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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Rozeyroze said:
Ah so going off of feelings and ur personal take on it, not actually something the narrative supports.
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You can't even show proof of Prime using his retcon punches to eradicate a single being from reality that wasn't the Time Trapper.

Rozeyroze said:
You talk about assumptions alot for prime yet easily give sentry omnipresence despite never showing it on panel.
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First of all, I never said Sentry was omnipresent so stop putting words in my mouth just because you've been losing the argument on Prime for the past few hours

Secondly, Show me proof of Prime's suit being indestructible lmao

Rozeyroze said:
It's legit one statement and u just ran with it lol.
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It's a statement that Death Battle believes in or have you forgotten which thread you've been arguing on and on about for the past few days?

Rozeyroze said:
Again, sentry and the void have been affected by weaker retcons than prime can do.
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That still never killed them, even if you want to use House of M, Void's very nature defied that level of reality warping.

Sure, Prime is capable of physically tearing Sentry's body apart, but his literal soul can still fight on until he gets a new body again. Prime's never been able to physically interact with literal spirits and souls before, so it's likely not something he's capable of doing. And his retcons are still survivable especially in the case of the Void since he's never used them to annihilate someone from existence that wasn't the Time Trapper lol.
 
Nick443 said:
It's not only work against with his times trapper self, and even Alexander luthor jr told him to erase Lex Luthor of New Earth. Just as he was about to do that, Lex teleported away.
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Luthor specifically mentions that he's changing reality, but nowhere here does it imply that he's obliterating anyone as a result of his retcons. There's a distinct difference.
 
Megahax said:
You can't even show proof of Prime using his retcon punches to eradicate a single being from reality that wasn't the Time Trapper.


First of all, I never said Sentry was omnipresent so stop putting words in my mouth usut because you've been losing the argument on Prime for the past few hours

Secondly, Show me proof of Prime's suit being indestructible lmao


It's a statement that Death Battle believes in or have you forgotten which thread you've been arguing on and on about for the past few days?


That still never killed them, even if you want to use House of M, Void's very nature defied that level of reality warping.

Sure, Prime is capable of physically tearing Sentry's body apart, but his literal soul can still fight on until he gets a new body again. Prime's never been able to physically interact with literal spirits and souls before, so it's likely not something he's capable of doing. And his retcons are still survivable especially in the case of the Void since he's never used them to annihilate someone from existence that wasn't the Time Trapper lol.
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Don't need too, ur not making up rules to fit ur narrative, prime erased time trapper. That's facts.

Yes u did, u said he has omnipresent energy absorption (he doesn't) oh and please, I been running laps around you. You haven't provided any actual evidence with images or anything. Just words and "nope, u need assumptions for that"

Already debunked you hours ago saying I said it was indestructible, keep up and go look back on our convo.

They believe it? That's crazy? Show me where they said he has that Omnipresent ability because that word never came out of their mouths they just repeated the scan.

Doesn't need to kill him, just render both and the void useless, that's a win con LMAO.

Still erased someone from existence regarding, y'all are gonna accept that sentry is not that guy that y'all are hyping him up to be.
 
Megahax said:
Luthor specifically mentions that he's changing reality, but nowhere here does it imply that he's obliterating anyone as a result of his retcons. There's a distinct difference.
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A difference that doesn't matter because sentry and the void would still be affected by this and lose the fight, it's that simple.

Tell me how sentry keeps prime down permanently
 
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Tbh, i don't see a proper way he can kill him permanently, but the same apply's to prime against Sentry, but like the true question it's still in the air, how can be sure he's rival can be stay dead in battle?

That's what i leaning prime, If the Retcon Punch can let him live in a peaceful and happy Word, where the void it's only a memory, Sentry can actually still want to fight?
Rozeyroze said:
A difference that doesn't matter because sentry and the code would still be affected by this and lose the fight, it's that simple.

Tell me how sentry keeps prime down permanently
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Nick443 said:
Tbh, i don't see a proper way he can kill him permanently, but the same apply's to prime against Sentry, but like the true question it's still in the air, how can be sure he's rival can be stay dead in battle?
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Easy, sentry wants to be dead and like what happened after knull, he'll just stay that way.

Sentry has no way to exactly pin point primes respawn point quickly across a infinite multiverse in a short amount of time.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Lowkey that scene makes Prime look like doofus so when Sentry eventually wears down his mind resist thatll be fun :V

Oh yeah, Knull killed like Celestials, Right? Its really not that bad anti-feat.
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Honestly we really need to stop using Celestials as a benchmark because holy shit do they vary wildly in power. You have the one in AXE that just easily beats everyone but then you got the ones in Aaron's run that require "megatons" of force to damage.
 
