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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Sure in that sense SBP has actually important hax compared to Adam, but in context of vs their opponents aka when compared to Sentry I get same vibes. OK elephant in room, Prime has le retcon punch. Aka basically reality warping. And isnt reality warping basically do anything thing? So Prime can do anything? But it doesnt seem like reality warping is actually given full "do anything" thing in VS talks. So we have to look at his other moves specifically.

So what does Prime have besides that? I dont know him well so I def missed something. But preliminary it looks like base Kryptonian stuff, laser eyes, ice breath etc. What else? He absorbs magic and can dimension travel, cool. But like again, compared to Sentry this doesnt seem as much. Sentry seems to have more abilities. And what, you want to count resistances? Sure but Sentry has those too. Some people say this MU depends on Sentry surviving retcon punch. And he has arguments for it. They might not be good but he has them. Which then leads to Prime needing to have resistances to Sentry's stuff. And he might not have enough?

So yes, I will compare it to AdamApocalypse because we have fighter who is unga bunga strong with specific hax but opponent might resist the hax and is comparable to unga bunga AND has more hax the former cant deal with. Sure, the stats being equal is also bad argument but again, it exists. So they can be used. And I kinda think it is realistically possible Sentry can win in DB. And because DB's caper scaling is kind of a mess lmao
By the way, I found it strange that they didn't mention Adam's regeneration. Doesn't it scale with Shazam, who has a powerful regeneration rate?

Regarding Superboy and Sentry, have we ever had cases where the asshole characters won? I already wrote above that I can't imagine Sukuna losing to Muzan in a DB match. Honestly, I find it easier to imagine the overconfident SBP dying screaming in terror than Void Sentry.
 
Like, Raven is equal to Phoenix, basically 5th(?) strongest Marvel character loses to mid-tier DC character, sure. But then Kyle Rainer gets hard capped at 12.3 D and they just blackbox Outer stuff because they cant talk about it to casuals, fair enough its weird. But then they are a-ok to say Marvel cosmology has transcending layers and mentioned even infinite higher dimensions in HulkGodzilla. Sth sth episodes are made in vacuum sth sth

The worst part is all of my talk now can be 100% useless because they could just go "wellp, Prime is stronger than Batkek while Sentry struggled with Knull who is like Batkek, so Prime is stronger teehee" and it would be just as consistent because eps are made in vacuum :VVVVVV
 
Everyone dunks on Knull killing Sentry, but it does make me think, what are Prime's anti-feats? No way he is perfect boy scout.
He lost to the Titans once and another time to Shazam. There was also his fight against the Legion but they needed like 3 different versions of the Legion on top of exploiting his Flash phobia to beat him there.
 
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What do you mean my bad comparison of Prime being like Adam actually somehow became relevant????
 
Like, Raven is equal to Phoenix, basically 5th(?) strongest Marvel character loses to mid-tier DC character, sure. But then Kyle Rainer gets hard capped at 12.3 D and they just blackbox Outer stuff because they cant talk about it to casuals, fair enough its weird. But then they are a-ok to say Marvel cosmology has transcending layers and mentioned even infinite higher dimensions in HulkGodzilla. Sth sth episodes are made in vacuum sth sth
I think they had to talk about because of Godzilla's fanbase. Those MFs are rabid and constantly going on about Ultima being unstoppable, so they probably had to reaaaally hammer it in.
 
The absolute worst narrative that has spawned for the next episode is that somehow prime and sentry are these dead even characters stats wise when that's not objectively not true?

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Nothing sentry has done matches prime one tapping a darkseid with the full anti life equation and a anti monitor who absorbed all of DC.

We all know molecule man was not full power when sentry fought him and acting like MM was in that fight is disingenuous

The "stalemating" Galactus statement was off screen and we don't know if he was fully fed or not

Fighting modern hulk and Thor is cool but he didn't do post 2020 where both got really insane buffs to their modern kit.

Knull no diffing sentry shows a power limit on where sentry is at in the cosmology hierarchy (and before someone says the author apologized, I have never seen proof of that statement despite people constantly repeating it and death battle themselves said it doesn't matter, it happened regardless)

So I genuinely want a fan of sentry to tell me how he is apparently equal to prime when he doesn't have nearly the same amount of feats of consistently boxing with high tiers.
 
Pretty sure the author of that comic said he had no idea how powerful Sentry is at that point, this argument of "it still happened" is irrelevant

For one, inconsistencies are a thing and two, he didnt take in consideration Sentry was far more powerful then he presented him before his Knull run

So thats not a limit to his power, thats like saying Giorno cant use his life giving ability if he has both hands incapacitated, despite seeing times using his legs for it and was forgotten for a fight that another character was meant to get their own moment
 
Pretty sure the author of that comic said he had no idea how powerful Sentry is at that point, this argument of "it still happened" is irrelevant

For one, inconsistencies are a thing and two, he didnt take in consideration Sentry was far more powerful then he presented him before his Knull run

So thats not a limit to his power, thats like saying Giorno cant use his life giving ability if he has both hands incapacitated, despite seeing times using his legs for it and was forgotten for a fight that another character was meant to get their own moment
Again, death battle themselves said it doesn't matter if the writer didn't know what they were doing. It happened.Go to the 1 hour mark on the dot they say it word for word lol

So yes, as of now. Knull level character are sentry's limits till he faces something on that level in his newer stuff
 
and before someone says the author apologized, I have never seen proof of that statement despite people constantly repeating it and death battle themselves said it doesn't matter, it happened regardless)
If I remember correctly, the author apologized not because Sentry lost, but because he forgot that Sentry has one of the best regeneration abilities in Marvel (according to Google) and killed him by having him stabbed with a sword (or cut in half, I don't remember).
 
