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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

AnAverageUsername said:
I think it's pretty disingenuous to cut off what I had said right after. I mentioned that the smoothness shot down the impact behind the strikes, I wasn't calling it bad by any means, cause it was nice to look at.

Again, he was basically out of options here, it was basically a last ditch attempt at trying to do something before the laser was brought out.

Yeah, probably, but I'd just like to say I don't get your complaints. I like having more meat to these battles because they help tell more of a story than just pure fighting. And the point about one character not doing stuff while another does something cool doesn't really work when tacked onto ChiefSlayer since they both did something while the other was also doing something. The exception is the rocket catch run, but be honest, what was Chief supposed to do there.
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Not stand there? Especially when he had been able to keep up the entire fight sped wise. No bubble shield? No evade booster? He just sorta stood there.

Like his arsenal extends outside of the four guns and one sword Death Battle gave him.

Like Chief had a deep bag, I do not buy that 'there was nothing he could do fightwise' take, I'm sorry.

There wasn't a story being told in MC vs DS 2 to be honest with you. Yeah, I agree to wanting a story with the fight but hell Alex vs Cole has more going on narratively than this.
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
Not stand there? Especially when he had been able to keep up the entire fight sped wise. No bubble shield? No evade booster? He just sorta stood there.
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Cause he was being blitzed, when Slayer ran right past him he was basically a blur. Don't know how Chief was reacting to that one.
XXBenShapiroXx said:
Like his arsenal extends outside of the four guns and one sword Death Battle gave him.
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I think that just goes for most episodes in general. Not saying it makes it any less disappointing, but a lot of episodes involving characters with a bunch of equipment really stick to only a few of those.
XXBenShapiroXx said:
Like Chief had a deep bag, I do not buy that 'there was nothing he could do fightwise' take, I'm sorry.
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Again, up above, but with how Chief was getting bodied all along up until then I doubt there would be anything else that would change what would have happened.
XXBenShapiroXx said:
There wasn't a story being told in MC vs DS 2 to be honest with you. Yeah, I agree to wanting a story with the fight but hell Alex vs Cole has more going on narratively than this.
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The story was "Chief encounters Slayer as an enemy, and the two quickly jump into hell as things escalate. As they're ready to continue this fight, they end up getting interrupted and momentarily join together to stave them off." Perhaps "story" isn't the right word I used, but it did help give a sense of variety there.

Also CoLex is PEAK. Loved it, felt like a true 2000s superhero flick.
 
AnAverageUsername said:
Cause he was being blitzed, when Slayer ran right past him he was basically a blur. Don't know how Chief was reacting to that one.

I think that just goes for most episodes in general. Not saying it makes it any less disappointing, but a lot of episodes involving characters with a bunch of equipment really stick to only a few of those.

Again, up above, but with how Chief was getting bodied all along up until then I doubt there would be anything else that would change what would have happened.

The story was "Chief encounters Slayer as an enemy, and the two quickly jump into hell as things escalate. As they're ready to continue this fight, they end up getting interrupted and momentarily join together to stave them off." Perhaps "story" isn't the right word I used, but it did help give a sense of variety there.

Also CoLex is PEAK. Loved it, felt like a true 2000s superhero flick.
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Well then why is Chief suddenly being blitzed when he's kept up just fine? Even DB had their speeds are comparable, that argument doesnt make sense.

Like a fight where one person is getting bodied the whole time is typically pretty bad unless there is some sort of turning of the tide or a Megatron moment. This fight had neither.
 
This isnt a Omnilander type deal where the stomp is entertaining. A fight where one side does nothing the whole time is 99% of the time a bad fight. Like if you hate Chief and love Slayer or are bitter about their first fight maybe I could see the fight being satisfying but as a whole it was mediocre at best.
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
Well then why is Chief suddenly being blitzed when he's kept up just fine? Even DB had their speeds are comparable, that argument doesnt make sense.
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It's just how it was in the animation. Burst speed or smth. Rule of cool don't care about reasons.
XXBenShapiroXx said:
Like a fight where one person is getting bodied the whole time is typically pretty bad unless there is some sort of turning of the tide or a Megatron moment. This fight had neither.
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Well at that point, yeah that's just personal taste. I liked it cause the action was fun, but I get it.

