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18 and Krillin upgrade

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Ribrianne is listed as universal in both her transformed and giant forms. Android 18 kicks her ass in both these forms.

Rozie is also listed as universal in her transformed state, and Android 18 keeps up with a dude with her powers (Zarbuto), who was amped and implied to be stronger than original Rozie.

Then 18 survives inside the same black hole that restrained 17, who is also listed as universal.

And then she wasted someone (Tupper) who was completely dominating base Goku, who is also universal.

And then she took hits from Gamisaras, who in turn took hits from universal Piccolo.

Plus she also fought Cocotte and effortlesly dodged Kahseral's hits, both of whom contributed to a beam that was overpowering SSJ Kale and SSJ Caulifla.


So why is Android 18 still at large star level when literally everyone she encountered in ToP is universal? If that's about Katopesla, we also see in the recent episode that his x300 power and speed is enough to keep up with SSJ Vegeta, so even his base power shouldn't be far from base Saiyan. And so, him blitzing 18 doesn't even disprove her being universal since he is fast enough to keep up with SSJ Vegeta while 18's showings lay in base saiyan power range.

And since her performance against Shosa and Majora was similar to Krillin's, he should get the upgrade to universal as well.
 
It's better for you to moderate your tone, also we decided to discuss these after she drops in the next episode.
 
She's got plenty of evidence to be upgraded to universal already, so why even wait for the next episode?
 
We decided to evaluate all her feats together after she is ringed out. Regardless, Krillin is not getting upgraded afaik.

Please be patient.
 
I technically agree about 18, but we decided to wait and see for the moment.
 
While I do agree with 18 being upgraded, it was decided to wait for the next episode, as it was already discussed multiple times. It's probably best to close the thread and remain patient. Yes, the upgrades to 3-A and Massively FTL+ speed may happen eventually, but we can't just rush every upgrade opportunity we see.
 
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