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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Damn, how to prove you don't actually read the sources in seven whole words
I was referring to the specific part of the article my opponent pasted.
 
My uncle cares, so no.

Stop accusing me of being a dupe just because you can't argue.

Ah so blatant rules violation. Can you follow the rules of your own site ffs.

The thing you posted doesn't have citations.

Nobody has refuted my claims. I'm of the belief nobody can refute my claims but I'm open to change. Which is why I came here. So come on. If not you, someone else can. Come on.

Hitchen's razor. Back up your claims.

Predicate logic is first order logic. FIRST ORDER LOGIC IS BUILT ON THE THREE LAWS OF THOUGHT. https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/~david/cl/fol-hodges. STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

Stay mad that you can't refute me. Enjoy your reports.
Oh, I'm sorry. I should amend: no one worth a damn cares. Your account was made literally last week and you just came in here, acting like you own the place while refusing to make CRTs to actually defend your points. That is suspiciously dupe behavior.

You're not open to change considering you already believe in your own superiority despite not proving jack.

Yeah, I never said Aristotle wasn't an important building block, just that there are a lot of criticisms of his works. Besides, while Aristotelian logic is an important building block, we've advanced so far in logic that holding onto Aristotelian logic to explain all logic is like using alchemical formulas for chemistry, so keep holding on to outdated forms of thought if you so wish.
 
Anyways, If you can't debate in a reasonable manner after like two entire exchanges, you really need to take a chill pill. I deduced after literally two responses that I was debating someone set in their ways and stopped caring because this is the ******' DB discussion thread and shit isn't that serious.
Yes. Now stop sharing kid's movies. Can you share **** instead since this is a mature hobby for mature people thanks.
 
Oh, I'm sorry. I should amend: no one worth a damn cares.
Continue to violate the rules. I'm sure this will end well for you.
Your account was made literally last week and you just came in here, acting like you own the place while refusing to make CRTs to actually defend your points.
CRTs do not determine truth and never have. They never will.
That is suspiciously dupe behavior.
Who am I a dupe of?
You're not open to change considering you already believe in your own superiority despite not proving jack.
I am. Make good arguments and I'll listen to them.
Yeah, I never said Aristotle wasn't an important building block, just that there are a lot of criticisms of his works.
Doesn't matter. You're not addressing the specific points made.
Besides, while Aristotelian logic is an important building block, we've advanced so far in logic that holding onto Aristotelian logic to explain all logic is like using alchemical formulas for chemistry, so keep holding on to outdated forms of thought if you so wish.
Doesn't matter. You're not addressing the specific points made.
 
My canonical reaction to anyone thinking this hobby isn't stupid nerdy fun to have stupid nerdy fun with.
I say multiple times that if you think powerscaling is subjective you're free from me. At most I'll ask why you believe that and share my own stance on the matter but the fact remains that anyone who thinks powerscaling has no truth and is CONSISTENT with this is free.
Case in point: I think Ultraman should beat Ultima because he beats giant monsters. I don't give a **** about cosmology, scaling, etc, that's his narrative role, that's what he does, so that's why he wins.
 
@ALEPHGOAT @Definitelynotbatman0110

Can y'all stop throwing paws in a public thread?

Handle these in the DMs or something. Seriously, I don't even know what you guys are talking about, but that sure was an aggressive convo in an otherwise peaceful thread.

Like you are free to express opinions, no matter how controversial, just make sure it does not suck the fun out of others using this thread.
 
@ALEPHGOAT @Definitelynotbatman0110

Can y'all stop throwing paws in a public thread?

Handle these in the DMs or something. Seriously, I don't even know what you guys are talking about, but that sure was an aggressive convo in an otherwise peaceful thread.

Like you are free to express opinions, no matter how controversial, just make sure it does not suck the fun out of others using this thread.
I already made my final response to the guy. I'm good.
 
I already made my final response to the guy. I'm good.
You lose. Have a good day.
@ALEPHGOAT @Definitelynotbatman0110

Can y'all stop throwing paws in a public thread?

Handle these in the DMs or something. Seriously, I don't even know what you guys are talking about, but that sure was an aggressive convo in an otherwise peaceful thread.
I'm not talking to him in DMs. He needs punishment for his bad behavior first.
Like you are free to express opinions, no matter how controversial, just make sure it does not suck the fun out of others using this thread.
This was more akin to me beating the shit out of this guy in a debate but sure.
 
I will repeat my opinion on Kratonks.

In theory not liking Kratos being cosmic is fine and reasonable and bit based in memory of simple VS times... but basically every other character gets wanked to same if not even more absurd levels, and especially annoyingly in DB discussion.

