DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[ShakeResounding]

Whose smarter Pym or Eggman? Because Ultron is considered on par and even smarter then his creator.

Pym is in the Top 10 smartest humans in the Marvel Universe, no? It would probably be Pym, though Game Eggman would probably be fairly intelligent by Marvel standards; he has a primary focus (robotics/mechanical engineering) but also dabbles and is pretty excellent elsewhere (quantum physics, computer sciences, etc.) as well as being able to create AIs like Sage that can process large swathes of information and interact with spaces on different dimensional wavelengths like Cyber Space.

lol, can Metal Sonic even copy personality like that

Ironically yes, he copied Dr. Eggman's personality and intelligence prior to IDW's start and that's what he says when he revealed himself as Neo Metal.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

You think Eggman would be into crypto slop?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

You think Eggman would be into crypto slop?

His Snapcube version was.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

You think Eggman would be into crypto slop?

EggCoin.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Metal Sonic would copy Pym's brain only to get bipolar disorder and the urge to commit domestic abuse.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Metal Sonic would copy Pym's brain only to get bipolar disorder and the urge to commit domestic abuse.

Even worse, assuming he wins against Ultron and proceeds to take over everything, he gets the same issue Ultron does where he questions his own existence and if it was even worth it in the first place. The most hollow victory ever.

 

[ShakeResounding]

You think Eggman would be into crypto slop?

He'd pioneer that shit in a heartbeat and probably make the logo something like Sonic's death sprite in Sonic 1

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

He'd pioneer that shit in a heartbeat and probably make the logo something like Sonic's death sprite in Sonic 1

 

[Fezzih_007]

Ultron has never hacked something comceptual/magical before like Chaos Energy

(I getting all this info from the pages and G1 Blogs)

He hacked the Avengers Infinite (p13)
Massion, a 11 dimension space that Hank Pym made based on Scarlet Witch Magic.
So he can probally figure It out. Maybe.

I don't remember how he did It.

He did copy a couple traits from Eggman when he copied his intelligence so its more than likely at least something about Ultron will affect his mentality.

He either gonna starting hate Hank Pym or Eggman with a passion, or he gonna become straight, because Ultron is kinda of a weirdo sometimes. Like bro have 10 billions of robots Bride.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

(I getting all this info from the pages and G1 Blogs)

He hacked the Avengers Infinite (p13)
Massion, a 11 dimension space that was Hank Pym made bases on Scarlet Witch Magic.
So he can probally figure It out.

I mean.... I guess that helps, but this is still something with a shown resistance to cyber fuckery so it's not like he'll get through it instantaneously, especially since Metal can copy things on contact with him now so unless this is Ultron's immediate go to move rather than throwing hands first which is what he usually does then he might be screwed.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I mean, if the latest marvel episodes are anything to go by, Ultron should take physical stats quite easily, Marvel Cosmology>>>> Sonics games and comics. So its basically does Metal have any hax that can close the stat gap to the point of netting a W, not to mention Ultron has a fair share of haxes too, not to mention a vibranuim body.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Wasnt his body made of adamantium?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I mean, if the latest marvel episodes are anything to go by, Ultron should take physical stats quite easily, Marvel Cosmology>>>> Sonics games and comics. So its basically does Metal have any hax that can close the stat gap to the point of netting a W, not to mention Ultron has a fair share of haxes too, not to mention a vibranuim body.

He has Sonic's Tier Jumping AD and on contact copying ability that is shown working on robots so yeah, I think he can close the gap, especially when given more than enough time thanks to Chaos Control working on Immeasurable Speed Super Sonic back in Heroes. Also Metal outright gaining resistances to abilities he copies as shown in Shadow Generations gives him a lot of leeway when it comes to fighting people above his tier.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

No, you're right, I was thinking of MCU Ultron.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Whats stopping Ultron from outright absorbing the chaos emeralds like he did the Odin force from Odin?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

He has Sonic's Tier Jumping AD and on contact copying ability that is shown working on robots so yeah, I think he can close the gap, especially when given more than enough time thanks to Chaos Control working on Immeasurable Speed Super Sonic back in Heroes. Also Metal outright gaining resistances to abilities he copies as shown in Shadow Generations gives him a lot of leeway when it comes to fighting people above his tier.

Ehh. Idk man. Thats a pretty huge jump considering how big the Marvel Universe is compared to Sonics

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Whats stopping Ultron from outright absorbing the chaos emeralds like he did the Odin force from Odin?

