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Deltarune should be allowed to have a verse page and profiles: The reason used for this to not be the case is that the story is incomplete, just that. This is a pretty bad thing to say and for many reasons, if a new, idk, Star Wars trilogy comes up we don't wait for anything past the first film...
As said time ago, I'd like to merge Flowey and Asriel's page as they are the same character, and I'll explain why.
Flowey reffers to Asriel as himself and viceversa
There are plenties of evidences that they are basically the same character in the course of events and not a thing like Emiya...
Why do we have different profiles for Asriel and Flowey? Aren't they literally the same entity in different forms? The Asriel we fight in game is just Flowey after gaining the equivalent of 7 human souls. It's been bugging me for a bit now.
I'll start this with a heads up, as I was discovering some of this things my own internal bias briefly somewhat prevented me from being as reasonable as I could about this matter. With this in mind, I would like to mildly ask everyone evaluating this to try their best to remain partial about...
Now that CRTs are allowed and no one made an Undertale CRT in a looong time, is finally time to make my move about the verse.
SOUL Attacks, the return
The reason why the SOUL Attacks got removed, is because the damage on it is reduced from putting just an armor, so the damage in fights is just...
I've found this blog that gives a certain size about Undertale Multiverse
I'd suggest to
-Remove all the "At least 2-C, likely 2-B" from Chara and Flowey and replace them with just 2-B
-Frisk should be "likely 2-B" as they could still harm and tank Photoshop Flowey even without the SOULs help...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Giygas https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Flowey
Omega Flowey. (fights Frisk)
Honestly just too lazy to do what their power scales are and all that stuff so uh.
Yep. Another downgrade for Undertale. I'm sorry.
Okay, so Frisk's 2-C is via immense determination. Which comes from barley haming Photoshop Flowey. Frisk shouldn't scale. Not only can Frisk barley harm Flowey, but the only time you can actually do good damage is when having help from the souls...
The Player was told that there was a new map discovered, called "Mountain E. Battle" and then ventured out to find it. After falling down and landing into the Underground, Player then meets Flowey.
Both 9-A. Battle takes place in the Underground, specifically the area where you meet Flowey...
So right now the True Reset is treated as if it erases the entire Undertale Multiverse which is plain wrong.
Flowey clearly states that it will only effect the True pacifist Timeline
"If you so choose…
Everyone will be ripped from this timeline…
…and sent back before all of this ever happened...
It's stated on Asgore's profile that Flowey couldn't have defeated Asgore without LOVE, using his OF fight intro monologue as proof of it as he says "Without you, I never could have gotten past him". However, what he means is much more likely to be that he literally couldn't go past Asgore as...
Two cute looking creatures with dark intentions in the back and also has a lot to do with messing with their souls duke it out to see who's top dog. Speed is equalized and it takes place in a cave.
Flowey:
Kyubey:
Inconclusive:
Howdy!
"One shall kill, one shall be killed"
Both are in character. Optimus has the matrix. Flowey has access to the omega form thing. Both are in close range at around 5 meters.
Optimus: 0
Flowey: 0
Inconclusive: 0
So I just found a couple of things that the profies missed, though nothing too major except for one thing which would scale to every monster in the game.
Sans and Asriel:
Both of them are missing magic in their profiles, which they should since every monster has magic.
Every monster in the...
Coming from this thread. Basically the wording in the Undertale profiles should improve.
Look at this profile, it has regen via Time Manipulation and it doesn't fail to inform that, leading to no misconceptions about it. So should all Undertale profiles with it, they don't even have their...
Flowey (9-A) Vs. Bendy (9-B, likely higher)
Through timelime shenanigans, Flowey finds himself in the presance of Bendy.
The battle takes place in Joey Drew Studios, in a room with a moderate amount of ink. Speed is equalized. Neither side gets prep. Victory by death or incap. For the sake of...
Last one died because of procrastination, so getting this out of the way...
Flowey doesn't scale to Chara
He doesn't know for sure you're Chara, but assumes it (as implied when he says "you're empty inside me, just like me. In-fact... you're Chara, right?").
He believes Chara, power wise, is...
Flowey vs Gogeta (Dragon Ball Super)
Both are 2-C
Speed is unequalized
Gogeta starts in Super Saiyan Blue
Photoshop Flowey is being used
Battle takes place in Times Square, NYC
A Flower: 0
The Ultimate Fusion: 0
Inconclusive: 1 (Edwardtruong2006)
Both 9-A tier
speed equalized
win via by death, incap, or KO
battle takes place in judgement hall
SBA
both are in-character
Sans: 0
Flowey: 1 (Andytrenom)
Inconclusive: 3 Chocomilkalex) (Kriskirby) (Ricsi-Viragosi)
VS
For Flowey, if you're going to cross something out then don't write it at all. It's not funny or clever.
For Frisk, they have no reason to be there other than to make them sound better than they actually are. Also temy (or temmie i don't care) armor's comment especially due to it being badly...
I hope this isn't a stomp
And I'm waiting for Animdude vs Lord of Games to be added, so in the meantime, I'm doing this.
Rules:
Both at 2-C
Speed equalized
The rest is SBA
Profiles for both:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lord_of_Games
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Flowey
LoG: 7...
Shouldn't it basically be a form of time travel? When you SAVE you just save the part of yourself at that time and when you LOAD you just go back to when you saved. It would explain why Frisk ca keep dying and coming back and why when God Flowey kills Frisk, he just SAVE and LOADs so he can kill...
Based on Saikou's comment:https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2666226
All Tier 2 feats scale from Chara who perform this feat: (Destroyed reality/the game itself, which contained countless timelines. While the exact number is unknown, the sheer number of resets performed by characters such as...
Frisk
Immortality(Type 4) via SAVE and LOAD.
Information Analysis via CHECK.
Flowey
Immortality(Type 4) via SAVE and LOAD.
Asgore
Slight Afterimage Creation here https://youtu.be/Eqypnw6gQNg?t=1m8s
Mettato
Explosion Manipulation here https://youtu.be/W4wjfmVNpBw?t=11m6s
Undyne
Limited...
I've finally gotten around to playing Undertale for myself, and Flowey's immeasurable speeds come from loading and switching between save files. At the same time, however, the save files in this wiki are referred to as timelines, so it's essentially like travelling back and forth between...