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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

I just don't want either fed to fed to each other given I like both characters
1000% agreed. I think there are much better match-ups for both, and Goku in particular needs a very solid but well-earned W.

Speaking of, I gotta ask; as a Dragon Ball chad, what are some of your favorite DB match-ups you see floating around for some of the characters? Any you REALLY like or really wanna see?
 
Nah, you guys sleeping on Mario best opponents.



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I too am biased *****, so I want DBZ to get wins lmao

Mind you for Ls, GogetaOmegamon would be dope. And no more Sean to ruin that, hurray.

MoroTirek is so specific we are just waiting for it in 2027-28 to get Moro's voice. And if DB seems to buy 5D DBS, Moro can win, cool.

Tbf, outside of "DBZ must win", CellMetal is just Cell's best MU. He was going to die to Pokemon or capeshit, so Id rather have him die to Metal, who is thematically best, pretty cool and verse I like too.

Same thing with Goku kinda. Sonic is prolly his biggest match outside of Supes. Yes, its because Sonic aped Goku, but like, DB did Deathstroke vs Deadpool. DB has done "inspiration vs the one who was inspired" MUs.

Tbh, DBZ is kinda starting to feel like its done. Most good MUs are getting done. Ig Ginyu Force would make fun ep. Maybe KirbyBuu2 with Buu winning would be funny reversal of fan hate.

🫵 are just unluck.

Does Imgur works? Is don't know much of imagens hosting sites

Yes but ironically imgur is banned for UK users. How rough for everyone.

Also tbh Ronald is probably same tier VS opponent for Mario as his other choices. Everyone makes Mario face generic mascots. It works, but it explains why his MUs suck lol
 
Why the ** is everyone using ibb for images?? That *** broken I cant see shit.

Is this how Joycap feels? Dios mios...
This but with Imgur being blocked in my country because Globalists/UK gov can't stop cucking out to Zionists

I see your point, though.
 
1000% agreed. I think there are much better match-ups for both, and Goku in particular needs a very solid but well-earned W.

Speaking of, I gotta ask; as a Dragon Ball chad, what are some of your favorite DB match-ups you see floating around for some of the characters? Any you REALLY like or really wanna see?
Piccolo vs Macaque
Gohan vs Ultraman Zero
Goku vs Jin Mori
 
Ah but episodes are done in vacuum. What, you think DB plans or attempts on making some characters lose like how they said they thought Cable would beat Booster Gold?
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Good idea, so here is Sonic series future in DB after CellMetal:

So Sonic is going to lose to Mario. Or Goku. Maybe both.

Shadow probably loses to M2. Ash did lose to Yugi, they could use evening of scores. Or maybe theyll sacrifice Chaos to Kyogre. Maybe both, Shadow won last time.

Marvel also lost a bunch last year, they could use a win. Have Juggernaut beat Archie Knux. Jugs apparently resists everything or sth.
And finally have Amy beat up Sakura. Naruto has had win streak in DB, a lot of complaints on those Ws too. Do it in 2027 to tie up with Sonic 4 movie.
That's somehow the most insulting idea in the entire post. 😆

10/10 Amy spite stomping Sakura into the dirt after a streak of Sonic losses in vastly more interesting matchups is an idea so bad Death Battle might just do it.

In other words. You cooked.
And maybe EggmanLex for that year too. DC and Lex have been losing lately. Those scores could be evened too.
Having Eggman come back only to die a third time would be straight up diabolical ngl.
 
10/10 Amy spite stomping Sakura into the dirt after a streak of Sonic losses in vastly more interesting matchups is an idea so bad Death Battle might just do it.
Hmm I might have gone overboard actually. Naruto has Solar System arguments nowadays. Sakura prolly tickled Naruto at some point. Amy is only Large Star using highends, so she might actually lose against Sakura. Cant be too biased for the rodents after all. Good call.
 
Hmm I might have gone overboard actually. Naruto has Solar System arguments nowadays. Sakura prolly tickled Naruto at some point. Amy is only Large Star using highends, so she might actually lose against Sakura. Cant be too biased for the rodents after all. Good call.
Winning is temporary, dooming is eternal 🫠
 
That G1 Blog actually keeps making me think Cell can win.