Didn't he need a shit ton of prep time to do that? Even if he could, like I said, Metal gains resistances to the abilities he copies from his targets so it probably wouldn't even work and if it did then Metal just steals it right back or even worse just shuts off Ultron's potential Super Form using Chaos Spear like Shadow did.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I mean.... I guess that helps, but this is still something with a shown resistance to cyber fuckery so it's not like he'll get through it instantaneously,

I kinda arguing that It would, like Ultron can hack tech from Iron Man, who build stuff to have resistance to Ultron hacking. Even with Super Form resistances, Ultron should be able bypass without much problem.

Ultron's immediate go to move rather than throwing hands first which is what he usually does then he might be screwed.

Don't Ultron outscale tho, and that doesn't matter anyway?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ehh. Idk man. Thats a pretty huge jump considering how big the Marvel Universe is compared to Sonics

It's not as big as the jump he made from ******* 4-B in Neo Form to 1-C in Overlord via just his less advanced version of his copy ability back in Heroes and a bit of absorbed metal from one of Eggman's ships.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Imo this battle could just end up being a draw.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I kinda arguing that It would, like Ultron can hack tech from Iron Man, who build stuff to have resistance to Ultron hacking. Even with Super Form resistances, Ultron should be able bypass without much problem.

Don't Ultron outscale tho, and that doesn't matter anyway?

Like I said, Ultron needs to One-Shot Metal immediately out of the gate to prevent him from losing every effective hax and stat gap he's got over Metal, otherwise it'll be an infinite stalemate unless Metal can figure out a method of destroying Ultron's AI.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Imo this battle could just end up being a draw.

Then its an upscale cause CELL'S GONNA WIN BABYYYY!!!!! ALL IN ON GERO'S MASTERPIECE!!!!!

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Cell is beyond screwed lol. He doesnt even have any heros scaling to back him up lol

 

[Fezzih_007]

When we start discussing Ultron vs Metal Sonic, the only answer I want to give is If Cyber corruption would be enough to stop Ultron. That being no, It would't lol.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

When we start discussing Ultron vs Metal Sonic, the only answer I want to give is If Cyber corruption would be enough to stop Ultron. That being no, It would't lol.

After seeing that scan it probably wouldn't, but again that only really matters if Ultron doesn't start by throwing hands like is his usual MO. After that Metal just copies him and gains resistances to his powers so it wouldn't matter after that.

 

[ShakeResounding]

I would personally let it go since in all likelihood Ultron probably has some stuff far beyond what his profile currently has catalogued that Neo wouldn't be able to copy that demolishes him.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I would personally let it go since in all likelihood Ultron probably has some stuff far beyond what his profile currently has catalogued that Neo wouldn't be able to copy that demolishes him.

Most likely. I'm just saying that going off of the current stuff we got its more like a Metal W at best or a stalemate at worst.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

If Metal copied Hulk would he copy Bruce’s depression and trauma from parental abuse?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

If Metal copied Hulk would he copy Bruce’s depression and trauma from parental abuse?

If he copied Hulk's mind for whatever reason then potentially.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

If he copied Hulk's mind for whatever reason then potentially.

Okay, cause I thought when he copied he’d get the whole package

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Okay, cause I thought when he copied he’d get the whole package

The implication I got is that Eggman specifically made Metal copy his mind as opposed to anything else in that specific example.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Metal Sonic would copy Pym's brain only to get bipolar disorder and the urge to commit domestic abuse.

And yet Pym being a PoS abuser (In many stories Janet is honestly deserves better) still (somehow) isn't as bad as Deathstroke being way too "close" to underage teens.

Like why do comic book authors like the "kick the puppy" trope so much?

 

[Hunterzillas]

Doesn't Ultron scale several tiers above Metal Sonic? I was under the impression Ultron consistently scales to or above Marvel heralds. If so, how is Metal Sonic copying someone several infinities higher than him?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Doesn't Ultron scale several tiers above Metal Sonic? I was under the impression Ultron consistently scales to or above Marvel heralds. If so, how is Metal Sonic copying someone several infinities higher than him?

Tbf our Ultron profiles are very outdated. And while I think it's debatable that some of Ultron's bodies do surpass Metal Sonic, like Phalanx and some of his future incarnations, stuff like highfather Ultron definitely out scales anything Metal can do.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Like if we're going with full composites of bodies like Death Battle does, then Ultron definitely outclasses with his highest shit.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Doggo]

where's the 3rd one

 

[Tipper17]

* 4-B in Neo Form to 1-C in Overlord

not everyone buys 1-c sonic so don't see metal doing Anything other than getting rekt before he could do anything serious here

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Like if we're going with full composites of bodies like Death Battle does, then Ultron definitely outclasses with his highest shit.

Well yeah, that's obvious. Standard Ultron is infinitely more debatable though because he's not Outerversal.

 

[Da3ggman]

Base Ultron does his taxes while folding Metal and that should not be a controversial statement.