King Cold upgrade to 4-C

[Vizer04]

Currently, we have King Cold listed as Small Star level+, i assume by scaling him to 50% Frieza.

However, this can't be true since Frieza believed his father could be of help against Goku as a Super Saiyan:

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We know that 50% Frieza was much weaker than SSJ Goku as he effortlessly dodged his Death Beams:

And even when he didn't dodge Frieza's attacks, he wasn't affected in the slightless:

Therefore, i suggest to upgrade King Cold as "At most Star level", scaling him to Frieza at his 100%.

 

[Qawsedf234]

And even when he didn't dodge Frieza's attacks, he wasn't affected in the slightless:

He was effected. It caused him to bleed from the mouth.

But for the thread

Cold the Great

King of the universe

First Appearance: chapter 329

Special Characteristics: Freeza’s father. He is a shadowy presence in the organization, and nobody knows of his existence apart from his family and his direct subordinates, not even the Ginyu Special-Squad. Though he’s the head of the strongest family in the universe, he is somewhat inferior to Freeza.

Idk, "At least Low 4-C+" covers "Somewhat inferior" in my view.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Frieza said even at 50% of his power that nobody managed to dodge his death beams. That would probably means that King Cold is < 50% Frieza

Frieza also mentioned that he would be enough to finish SSJ Goku himself with his Mecha Frieza form, but that King Cold helping him would just make it easier

 

[Theendzero13]

Cold is stated weaker than freeze in a ton of suplementary material , he cannot scale to 100%

 

[Vizer04]

Cold is stated weaker than freeze in a ton of suplementary material , he cannot scale to 100%

He can be slightly weaker than 100% and still be Star level.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The thing is that "At least Low 4-C+" already covers about everything.

 

[Theendzero13]

He can be slightly weaker than 100% and still be Star level.

Yeah , the thing is that we do not know if the slightly weaker is refering to 50% or 100% , you can argue that both make sense for a couple of reasons , the problem is that other (more recent) sources claim stuff like "freeza was stronger than cold since birth" or that "freeza was always on a league of its own" ignoring the slightly weaker part altogether
Like , i can get behind "at least 4-C+, possible higher" but anything above is too questionable

 

[Vizer04]

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[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Only staff can tag other members. You need to personally contact them so they'd show up

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

I believe "At least Small Star level, possibly higher" makes sense.

 

[Confluctor]

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I will do it for you

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[Damage3245]

The thing is that "At least Low 4-C+" already covers about everything.

I agree.

 

[Vizer04]

It's almost like no one read the OP...

 

[GodlyCharmander]

We did read it, it's just not convincing, or solid enough.
I agree with Qwased

 

[Vizer04]

Then you read it wrong

 

[Vizer04]

Qwased

Qawsed*

 

[DaimaouAshura]

I believe "At least Small Star level, possibly higher" makes sense.

This or what Qawsedf234 said.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I believe "At least Small Star level, possibly higher" makes sense.

I can get behind this.

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Don't really see the difference between "At least Small Star level+" and "At most Star level"

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I think I'm in agreement with Qawsed.

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[DivineAura44]

For the point of accuracy I agree with the OP but the difference here is so miniscule it hurts my head.

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Vizer04]

Bump

 

[Nullflowerblush]

"They say that from the moment he was born as King Cold's son, Freeza was already more powerful and more cruel than the king."

 

[Vizer04]

"They say that from the moment he was born as King Cold's son, Freeza was already more powerful and more cruel than the king."

That's the reason i suggest to upgrade King Cold as "At most Star level" and not outright Star level

 

[Nullflowerblush]

"At least Small Star level+" does the same thing.

 

[Vizer04]

Anyway, i'm willing to concede on this argument. This can be closed as many users (including some staff members) disagreed.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

If King Cold < Frieza, and Frieza < Super Saiyan Goku, King Cold has no grounds to backscale from Goku. Hell, Mecha Frieza was confident he could take Super Saiyan Goku on alone, completely disregarding Cold at that point.

so yeah.

 

[Vizer04]

This can be closed as many users (including some staff members) disagreed.

 

[Damage3245]

Okay, I'll close this.