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This is Saiyan Saga Goku and Android Saga Yamcha being used, both in-character and the fight takes place in the Budokai tournament arena. Both sides have canonical knowledge of each other, or at least Goku has knowledge of Yamcha up to the end of the Saiyan Saga.
Goku :
Yamcha :
Incon :
This is a continuation of this dis-continued thread:
https://vsbattles.com/threads/ssj3-goku-4-b-4-a-justification-change.142242/
Though I am not proposing for this to be an AP feat, more specifically a range and speed feat
This will also only temporarily be in the calc forum, after the calc...
Manga DBZ Goku VS Heisei Godzilla
Rules:
•Speed Equalized
•Starting Distqnce from each other is 100 Meters
•1994 VS. Spacegodzilla Key is used and goji has access to the spiral heat ray
•Buu saga Goku key is used and can transform into super sayain transformations
•Both in character
So ye
: P...
This is Manga Cell Games Super Saiyan Goku and Anime Saiyan Saga Base Goku being used with access to Kaioken, speed is equalized and the fight takes place on an indestructible lifeless planet with a breathable atmosphere.
Manga Goku : 2
Anime Goku :
Incon : 1
I know, this is the same song and dance again, but I had intended for that previous thread get closed on purpose to see everyone's reactions and arguments against the suggestions for the upgrades. I think to start things off, let's get the biggest argument against the upgrade out of the way:
I...
As established in previous threads, the worlds of Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball are one and the same, and that the canons of the Dr. Slump anime and manga are the as well, with the establishment that the Earth and the Solar System is much larger than our own.
This thread will be used to look at...
I'm sure someone's done this already by now but this is Buu Saga Goku with his Dead Body vs Awakened Garou before he started fighting Saitama, Speed is Equalized and both start at High 4-C but can go higher if they need to. The fight takes place in Otherworld. Please try to not get toxic with...
Post-Muscle Tower Goku and Post-Volume 3 Scott are being used
Scott Pilgrim's Attack Potency is 10.5 tons of tnt
Speed is equalized and Goku has prior knowledge of Scott's powers
Who wins?
Goku:
Scott:
Suddenly Xeno Goku shows up and destroys both of them:
This time we're using Post-Yardrat SSJ Goku VS Android 19
* SBA is used (Both are 4-C+, starting distance is 10 meters apart)
* Battle will be in the Cell Games Arena
* Fight is to the death (Either Goku kills 19 or the other way around). The fights are aware of this and will act accordingly...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Z)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/BoBoiBoy
Post-Original BoBoiBoy and Saiyan Saga Goku is used.
Goku starts off with Kaioken while BoBoiBoy starts Supra fusion.
Kaioken X3 and X4 is restricted
Speed equalized.
Both are 100 m
I can't believe I'm making this
Raditz Saga Goku and Base Orange are being used
The Annoying Orange has access to all of his optional equipment
Starting distance is 200 meters and speed is equalized
Who wins?
Orange Fruit: Spilxson2
Orange Alien: Fezzih_007
Inconclusive
Story: She-hulk sues Goku for raiding her pantry, and he tries to beat her up.
Speed is unequalized, and anything above 9-A is restricted.
Battle takes place in an empty courtroom
Somehow worse than Black Widow:
Monke: @AceOfSpaces3709, @jojo123, @ShionAH, @Tots_Real, @Mariogoods...
Two angry Saiyans take on two angry demigods.
Standard Battle Assumptions
Speed equalized.
High 5-A Versions used.
Battle takes place in TOP.
Goku and Vegeta (Frieza Saga) vs Asura and Yasha (Episode 21)
Who wins and why?
Ok, so I've been doing some research done in DBZ manga and the DBZ anime, and after looking at some previous calculations I would like to suggest that Goku and Piccolo should be upgraded to 5A during the raditz saga or saiyan saga, as well as anyone that scales to them.
The reason I am...
I'm talking just about the SS2 and SS3 multipliers since we do accept SSJ as a x50 boost in AP and speed.
The main argument against the use of these multipliers (x2 and x4 for SS2 and SS3, respectively) is because they're portrayed as huge boosts in the series (Gohan being weaker than Cell as a...