Also you forgot how it's okay if one character is a pathetic PoS (Homelander)
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
This isnt a Omnilander type deal where the stomp is entertaining. A fight where one side does nothing the whole time is 99% of the time a bad fight. Like if you hate Chief and love Slayer or are bitter about their first fight maybe I could see the fight being satisfying but as a whole it was mediocre at best.
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Oh wait you did MB
 
AnAverageUsername said:
It's just how it was in the animation. Burst speed or smth. Rule of cool don't care about reasons.

Well at that point, yeah that's just personal taste. I liked it cause the action was fun, but I get it.

Also you forgot how it's okay if one character is a pathetic PoS (Homelander)
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Rule of cool can only justify so much imo. There are rules to coolness, it's in the name.
 
I also think that in all honesty, DA didn't do great this last season, and I don't think all of it is his fault, but Omnidock, Kratosura, Chiefslayer, and Hulkzilla were all mediocre fights.

VaderObito, YodaMickey, and Friezatron were much better, but I'd still only put those at a 7/10, YodaMickey is probably a 8.5.

His Popeye vs Saitama section was his best work and I don't think he has topped it.
 
I'll focus on more positive stuff now, I'm collecting some of my favorite Davood sequences rn and I feel dumb for not remembering he's been consistently making some clean exchanges
 
Netoriman said:
Super cool, always wanted more horror IP DBs.
I'd bet on Jason winning due to hax, regen, adaption, durability/AP.
Speed would be closer if they give Jason his nano second attack speed feat from the novel, otherwise Leon is a hell of a lot faster.
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Are RE folks bullet timers or something? Never seemed that way in the games so Id assume Leon and Jason are in the same ballpark.
 
Netoriman said:
Super cool, always wanted more horror IP DBs.
I'd bet on Jason winning due to hax, regen, adaption, durability/AP.
Speed would be closer if they give Jason his nano second attack speed feat from the novel, otherwise Leon is a hell of a lot faster.
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Pretty sure Leon across all RE games faced foes like Jason stats wise or even more powerful then that
AnAverageUsername said:
Are RE folks bullet timers or something? Never seemed that way in the games so Id assume Leon and Jason are in the same ballpark.
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They have movies too and all that, Leon in the 4th game, OG or Remake, can dodge foes who avoids firearms and what not
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
Pretty sure Leon across all RE games faced foes like Jason stats wise or even more powerful then that

They have movies too and all that, Leon in the 4th game, OG or Remake, can dodge foes who avoids firearms and what not
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Looking into Uber Jason, the Nanomachines/bots phasing/absorbing/adaption is quite hard to handle without enough AP to overpower it and then regen neg for Jason's low-high regen.
That cast made good points about Leon having regen neg though I don't know to what level, and Uber Jason has inorganic Physiology so I don't know if it would effective.

I do think Leon takes undead Jason, if it was Uber Jason it would be more competitive if he is given the Island level durability feat and sub rel kill.

Was looking up the Wesker/Homelander blog, that got bio weapons to 7B/A whilst Jason's moon feat is 6C.
Though Leon could get 2/3 lightspeed whilst Jason would only be sub rel.

@Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff
Undead one not Uber.
 
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Netoriman said:
Looking into Uber Jason, the Nanomachines/bots phasing/absorbing/adaption is quite hard to handle without enough AP to overpower it and then regen neg for Jason's low-high regen.
That cast made good points about Leon having regen neg though I don't know to what level, and Uber Jason has inorganic Physiology so I don't know if it would effective.

I do think Leon takes undead Jason, if it was Uber Jason it would be more competitive if he is given the Island level durability feat and sub rel kill.

Was looking up the Wesker/Homelander blog, that got bio weapons to 7B/A whilst Jason's moon feat is 6C.
Though Leon could get 2/3 lightspeed whilst Jason would only be sub rel.

@Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff
Undead one not Uber.
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Scaling is also more lax outside of this wiki, I'm sure Undead Jason would scale to all but Uber 3 Jason in a hypothetical reanalysis.
 
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