the higher range up to 4km

 

[Paul_Frank]

It should be 4km ainz has much higher range than that and hassans teleportation should give him at least 4km range

 

[Solacis]

Ainz's range is tens of kilometres with spells while Hassan's is unknown with teleportation. That makes this match start at 4km due to being the max.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

ƒæìƒÅ╗

 

[AnonymousBlank]

So Ainz has the stuff to win but fails because PC beats his Sense Enemy resulting in him getting the Ozzy treatment. Gramps decisively wrecks.

 

[Solacis]

^^^ Basically how it is. Voting for Gramps for reasons above.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

KH FRA

 

[DragonEmperor23]

KH fra

 

[Paul_Frank]

If I didn't vote yet then second best assassin fra

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Second Best

U w0t m8┬┐

 

[John985]

If I didn't vote yet then second best assassin fra

But WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THESE!! He's the best assasin! in the game.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

^^^ What Yobo said. Gramps is better then every other Assassin combined.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Sorry shiki is the goat always and forever

 

[Moritzva]

Spells against death, time, and teleportation, yet he couldn't pack some anti-invisibility.

RIP Ainz-sama.