I still can't believe that they're using that stupid "planck time" Ares feat when it is so obviously not a speed feat if you actually read the comic the page is from. X-Man enters a dimension that exists within time but the actual fighting isn't happening that fast unless you want to unironically argue that Mimic of all people has planck time reaction speeds. For god's sake, they are literally having a conversation.
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The whole thing is so obviously meant to be a dimensional travel thing that I do not understand how people see it as a speed feat. If they were simply moving super fast then they wouldn't be affecting the past and future while fighting within this domain.
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Edit: Not to mention that this exact same issue has it be stated that he could stalemate Sentry. So Nate is somehow both capable of stalemating someone who effortlessly ripped Ares in half before he could even fight back but also Ares is just as fast as him.
 
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AcidSilver said:
I still can't believe that they're using that stupid "planck time" Ares feat when it is so obviously not a speed feat if you actually read the comic the page is from. X-Man enters a dimension that exists within time but the actual fighting isn't happening that fast unless you want to unironically argue that Mimic of all people has planck time reaction speeds. For god's sake, they are literally having a conversation.
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The whole thing is so obviously meant to be a dimensional travel thing that I do not understand how people see it as a speed feat. If they were simply moving super fast then they wouldn't be affecting the past and future while fighting within this domain.
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Edit: Not to mention that this exact same issue has it be stated that he could stalemate Sentry. So Nate is somehow both capable of stalemating someone who effortlessly ripped Ares in half before he could even fight back but also Ares is just as fast as him.
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I mean both still have inmeasuble speed statements overall, but... Yeah the context behind the feat it's kinda lame.
 
Because y'all are trusting the word of someone who has Miles>>>Deku. I cant take him seriously lol. The blatant downplay is real. Sentry has the obvious feats, abilities, and chain scaling to win, not saying he does, but he has a good enough chance.
 
Peter_Quicksilver_Maximoff said:
It doesn't.
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It absolutely does lol, you have been gatekeeping panels for weeks about how sentry can resist it yet never show the panel so please back up your over confidence and actually provide evidence for once because every big sentry feat has been countered.

1. "He put ideas into the writers head" that writer being a fictional INVERSE version of the jenkins

2. "He fought Galactus to a standstill" no context on how strong and he got from Nate grey so it wasn't 1 on 1

3. "He faster than Ares!" See the post above for why that's not accurate

4. "He beat molecule man!" A heavily weakened version of him that was nowhere close to full power.

5. "He tanked house of M" no he didn't lol, he was affected by it and was made absolutely useless

I'm begging SOMEONE to actually show good sentry feats where he resists retconning. NOT existence erasure, that's completely different.
 
Didnt bother with this site for matchups I didn't care about honesty, also it was kinda tedious to make a account to begin with but I couldnt pass up the first marvel and DC episode in what? 3 years
SpecterSkater said:
What I'm most surprised by is how this matchup of all things brought all these new double digit post accounts to the thread all of a sudden.

Like no offense to all you newbies in the thread, but where have ya'll been all season
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Anyway, ignoring all that. What's likely to come next after this MU? I'm betting Aang vs Traveler. Though I do wonder if it's going to be pushed back due to the leaked movie
 
SpecterSkater said:
What I'm most surprised by is how this matchup of all things brought all these new double digit post accounts to the thread all of a sudden.

Like no offense to all you newbies in the thread, but where have ya'll been all season lol
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Well. One of the newbies here, but i'm not that new, i been watching This thread like the start of DB 26 for kinda see who was betting and blogs of course(asíde that it took me a edit to let me reply here lol).
 
I think it’s funny seeing people go “Sentry’s intelligence will give him the win” because he built an Artificial Intelligence when TDK was canonically playing 6D chess every issue and had the combined intelligence of every version of Batman from the Dark Multiverse, plus Dr Manhattan cosmic sensory powers, and couldn’t find a way to beat Prime (even through manipulating him).

And this is ignoring ‘intelligence’ in this matchup also possibly including prior knowledge, and Prime knows about 2000s Marvel enough to talk about OMD, etc. And a pre-crisis Superman copy isn’t going to be ‘dumb’ in terms of raw IQ, either.
 
Rozeyroze said:
5. "He tanked house of M" no he didn't lol, he was affected by it and was made absolutely useless.
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Its funny that people latched onto this, because DB left out that theres two to three direct statements that Sentry's reality warping powers make the events of House of M look like childsplay by comparison
 
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