Again, death battle themselves said it doesn't matter if the writer didn't know what they were doing. It happened.Go to the 1 hour mark on the dot they say it word for word lol

So yes, as of now. Knull level character are sentry's limits till he faces something on that level in his newer stuff
I dont have time to look it up atm, but if they take it for granted thats idiotic of them, if an author makes a big mistake that contradicts story from before, it shouldnt count
 
1.5 mil views for YujiDenji. 2 mil for GruMegamind. Looks these avoided the cursed stall trio of last year.
You know, sometimes I start to think numbers dont tell the full story, grumind had being labelled a disappointment even to the previous KS era labelled similarly, yet pulled 5 million more views then Denji vs Yuji? Perhaps former winning was not taken lightly by people, but not like the previous one was received with open arms any better on top of more issues
 
I dont have time to look it up atm, but if they take it for granted thats idiotic of them, if an author makes a big mistake that contradicts story from before, it shouldnt count
Cool by this logic, prime has never lost since that would contradict past stories

I love when we ignore feats to make it a fair fight for sentry. Lovely.

Let me guess, sentry is beyonder level too since he fought molecule man?
 
So I genuinely want a fan of sentry to tell me how he is apparently equal to prime when he doesn't have nearly the same amount of feats of consistently boxing with high tiers.

You ever hear the tragedy of chain scaling? I thought not, it's not a story Death Battle would tell you....
 
You know, sometimes I start to think numbers dont tell the full story, grumind had being labelled a disappointment even to the previous KS era labelled similarly, yet pulled 5 million more views then Denji vs Yuji? Perhaps former winning was not taken lightly by people, but not like the previous one was received with open arms any better on top of more issues
The Despicable Me franchise is still relevant these days and makes a lot money,Gru winning prob helped alot next to the fact Grumind prob had some aspects that normies liked despite the quality being mid. YujiDenji already doing well and prob reach 2mil by the end of this month or after
 
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I know I said this before, but they REALLY need to change the way they research characters.

For a refresher. Death Battle research works is that two different parties are assigned to each character, a single person assigned to be a lead researcher out of a the research pool. Meaning yuji got his researcher and denji got his.

Yuji's assigned researcher went for a more reasonable low end scaling (at least for db standards), probably expecting the denji side to do the same. The denji side however, went balls of the wall and gave him the most batshit insane nonsensical shit(also probably expecting the yuji side to do the same).

Which in the end turned it into a complete stomp for no reason. The same thing probably happened in Gru VS Megamind. And most notably Omni-Man VS Bardock to a much lesser extent although that was mostly Speedy’s crack-fueled calc doing the heavy lifting.
 
Cool by this logic, prime has never lost since that would contradict past stories
Not even remotely the same thing, but a fool like you ofc will make up stuff like this to defend their shit

First of all a character made to be written as mostly unbeatable in their universe falls part when facing some characters from other fictions

Saitama is the strongest of his verse, Yujiro is the strongest if his verse, Homelander is the most powerful in his series, yet we are not gonna pretend that applies in crossovers the same way like Death Battle
I love when we ignore feats to make it a fair fight for sentry. Lovely.
So Sentry whom grew more powerful then before and shouldnt have died to a tearing in same fashion like Carnage is somehow not contradictory to his power and abilities, especially since the writer admitted he messed up on that...

Also now I looked at the timestamp, its just Ben stating he didnt care and that it happened which is still dumb af from him, by your logic Giorno stand is limited to just his hands to use his ability despite being shown otherwise, we hust gonna apply a weakness on a character or limitatiob cuz an author forgotten something?

And even then Liam way back advocated for DMC not even being universal despite repping Dante in a cast and glazing G1 blogs "debunks" on which they admitted afterwards being wrong on many things after getting proven they lied and all, guess what Dante in his episode still got universal stats and all, so Ben word may not even matter the same way Liam word didnt
 
Sentry fought WWH to a stalemate, and his merged version did the same to All-Father Thor. Doctor Strange's magic couldn't contain the Void, he brutalized Ultron who he thought killed his wife and he blasted right through a Celestial. Sentry at 100% is contending with Prime in stats.
 
Sentry fought WWH to a stalemate, and his merged version did the same to All-Father Thor. Doctor Strange's magic couldn't contain the Void, he brutalized Ultron who he thought killed his wife and he blasted right through a Celestial. Sentry at 100% is contending with Prime in stats.
Ur a marvel fan that's been advocating for sentry since the matchup was leaked.

Darkseid with the full anti life equation, anti monitor and the darkest knight are leagues above everyone you mentioned here.

So no, sentry does not box in the big boy league like prime does consistently.

A featless celestial btw, it literally did nothing before sentry blasted through it.
 
Ur a marvel fan that's been advocating for sentry since the matchup was leaked.

Darkseid with the full anti life equation, anti monitor and the darkest knight are leagues above everyone you mentioned here.

So no, sentry does not box in the big boy league like prime does consistently.

A featless celestial btw, it literally did nothing before sentry blasted through it.
Lmao, thats so false lol. I cant wait for y'all to see the G1 blog
 
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