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This is exactly why I'm confused on the set up. He puts the ring into the machine, yet says shit like he can do it without the machine. And then the demon comes out, before the characters are sent into the portal.
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I'm on phone and the battery is at 10%, so I will not see thw video.
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Charge your phone-
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It's kinda difficult to even tell what's happening in this scene, but it seems Doom needs a certain machine to BFR and/or using that machine is really the only time he's bfr'd someone?
Something like that.
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Yeah, that's why im not certain on it. Though of course, if there's other scenes where he uses portals, maybe that works, eh. Demons and shit.
speedster352
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Itโs not applicable she will just RE and beat him before that.
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I was outside and though I just come back I will need to go outside again to a little cousin birthday party.
Also 6% while writing this: I'm die, thank you forever.
If that's the case then I will change my vote to Haruka until there is more brought to argue him using bfr.
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CHARGE IT!
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I have a bit moment before go to the party so I'm using the time to charge the phone while using the pc, hope it get at least to 20% because the thing need to last the rest of the night until the party end.
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I mean Doom still has a lot of attack options to tear up the area, such as practically creating tornadoes and storms to rain down lightning. He has a lot more options then to just bfr that can help maybe put down Haruka early.
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I vote haruka
speedster352
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Again RE and then she keeps attacking and wins
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Again, RE is not going to help if it cant help Haruka gain resistance to Quantam Manipulation tech, where Doom already has a massive AP and Durability advantage thats increased even further by the black ring to nigh one shot range
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Who said it wonโt work?
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He wonโt see because of the aoe darkness he wonโt even be his hand in front of his face. Then her summons canโt be seen or sensed and are also intangible will keep attacking him until she wins she also has power moves too and passive fear aura that works on everyone not just people that can sense mana.
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No one, but it would be more believable if there's instances of it happening instead of it not. Now, has the story ever shown Haruka to be able to grow a resistance to quantum manip tech, or implied via statement?
Again, range is a factor here, and Doom attacks at a range. If this darkness you so heavily lean on as an argument has no range to speak of, then throw it out the window. And again, that's ignoring Doom's insane durability that soaks up attacks far more powerful than Haruka's own like they're nothing, so those summons won't be doing much damage here. And AGAIN again, that passive fear aura wont be doing shit if it cant reach Doom.
This isn't mentioning how Doom can even start with a Doombot in his place before he actually attacks himself, where Doombots are in his general equipment.
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@speedster352 let @YungManzi argue. Youโre clogging up the thread with the same reasoning over and over again.
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Well, no, given that quantum tech doesn't exist in the verse. But it's also worth mentioning her RE doesn't boost AP but it does boost her durability by an unknown amount even outside of granting resistance.
Although pure AP is not something she can gain resistance to, since the attacks we're referring to here aren't just physical attacks and energy based, resistance should be attainable.
Doom also has to worry about having monsters attacking him that he can't interact with. Even if he can shrug off the attacks they'd still be pestering him and occupying his time.
And even for the mamonos doom can harm she can resummon them after they've been destroyed for a period of time.
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I see, this is the coherence I'm hoping to see
What attacks are we referring to again? I sorta forgot, sorry
Yeah, they'd be pests, but I'd say he could fly around or something of he realizes there's pests around him. The summons can't fly can they? This is assuming Doom can still feel them.
A period of time is how long? Like, a temporary resurrection right?
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Doom's energy attacks.
Some of them can, yes.
It's unspecified, we don't know how long it takes we just know there's a time lag short enough for them to be re-summoned in the middle of a fight after being destroyed/killed earlier in the fight.
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I mean those energy attacks are under the same quantum manipulaton that stuff, but I guess it could work
Ah, then it's just going to be a little game of cat and mouse
god damn lightnovels
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So I believe the vote count is 3 to 3. Inconclusive?
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....what happens if it's incon? Coinflip?
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Yes, like always.
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Yeah but thatโs not really in character
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needle made from magical energy which was effecting her through the whole fight
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Voting Doom
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If you're voting for doom via BFR it's invalid since it's skeptical whether or not he can even do that here, via the discussion above.
So yeah, BFR isn't a win condition for Doom here.
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What are the reasons?
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1)Some of her hax are useless here, she still more skilled than him in CQC and his arrogance mean he will give her time to get stronger, but he got some hax she can't resist like Quantum manipulation and BFR (is it usable?)
2)her summons can be taken care of by his Doombots
3) I don't believe she is that skilled or her RE is that powerfull as Makoto's student were as a team able to fight her and the only reason they survive was because of team work
It's a bad match from the begining
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Doom can't interact with some of the summons, and neither can the bots.
That was like 6v1 with few to no summons. And Makoto's students themselves are some of the best fighters in the world.
That's true lol.
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I mean I could always go incon as a second option tbh
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It's a bad match for ME because I had to deal with the verse twice in a row
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why and the scans
EL_xWatcher1234x
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my bad, she wasn't serious with them until Makoto came (maybe)
her WOS only give resistance to this:
which make sense because Makoto was trying to finish her off without killing her so he only used status effect of low AP attacks like the magic needle
also the status effect need to be dangerous for her life for her power to activate, that's explain why it took her a lot's of time to resist the charm (no threat)
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Charm never threatened her life though.
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I've lost count of the tally, what's it now
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