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But how potent is this res and healing. Let's say she gets here head blown off, would she come back from that? Because her profile only says she had low-mid regen
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Makoto thought she could only use wings of the saint two or three more times after she was spamming it the whole fight.and even then he turns out to be wrong as she uses it more than a few times even before the High Water Spirit upgrade.
She says right there in those scans that every attack he did activated wings of the saint and she gained greater resistance and defense every time they activated.
So, as I said, any limit she has with it is unquantifiably high and would only even be achievablly reached if you can activate them with every attack you do.
Makoto thought she could only use wings of the saint two or three more times after she was spamming it the whole fight.and even then he turns out to be wrong as she uses it more than a few times even before the High Water Spirit upgrade.
She says right there in those scans that every attack he did activated wings of the saint and she gained greater resistance and defense every time they activated.
So, as I said, any limit she has with it is unquantifiably high and would only even be achievablly reached if you can activate them with every attack you do.
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She couldnโt come back from such a headshot, no.
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scans that shows it
because I'm not saying she lost it, it just get weaker with each use and was useless against Makoto's attacks
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So that's a good counter, yeah. While I'm not sure if Doom could gib with a headshot, as it's a children's show why would they show that, he could probably do a lot more damage than a needle to the neck.
Still, I wonder if there's any Dr Doom supporters that could help out with stuff such as Doom potentially using some BFR
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Yeah he would damage her and then her RE kicks in then she keeps on improving and beats doom with fear aura and darkness that is so dark you canโt see your hand in front of your face.
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Again, that is going to take a massive amount of RE because Doom already no-sells and man handles the value he scales to
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Does this Doom has doombot ?
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Well they are his standard equipment
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I was actually mistaken, since those last few uses of wings of the saint were actually her being given the power of the High Water Spirit (Although she used it again after that)
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I don't know
Fear hax shit, Doom and the black ring, Speedster being Speedster, you name it
How about your thoughts here
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The fear hax should work, but since I honestly don't remember if it reach kilometers in size (I think it reached the hundreds of meters but not much besides that) so with the initial distance and if Doom play the range game it shouldn't affect him.
The powernull will not work because he just use tech instead of magic, if she had feats nulling non magical things then it could be argued that it works, though even then I doubt it since Doom power operate in quite a deep level (quantum level). The absorption wouldn't work for basically the same reason, it absorb magic and he don't use magic, but that don't mean it would be completely useless because if it enter in the range of the aoe it should absorb Doom own mana (since everyone have mana) and take him down if all of it get absorbed.
Doom need to go with lethal moves like headshots to kill Haruka quick because the longer the fight last she become more of a problem with all her healing and growing.
Trying to use portals to send Haruka to another dimension is likely the best win con Doom have since directly fighting her will be a pain, specially because her growing will end turning the ap advantage around. Don't know however how likely is Doom to use his portals to bfr but considering his intelligence he should at least consider that option if he begin to get in troubles.
Essentially I learn to Haruka but could give the vote to Doom if using his portals to bfr is actually quite possible for him to do.
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I mean, with Doom's intelligence being, for lack of better words, high as shit, I'd say he would go for headshots and BFR if he can. He also has a huge AP and Durability advantage in the beginning, furthered by the Black Ring, and maaaaybe has Doom Bots to help out.
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her wings of saint get weaker the more their used, so bad for a long fight
this is before she was starting to get helped by the spirit
the only way she was able to keep fighting was because she had support from the water spirit
also just remember the spirit of water is local to its country (maybe can't leave?) and only helped her because it view Makoto as an enemy.
Is it still usable in the fight ?
even so Doom can still BFR her from it, right ?
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IDK, Makoto kinda suggested that that happening
Was more-so the result of WoTS being used too many times.
Spamming summons and darkness to keep doom busy until she eventually becomes stronger than him.
Also worth mentioning that while Doom has intelligence advantage, Haruka has a sizable skill advantage and RE.
Also it should be mentioned that BFR is not in-character for Doom (Itโs literally not an ability on his page), so itโs probable he just wonโt use that win condition.
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I mean he BFR'd Tony, Howard and the Mandarin to another dimension to be eaten by a demon, so it isn't out of character if he realizes "oh snap I'm getting outclassed". And what exactly is the range of this darkness. Summons can maybe be countered by Doom's Doom-Bots
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Summons canโt be seen or sensed and attack from the shadows. RE makes her unaffected by dooms attacks.
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Reminder, NLF is a thing, and uses there's evidence that Haruka can gain a resistance to technology on a quantum scale, there's reason to just ignore you. Same with the summons unable to be sensed, at this point if feels like stuff is being made up by this point with how it hasn't been presented before
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voting doom FRA + the fact that I donโt see a guy with the inability to be sensitive to mana be affected by it.
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It hasnโt been presented because it wasnโt the crux of the argument. And for a lot of the thread we were arguing under the assumption Doom is using magic so Pnull and Absorption work. Now weโre on a different talking point.
And as far as RE goes, weโre using Makoto as her limit here, in which case heโs above doom in terms of power.
but yes, she has summons that are untraceable to people with supernatural senses, and intangible.
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Weaknesses: Highly arrogant and tends to underestimate his opponents. Originally, his armor power recovery rate was slightly slower than Iron Man's armor but this flaw has been corrected. Hmmm
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Sounds contradictory to the argument that heโd immediately start headshoting Haruka.
Iโm which case btw, no clue why she canโt just dodge those given her experience, expertise, and Analytical Prediction.
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We were? I thought I said before that Doom uses Quantam Tech
Like, what power. AP? That can't br right as this is 6-B and Haruka is listed at 7 Teratons, so unless stated otherwise, go fix it
Eh, that is a problem, but unless they're far above Haruka's own power, they won't be doing much damage here
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We haven't said immediately go for headshots from what I remember, just that he'd go for them after seeing that Haruka isn't being put down
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Well, I was; since this is a magic tourney I assumed he uses magic. lol
Reactive evolution refers to resistance.
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I'm the same person who submitted Mash of course Doom is going to be on thin ice-
Ah, I see. Are you saying the RE can grant high resistances and can make Haruka grow to Makoto's power?
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Both?
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The first one. She could grow massively stronger than doom but only if we assume absorption works here, not just RE.
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But could she get resistances to quantum tech? I'm guessing she'd resist magic using the RE because light novels have the urge to have characters be resistant to magic in a magic setting
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uh... I'd have to look more at the statements surrounding Wings of The Saint to say for certain.
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Doom currently has 2 votes and 3 votes if @Expectro2000xxx sees that Doom BFRs in character. Haruka has only one official vote. Match ends tomorrow.
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I would prefer the input of someone more knowledgeable in this Doom to confirm how much he use the portals as bfr, but in principlw I could vote for him based on the fact that likely would use it with his intelligence id pushed and to make the tournament advance.
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Meanwhile Kouki stomped him while they were briefly matched.
Inco is also another good option to go, so I could go with it until the thing about Doom is more confirmed.
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