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The U6 Namekians individually were beating up Piccolo rather easily to the extent that Piccolo said he needed Special Beam Cannon, an attack that drastically increases his AP, to actually take them downPiccolo is Ultimate Gohan level, he kept up with those U6 Namekians who were matching Ultimate Gohan.
His Special Beam Cannon easily pierced those same Namekians, even when one of them literally walked through a Kamehameha from Ultimate Gohan.
Beerus is stated to be stronger than Blue Goku and Vegeta in the Broly movieAlright then SSBKK20 Goku > Golden Frieza / Android 17 / SSB Vegeta > rest
Though scaling them above Beerus seems really odd when even Broly's power as LSSJ was only stated to be about the same as Beerus, and the same movie says Goku approaches Beerus' power with Vegeta trying to catch up to him
Like I have no idea why we scale current SSB Goku to be casually stomping Beerus
Ngl, I don't really mind ribrianne. She doesn't annoy me at all. LolDragon Ball fans when Rib
Not for this thread, make a new one with everyone scaling to 18Since Biarra scales to 18, is it ok if I make him 2-C and remove the "casual" from the part about him fighting Android 17?
Because I watched the fight and 17 wasn't that casual.
Why not just discuss Viara scaling now? His scaling is completely connected to Androids 17 & 18.Not for this thread, make a new one with everyone scaling to 18
Why would it be? Also Krillin pushed goku to Ssj but when he went blue he did it to get him mentally readyI think its fine as long as we handle the Krillin feat an outlier.
Why would it be? Also Krillin pushed goku to Ssj but when he went blue he did it to get him mentally ready
I don’t recall Krillin being stated to be weaker than Basil in the series and especially goten and trunksHmm I see that the weaker versions of DBS Gohan are 2-C. On second thought it should be fine...even if it feels "wrong"
Krillin was stated to be weaker than both Basil and Goten/Trunks
I don’t recall Krillin being stated to be weaker than Basil in the series and especially goten and trunks
Source: Trust me bro.
"Nakamura: Did I? I didn’t intend to, but… well, obviously Vegeta is right up there with Goku in terms of battle power. But personally I intended on putting more effort into the warriors like the Turtle Hermit or Kuririn, the ones who at first made you ask “why’d they bring these guys along?” Because Toriyama-sensei selected them. If he was just looking for battle power, then he would have only brought along people who could go Super Saiyan, like Goten or Trunks. I think Toriyama-sensei went out of his way to select those people as a way of telling us to have fights that would put them to good use, rather than simply having characters win by going Super Saiyan. I believe that was his aim in selecting those warriors."
Translations | Dragon Ball Official Site - The Artisans Who Made the Universe Survival Arc
English translation of the 'The Artisans Who Made the Universe Survival Arc of Dragon Ball Super, Now Reaching Its Climax' interview from the official Japanese Dragon Ball websitewww.kanzenshuu.com
And the Basil one was when Gohan and Goku had a mental battle simulation, where Gohan considered Krillin too weak while Goku was arguing that Krillin's strategic thinking is valuable.
Well it’s what he thought Toriyama was intending and he didn’t flat out say goten and trunks are stronger so that’s already an issue and the series entirely contradicts this as wellSource: Trust me bro.
"Nakamura: Did I? I didn’t intend to, but… well, obviously Vegeta is right up there with Goku in terms of battle power. But personally I intended on putting more effort into the warriors like the Turtle Hermit or Kuririn, the ones who at first made you ask “why’d they bring these guys along?” Because Toriyama-sensei selected them. If he was just looking for battle power, then he would have only brought along people who could go Super Saiyan, like Goten or Trunks. I think Toriyama-sensei went out of his way to select those people as a way of telling us to have fights that would put them to good use, rather than simply having characters win by going Super Saiyan. I believe that was his aim in selecting those warriors."
Translations | Dragon Ball Official Site - The Artisans Who Made the Universe Survival Arc
English translation of the 'The Artisans Who Made the Universe Survival Arc of Dragon Ball Super, Now Reaching Its Climax' interview from the official Japanese Dragon Ball websitewww.kanzenshuu.com
And the Basil one was when Gohan and Goku had a mental battle simulation, where Gohan considered Krillin too weak while Goku was arguing that Krillin's strategic thinking is valuable.
Just make a CRTWhy not just discuss Viara scaling now? His scaling is completely connected to Androids 17 & 18.
DoneJust make a CRT
That crt is useless if he is already accepted for being comparable to 18 he gets upgraded from this crt simple as that
That's what I'm saying but apparently people here think otherwise.That crt is useless if he is already accepted for being comparable to 18 he gets upgraded from this crt simple as that
if he’s currently large star level from scaling to 18 and then 18 gets upgraded to 2-C he’s 2-C too it’s that simple that’s what’s accepted so I’ve applied the changesThat's what I'm saying but apparently people here think otherwise.
Can't wait for everyone in the ToP to be 2-C, I agree.
This was before Krillin's martial re-awakening and additional training with 18Source: Trust me bro.
"Nakamura: Did I? I didn’t intend to, but… well, obviously Vegeta is right up there with Goku in terms of battle power. But personally I intended on putting more effort into the warriors like the Turtle Hermit or Kuririn, the ones who at first made you ask “why’d they bring these guys along?” Because Toriyama-sensei selected them. If he was just looking for battle power, then he would have only brought along people who could go Super Saiyan, like Goten or Trunks. I think Toriyama-sensei went out of his way to select those people as a way of telling us to have fights that would put them to good use, rather than simply having characters win by going Super Saiyan. I believe that was his aim in selecting those warriors."
Translations | Dragon Ball Official Site - The Artisans Who Made the Universe Survival Arc
English translation of the 'The Artisans Who Made the Universe Survival Arc of Dragon Ball Super, Now Reaching Its Climax' interview from the official Japanese Dragon Ball websitewww.kanzenshuu.com
And the Basil one was when Gohan and Goku had a mental battle simulation, where Gohan considered Krillin too weak while Goku was arguing that Krillin's strategic thinking is valuable.
Idk either.This CRT is about 18 and Ribrianne and it's already been settled, idk why we're discussing Krillin
Been there, done thatIdk either.
Do you at least agree that Viara, who scales entirely to 17 and 18 (and was also willing to fight Dyspo and Toppo to distract them but that's not real scaling) should get a 2-C bump?
Thanks a lot, homie.Been there, done that
From ShosaThere's absolutely no way krillin is scaling. What are his 2-C feats?
we could close the crt igThis CRT is about 18 and Ribrianne and it's already been settled, idk why we're discussing Krillin
If Krillin is accepted as Large Star level from hurting Shosha and Shosha is 2-C from scaling to 18 doesn’t that mean Krillin should be 2-CIf we wanna talk about Krillin feats, there's two worth mentioning. I'll bring them up here for the sake of answering Omega's question but let's not go beyond that.
- Fighting Shosa, who can damage 18
- Taking a surprise attack from Final Form Frost and coming out fine afterwards (he was eliminated yeah but he wasn't very hurt)
Shosa should just be considered not 2-C material.If Krillin is accepted as Large Star level from hurting Shosha and Shosha is 2-C from scaling to 18 doesn’t that mean Krillin should be 2-C