Mario, Sonic and basically every bing bing wahoo mascot gets universal in base despite it obviously not being intended.

Pokemon, Zelda and TMNT get composited to hell despite composites being true fanfiction.

Marvel and DC are wanked so high that a normal caper is a layer above layer above layer of reality.

DBZ multipliers and actual cosmology is a bit messy.

They literally used disgusting lore wank for Chosen Undead & Dragonborn but that time its actually fine because uhh "both were given it" so wait its better that BOTH characters get shitty lore stuff instead of one?

The DB fanbase gassing up a Chinese Gacha for Tom despite the fact that less than 10 people have actually played.

Actually made fun of casual FE fans for mocking Mountain level Dimitri despite it being same deal using VS wank. But noooo Dimitri can bust a mountain. No universes because he scales to Gacha mobile game lore.

Persona still has kick the cat and SMT has universal Walmart but ig thats fine because its RPG or sth.

Oh btw can you show me how many universes Tifa has busted?

Hell, GruMegamind was supposed to be goody movie fight but we are pissed that they didnt use VS stuff properly, like how fans used novels and video games for them.

Or just fact that lightspeed goes around Earth 7 times in a second and we allow this to every shitty over-glorified bullet because it bounced on a mirror.

Bleach fans were pissed but apparently right because he actually totally destroys pocket dimensions.

Hell, Dante is apparently universal too and there is nothing wrong with that, nuh uh. No they cant show us Dante destroying universe either.

******* Ash was argued to be able to destroy all of Pokemon anime cosmology or be on par with that aahahahhahha

Goddamn Scooby-Doo might be stronger than Goku in DB if they consider 3-A/T2 stuff as comparable but no one talks about this. No one seriously question Scooby being uni buster.

I had to edit in Universal Spongebob there was too much shit to complain about.

Currently everyone is trying to gas up 11D Kamen Rider as if we 3D beings could ever even interact with 11D.

Also Asura didnt actually destroy the golden statue completely oops
 
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In theory not liking Kratos being cosmic is fine and reasonable and bit based in memory of simple VS times...
Thats not based at all, its one thing you dont agree on where a character is, but what most do is ignore these and come up with made up shit against it, facebook still lurks with the same idiots from 1 decade ago thinking Goku isnt even universal and thinking Superman destroying planets and such wins him debates on characters not cosmic deities or such
Mario, Sonic and basically every bing bing wahoo mascot gets universal in base despite it obviously not being intended.
A writer not knowing these isnt reason to say a character cant be a certain rating, some characters can have feats at certain level often evem if author is clueless
Pokemon, Zelda and TMNT get composited to hell despite composites being true fanfiction.
Blame the fact that those dont really have a true main canon and had so many different versions over the years, unless they use a specific version
Marvel and DC are wanked so high that a normal caper is a layer above layer above layer of reality.
With nearly 1 century of material, some characters will have a bunch of content for it, especially from dozens to hundreds of writers
DBZ multipliers and actual cosmology is a bit messy.
DBZ currently has a CRT about multipliers, they plan to gut the big chain stacking, speed and AP that is
They literally used disgusting lore wank for Chosen Undead & Dragonborn but that time its actually fine because uhh "both were given it" so wait its better that BOTH characters get shitty lore stuff instead of one?
Not sure if you just meme here or you serious, but you should know gameplay has to make compromises with a story, you wouldnt enjoy just strolling through battles if it followed the lore whenever you touch the buttons
The DB fanbase gassing up a Chinese Gacha for Tom despite the fact that less than 10 people have actually played.
It didnt save Tom anyway, also why would media for a franchise and its characters matter how many people read/watched/played from it, most of you dont even bother to look for some characters stuff like old sites or manuals with info on them either, which is an issue people had a decade ago, just surface level knowledge whoch tells you much better something
Persona still has kick the cat and SMT has universal Walmart but ig thats fine because its RPG or sth.
If your issue is Persona scaling out of SMT, well too bad, like it or not, its a case of if a character is the same across both mediums, cross scaling will exist, much like how Soul Eater and Fire Force are clearly meant to be the same characters in both, which in turn may change scaling
Oh btw can you show me how many universes Tifa has busted?
Show a solar system that Cell blew up in canon visually, still using this dumb "show me a visual of that or piss off" type argument
Hell, Dante is apparently universal too and there is nothing wrong with that, nuh uh. No they cant show us Dante destroying universe either.
Creating a universe or merging more with your own power is more then enough, you dont need to destroy something to be at that level, quit outdated mentality
 
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