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Hi, this thread is meant to be a continuation of part one which went on for a while. Due to it being derailed and over redundantly long, I decided to split the remaining portion here with whatever is left to evaluate.
Here is part one for reference...
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destiny oftheendlessdreamoftheendless
father time
lucifer morningstar (dc comics)
michael demiurgos
mother night (vertigo)
the basanos
the presence
Hi, since the the tiering system has been changed not too long ago. I decided to overlook the DC Cosmology blog page and wanted to revise the tiering and explanation on the blog. @Elizio33 is handling the Crisis Cosmology section of the blog. So I decided to handle J.M. DeMatteis and Vertigo...
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elaine belloc
endless
father time (vertigo)
lucifer morningstar (dc comics)
michael demiurgos
mother night (vertigo)
pralaya (dc comics)
the presence
Hello. In today's revision, I will be specifically going over the Vertigo verse(Pre-Black Label). This will tie in any Sandman features such as Endless Night, Orpheus, Overture, etc…
The main premise is to establish what the Vertigo verse offers within the writings and statements of the main...
Dream of the Endless has acausality 5 on his profile with no justification, scans, nothing. It's also going to be even harder for him to get acausality 5 because he needs proof of being an unchangeable entity which he doesn't have
I agree with most of what the revision brought and I will go over some of the topics, I think needs to be worked on. Lucifer is a fan favorite so I will be going over him and his family first. Now I do agree that Lucifer and the Presence are nowhere near 1-A but I feel Low 1-C is also a tad bit...
In today's thread, we can look at Sandman: Overture with the location called the City of Stars.
It's the collection of stars in Creation in a place that is actuality. In a far away realm beyond the real one yet as each step of this actuality goes down to the level of reality until you reach...
Lucifer Morningstar is popularly known as one of DC's top tier beings, with many even saying he's the second most powerful in the entire verse. However, as much as I love the character, I feel like he's been incredibly overhyped by people. The wiki is no exception. So in this thread I will go...
Specifically; Yahweh, Lucifer, and Michael. I will go over Lucifer as Michael another time.
The Presence/Yahweh
Lucifer Morningstar
Michael Demiurgos
Yahweh:
To start it off let’s talk about Yahweh.
To first start, Yahweh is Infinite and Eternal.
Infinite and Eternal
(Lucifer Vol.1 #75)...
Hi.
I see there are some misconceptions here, about Death of the Endless' power and influence(mostly related to beings like Lucifer and above). For example, I read here in this page and forum, that she can claim Lucifer Morningstar, because of what he said to Silk Man in the Void:
Silk Man: I...
I did this thread to prove that Sphere of the Gods is a beyond-dimensional realm, though not all of it denizens scale to that, as existing in a 1-A space =/= being a 1-A entity.
1. From the heights of the Skyland Pantheons to the prison depths of Underworld, this is the great realm of...
Well I was wondering since DC is too far from vertigo, and the new unconsciousness that is in Lucifer's new career asked me can we still climb the old reliable career? they already know perpetually and their children What basically refers to the presence and their children.
or at least Sandman...
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"Dream of the lovecraftiens horror"
Could someone explain to me...
The bubbles in the Dreaming is a single dream of a person from the Waking World (the lower Multiverse)
Given that Matthew is capable of going in them, the Dream Bubbles in the Dreaming appear to be entire Universes/Dimensions corresponding to a Dreaming sleeping person...
According to Dream, while he was in the City of Stars going down the stairs. He described the place as so in Issue #4 https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lhah5H8CB9Y/VkINrA767XI/AAAAAAAAPBQ/Ayngp7rV1gA/s1600-Ic42/009.jpg
"This place is above the real. It exists in the far realms and in actuality"
"And...
Why isn't Barbatos scaled to Dream if Barbatos was capable of eventually destroying the Dreaming by turning his books into Universes in Dark Knights Metal?
Dream/Daniel was even scared of Barbatos. So why not?
In finishing up the Sandman, I found a scan here that suggests members of the Endless can control the laws of physics within their realms to their whims. Would this qualify as a form of Law Manipulation or Physics Manipulation?
Secondly, shouldn't they also all have Abstract Existence related...
Hello guys! First I would like to apologize in advance if this question is stupid since I'm new in the comic world.
My question is regarding Death of the Endless in relationship with Dream. In the tiering system, I've seen that one of the personifications of Dream is 1-A (the lovecraftian...
From the new Sandman Universe comic that just came out, I found a couple of abilities that belong on Lucifer and Dream's pages that weren't there before.
Lucifer Morningstar was able to seal off Death of the Endless from being able to claim ravens. Those that remain are in limbo after they die...
I don't even really know if this is the right forum, but looking back at Dream of the Endless' page, some of his justifications are really strange.
Not the High 1-B, stuff. That's fine. But some of the justifications for his "likely Outerverse level" don't make a ton of sense.
First of all...
I was wondering, after looking at Sandman Overture, I have some odd theory:
The Endless we know are effectively only the "Endless of The Humans" and only Dream can fully see his other selves. He can even see his more powerful aspects, such as Lovecraftian Dream.
I now think that his elder kin...
So in Sandman: Overture, after Creation ends Dream was in his ship that sails in "nothing and nowhere" outside of time and space that is full of 1000 entities saved by Desire.It seems like Dream was fading out of existence/being destroyed because Creation is already over but Dream clung to the...
Since Deaths range and tier has been upgraded to Irrelevant and she now been given tier at least High 1-B, I believe that Destinys range should also be upgraded to Irrelevant as she contains Death within his book and that was what Matthew keep telling me. That plus Destiny had to rent the bond...