While not always or even that commonly, sometimes G1 does odd stats that actually align with DB's thoughts ala current Naruto. That G1 Blog sure did lowball Metal, 15-18x uni/multi Super Forms? Sure lol. But about that, DB can go even lower. They just made Emeroods uni in BowserEggman. Black boxes seem hypothetical supplementary material what ifs. Yes, uni Cell is wank, but we do not know if DB wont deem it as such.

Speed shenanigans is more damning. Funny multipliers and base Goku Spirit Bomb speed + Hell travel scaling does make finite end Cell faster than Metal's finite speed feats. Now I know what some are thinking: "you dingus, Metal has immeasurable speeds arguments". Yup he sure does. And DB basically ignored those in BowsEgg too. Also Cell has infinite speed argument from Hell feat. This will make some think: "you double dingus, immeasurable speed is superior to infinite speed". That it is, but I do vaguely recall that DB considers infinite and immeasurable speeds roughly equal. This would be more prime black box material, thus focusing on finite ends, thus giving Cell a chance to be faster.

Now lets get that one thought here too: "you triple dingus asshole, you have already said that Metal's biodata copy hard counters Cell, why are you yapping pointless Cell wank" and well, uhh guess I am bored lol. But I do wonder is there an angle to spin a Cell win. And with lowballed Metal, there might just be. Ok so like, can Neo Metal just stack his biodata from same person? Why didnt he copy Super Sonic's biodata. Or semi-perfect Doom Shadow? Maybe it isnt actually a thing? This leads to bad scenario. A wanked Cell and lowballed Metal are close in AP, both are uni. But Metal can gain Cell's power on top of his own, a massive gap ehh? Actually no. Thats just 2x uni. A 2x gap in AP is nothing in DB lol. And like speed is then what, 6 quintillion x ftl vs 16 quintillion x ftl? Thats about only 2.67x faster speeds from biodata copy. These are honestly nothing to worry about because of le Zenkai boosts. Since many seem to think Cell has survivability, he has a chance to gain Saiyan Power boost. Cell went from being stomped to being able to severely damage SSJ2 Gohan. This indicates way bigger AP boost than 3x of Metal's biodata copy. Again, if Metal cant stack same biodata over and over again, thats kinda bad? But what about Metal gaining Saiyan Power too? Well, its a case of weird ping pong where Cell can def adapt to if Metal immediately have massive AP gap.

Now then there is one more point: "you quadruple asshole Metal has Chaos Control time stop and oh wait you are just now gonna wank Cell somehow managing that too" and uhh yeah. So in DBS its said that Goku's power can overpower Hit's timeskip. "But thats DBS idiot" yeah, but its same canon, thus they could use logic from Cell's future. If Cell is stronger, he can overpower time stop. So here is the cursed scenario of battle progression:
  1. Cell and Metal start, their AP is equal and Cell is faster with finite speed
  2. Metal does biodata copy, Metal is now like 2x stronger and 2.67x faster than Cell
  3. Metal beats Cell but Cell's regen allows him survive and get le Zenkai. He will gain significantly higher AP and speed, Metal cant restack biodata immediately, he has to rely on his stolen Saiyan adaptation
  4. Thus begins indefinite loop, Cell beats Metal who survives and gains boost leading to that, Metal beats Cell who survives and gains boost leading to that, Cell beats Metal who survives and yadda yadda
So what can break this loop? Thinking this with the bad logic we have, if Cell has better survivability and he is first to gain way bigger stat boost, then is he not more likely to win in this scenario? But thats my cringe yap, tldr:
  • Metal gets better abilities, a lot of same but Metal also has time stop and biodata copy,
  • Cell and Metal tie in AP, a 2x AP gap from biodata copy is not enough and both can keep getting stronger
  • Cell gets better speed, immeasurable speed is cringe to DB team thus finite end and multipliers win it for Cell
  • Cell gets better survivability, Metal's liquid form technically hasnt shown that good regen and Cell can in some part resist time stop too
So yeah, imagine a future, where DB doesnt buy Metal's highends, allowing Cell to manage Metal's stats and abilities. Yes I talked about it before but now its in needlessly long post too lmao

And the real reason why this could happen? Is because clearly DB thinks Sonic is below DBZ in the pecking order. They have not used highends, **** it, not even middle ends for Sonic stats. And besides, Sonic is already trashed in online discourse. Just add Metal losing a pity win MU to the pile. It will be miserable.