Mecha Frieza vs Goku
Battle location: Namek
Both in-character
Mecha Frieza and Frieza Saga SSJ Goku are used
Frieza: 7 (@Nullflowerblush, @Kin201, @Vizer04, @jojo123, @Gilad_Hyperstar, @BlastX, @CiscoTheSoto)
Goku:
Inconclusive:
Goku vs Might Guy
Battle location: Valley of the End
Starting distance: 50 meters
Both in-character
Speed is equalized
Saiyan Saga Goku and Eighth Gate Guy are used
Kaio-Ken: 7 (@UchihaSlayer96, @denzeelmao, @OneRhasstyBoi, @Dread, @TauanVictor, @Godernet, @Panache_x)
Eight Gates:
Oozaru...
Goku vs Garou
Battle Location: City Z
Goku is bloodlusted
Goku has prior knowledge of Garou's skill and abilities
Speed Equalized
Saiyan Saga Goku and Low 5-B Monster Garou are being used
Goku:
Garou: 10 (@XSOULOFCINDERX, @CiscoTheSoto, @Kachon123, @Megaraptor149, @Maverick_Zero_X, @Baken384...
Currently, we have King Cold listed as Small Star level+, i assume by scaling him to 50% Frieza.
However, this can't be true since Frieza believed his father could be of help against Goku as a Super Saiyan:
We know that 50% Frieza was much weaker than SSJ Goku as he effortlessly dodged his...
So on Gotenk's profile, his pre-RoSaT SSJ is said to be above SSJ3 because of the Daizenshuu saying that he, quote, "surpassed the power of Vegeta and the others".
However, as @Gilad_Hyperstar pointed out in another thread:
"It doesn't include Goku because he was dead, This is why it was said...
OK, so I know that we can't use SSJ2's multiplier since no way would Gohan have been able to demolish Perfect Cell with just a 2x boost, something I 100% agree with.
HOWEVER, from what the anime and manga of dbz have both shown, the 4x multiplier for SSJ3 seems far more sensible since it makes...
Vegeta said that he would need Goku's help to fight Frieza
Goku thought that he could defeat 2nd Form Frieza
Therefore, Goku (and Ginyu since he was comparable to Goku) should downscale to 489.4 Ninatons (Dwarf Star level)
Son Goku (DBZ) VS Ryūko Matoi
Fight Location: Here
Starting Distance: 5m
Both in-character
Equalized speed
BoZ / Raditz Saga Goku | Kisaragi Ryūko
Goku:
Ryūko: 1 (@Nierre)
Inconclusive:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Supergirl_(DC_Super_Hero_Girls)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Vegeta_(Dragon_Ball_Z)
Vegetas first key is used
speed equal
Vegeta: 7
super girl:
incon:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Z)#Super_Saiyan_3
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Amaterasu_(%C5%8Ckami)
Buu Saga Super Sayian 3 Goku Used
Ryoshima Coast Amaterasu used
Both are 4-B
Speed is equal
Goku:
Amaterasu:
Incon:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Z)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Toei)
manga SS3 full powered goku vs base buu saga toei anime goku (both are 4-b)
speed is equal
forgive me if this is a stomp
toei:
z manga:
incon:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Son_Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Z)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Omni-Man_(Image_Comics)
Base Ginyu saga goku is used
speed is equal
goku:
omniman:
incon:
On a page of the Japanese Manga. The Supreme Kaioshin says Kid Boo hundreds of stars ago.
https://prnt.sc/zs2jpu
"Hundreds of stars have turned into dead stars in just a few years.".
Ok so ever since goku actually got a speed calc for him(Finally, thank god) people are measuring him now. Now I have no problem with this, but here's the main issue. SOME PEOPLE REALLY THINK THAT IS HIS ABSOULUTE MAXIMUM SPEED. People are really ignoring his abilities that has been stated to...
The last thread was bloody closed before i had the chance to even reply to any comments. So i made a new one because the whole thing was derailed.
But anyway i was wondering Why isnt dbz manga goku multi solar system as a ssj3.
I gave the comparasion that king piccolo preformed a city level...
Why isnt dbz manga goku multi solar system as a ssj3?
The fact that as a ssj2 he's already stronger than ss2 teen gohan and super perfect cell says alot
Ssj2 gohan and cell were pouring more energy into their attacks mutiple times after cell made the initial claim that he gathered enough...