Anyways, xBenShapirox this is the argument you have to buy for Cell to win against Metal. You can mail me 20 bucks via email :V
The best I can do is a Dairy Queen giftcard
 
Personally I would have preferred high-end Neo Metal Sonic vs Heroes Metal Cooler and just hand Metal Sonic the Brotherhood of Mettalix for rule of cool, so you can do Metal Cooler Corps vs Brotherhood of Metallix. Cell just doesn't have the arguments to fight Super-tiers from Games!Sonic aside from...I don't know, GT scaling to put him above Buuhan and arguing the Afterlife is 5D I guess? And even then that doesn't really help against the Super-levels 6D arguments.

In terms of Death Battle, they could easily buy 6D Heroes, even 6D Canon, which would make Heroes Metal Cooler vs high-end Neo Metal Sonic way better.

But if Death Battle seriously doesn't buy the higher D arguments for Games!Sonic then yeah, I guess they'll end up feeding Super Sonic to Super!Goku down the line.
 
Well, strictly going by what Death Battle uses, it would really only be something like 2-4x Uni Metal vs Uni cell.

DB doesn't buy 5-D or higher Game Sonic/Mario and seem to find Multi+ shoddy, or at least equally so for both, so we're probably just getting 2x Uni Metal.
 
Hmm I might have gone overboard actually. Naruto has Solar System arguments nowadays. Sakura prolly tickled Naruto at some point. Amy is only Large Star using highends, so she might actually lose against Sakura. Cant be too biased for the rodents after all. Good call.
The Boruto section of the series at least implies that Sakura is starting to catch up to them again at least somewhat during the whole debacle with Shin. That and she's compared directly to Gaara in one of the novels in this era who can fight Base Momoshiki with help from the other Kage and even managed to halt an attack from Fused Momoshiki before getting stomped.



On a completely separate note, this is hilarious.

 
Personally I would have preferred high-end Neo Metal Sonic vs Heroes Metal Cooler and just hand Metal Sonic the Brotherhood of Mettalix for rule of cool, so you can do Metal Cooler Corps vs Brotherhood of Metallix. Cell just doesn't have the arguments to fight Super-tiers from Games!Sonic aside from...I don't know, GT scaling to put him above Buuhan and arguing the Afterlife is 5D I guess? And even then that doesn't really help against the Super-levels 6D arguments.

In terms of Death Battle, they could easily buy 6D Heroes, even 6D Canon, which would make Heroes Metal Cooler vs high-end Neo Metal Sonic way better.

But if Death Battle seriously doesn't buy the higher D arguments for Games!Sonic then yeah, I guess they'll end up feeding Super Sonic to Super!Goku down the line.
I don't like MUs that are feeding one character to another as a general rule of thumb. Like Omnilander was the exception, AquaSponge too.
 
Personally I would have preferred high-end Neo Metal Sonic vs Heroes Metal Cooler and just hand Metal Sonic the Brotherhood of Mettalix for rule of cool, so you can do Metal Cooler Corps vs Brotherhood of Metallix. Cell just doesn't have the arguments to fight Super-tiers from Games!Sonic aside from...I don't know, GT scaling to put him above Buuhan and arguing the Afterlife is 5D I guess? And even then that doesn't really help against the Super-levels 6D arguments.

In terms of Death Battle, they could easily buy 6D Heroes, even 6D Canon, which would make Heroes Metal Cooler vs high-end Neo Metal Sonic way better.

But if Death Battle seriously doesn't buy the higher D arguments for Games!Sonic then yeah, I guess they'll end up feeding Super Sonic to Super!Goku down the line.
Honestly that sounds like peak fiction. They even both have transformations that make them gold lol.
 
I don't want Goku to get a pity W. Yeah it'd be nice if he got a W but I mean atp the only Goku MU I'd kinda wanna see is GT Goku vs Mori Jin, otherwise just retire his jersey.
 
The Boruto section of the series at least implies that Sakura is starting to catch up to them again at least somewhat during the whole debacle with Shin. That and she's compared directly to Gaara in one of the novels in this era who can fight Base Momoshiki with help from the other Kage and even managed to halt an attack from Fused Momoshiki before getting stomped.



On a completely separate note, this is hilarious.


Now that's funny
 
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